This is too funny... Conficker
Christian_<>< | 06/18/09
|

Especially...
wolf_z | 06/18/09
|
 
ON(nt)
NeoGeneration | 06/18/09
|
 
I know several who didn't get infected.
nucrash | 06/19/09
|

Oh look, the broken record is here.
James T. Kirk | 06/19/09
|

Moderators: Why are posts like that allowed to stand?
NonZealot | 06/21/09
|
 
This is zdnet, they let all sorts post
zkiwi | 06/21/09
|
  
Post about copy and paste and watch it get deleted
NonZealot | 06/21/09
|
   
ZDNet..
seal@... | 06/22/09
|
   
Or post anything exposing the inherent weakness of .NET
914four | 06/23/09
|
   
Conficker
bendib | 08/26/09
|
  
I would hope so!
bendib | 06/25/09
|
 
Couldn't agree more
jackbond | 06/23/09
|
  
Actually...
jecouch66@... | 07/08/09
|
Question re: crucial measure ...
dkawalec | 06/18/09
|

The former
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|
 
False Positives
DaveN_MVP | 06/18/09
|
  
Or my favorite....
JoeMama_z | 06/18/09
|
  
Nothing more entertaining than ...
msdead | 06/25/09
|
 
Thanks for the clarification ...
dkawalec | 06/18/09
|
  
pops into a few
RDrr | 06/19/09
|
  
It should pop into your head.
Cayble | 06/19/09
|
 
For-profit AV companies don't mind false positives
Speednet | 06/19/09
|
  
MS needs to get the word out ...
dkawalec | 06/19/09
|
   
Ms should ship it with 7, but
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
    
Apple users...
arminw | 06/20/09
|
  
re: For-profit AV companies don't mind false positives
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
   
I'd agree with that assessment...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
    
Re: eset
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
     
Eset makes Nod32, not a bad AV. nt
wolf_z | 06/19/09
|
   
Oh.. The irony of it all...
Wolfie2K3 | 06/19/09
|

Terminology
TBone2k | 06/19/09
|
 
Balancing act
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
  
Re; balancing act
notsofast | 06/19/09
|

False positive
monei011 | 06/21/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
duncanph | 06/18/09
|

Not officially
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|
 
Short of a hacked install
LiquidLearner | 06/18/09
|
  
That's incorrect
Speednet | 06/19/09
|
   
WHS Support
aemarques@... | 06/24/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
NStalnecker | 06/18/09
|

It's called Torrents
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
 
Like 7
djmik | 06/19/09
|
  
Not really...
shinji257 | 06/19/09
|
50% cpu utilisation?
Mam00th | 06/18/09
|

50% overall
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
 
Have you noticed load during signature updates?
BillDem | 06/18/09
|
  
Nope, no load
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
  
Are you surprised?
de-void | 06/18/09
|
 
Thanks for the info! (nt)
Mam00th | 06/18/09
|
 
AV should not...
arminw | 06/20/09
|

No, I'm looking at both cores
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|
 
Ed
Linux User 147560 | 06/18/09
|
  
Thanks
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|
   
overkill
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
  
Eggcellent
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
Would I trust MS with this?
BroGnorik | 06/18/09
|

Even when I was rabidly pro-MS, I still wouldn't trust their tools.
HypnoToad72 | 06/18/09
|
 
I would, and here's why
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
 
So true - this covers for piracy search
wellduh | 06/19/09
|
 
Logic - I've missed you so
dennis.london@... | 06/23/09
|

I would trust MS. Here's why.
andrej770 | 06/19/09
|
 
I trust ESET for anti-virus....
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
Agree with eSet NOD32!
MeezerW | 06/19/09
|
   
Oh yeah!...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
    
I agree!!!!!
bodeen657 | 06/24/09
|
 
You lost me at synergies
mietz | 06/19/09
|
  
Ha! Good one mietz...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|

Yes, I'll trust Morro, but as part of defense in depth
diane wilson | 06/19/09
|
 
Excellent list!
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
I agree - Excellent list
B.Beck | 06/19/09
|
 
Very nice...can't wait for the smart-ass answer..nt
USTechHead | 06/19/09
|
 
Prepared to go all MS?
RDrr | 06/19/09
|
  
Yes
mswift@... | 06/19/09
|
  
"are we done with 3rd parties?"
James T. Kirk | 06/19/09
|
   
EU is another animal
RDrr | 06/19/09
|
  
No - not on MS operating systems..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
no mixing security software is prudent
marks055@... | 06/20/09
|
 
I may copy and paste this on my blog
marks055@... | 06/19/09
|
 
corrections....
JoeMama_z | 06/19/09
|
 
I'll add to that...not just my opinion..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
Secunia
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
   
Thanks notsofast!...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
Insecurity
kc117mx | 06/22/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
TsarNikky | 06/18/09
|

not in that business
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|

What, like ...
de-void | 06/18/09
|
 
Isn't it a shame
trance2tec | 06/18/09
|
  
It's nothing to do with socialism.
de-void | 06/19/09
|
   
Selective Enforcement
Jeff Richardson | 06/19/09
|
    
Selective Enforcement
edcoyle | 06/22/09
|

well lets see here...
sir_cheats_alot@... | 06/19/09
|
 
UAC - not annoying to me but then...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
Can't Wait!
GoodThings2Life | 06/18/09
|
Can it be used on Server 2003?
DonRupertBitByte | 06/18/09
|
I like how lightweight it is
MissingMatter | 06/18/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
NCWeber | 06/18/09
|

Ahhh, but that's where they're being smart ...
de-void | 06/18/09
|
Save me from Automatic Updates
rseiler | 06/18/09
|

That was how Conficker was spread ...
de-void | 06/18/09
|
 
One tiny correction
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
would like to leave AU on but...
BobRichmond | 06/19/09
|
  
SP2 install is transactional - either it all works or it all rolls back
de-void | 06/19/09
|

Same engine as OneCare?
CarlS | 06/18/09
|
 
In fairness...
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|

You're wrong
Ed Bott | 06/18/09
|

WU
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
 
one care still picked up 92.6%
sir_cheats_alot@... | 06/19/09
|
  
The free one was too slow to stop...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
I dont agree 100%
jdbukis@... | 06/20/09
|
  
Why you should have a choice.
kb5898 | 06/20/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
Snagglegaster-19929872174467528481394836508114 | 06/18/09
|

AVG Are an Also Rans?
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
 
Popular yes, good - no!....(nt)
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
well
jdbukis@... | 06/20/09
|
 
Re: AVG
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
  
AVG v AVAST
Alki Jim | 06/20/09
|
   
Its pretty good
jdbukis@... | 06/20/09
|
It will be the malware writers dream
Alan Smithie | 06/19/09
|

Envy, the best form of appreciation...
transposeIT | 06/21/09
|
 
It's not envy, it's common sense
Alan Smithie | 06/22/09
|
Count me in
johnfenjackson@... | 06/19/09
|
The Only OS which requires a Firewall & Antivirus
tnsenthil | 06/19/09
|

One word
NStalnecker | 06/19/09
|
 
Anti-Trust
medezark@... | 06/19/09
|
 
ERm ... those are two words 1) Anti, 2) Trust (NT)
de-void | 06/19/09
|
  
ERM ... at the risk of nit-picking, Anti is not a word, it's a prefix (NT)
fnerkyboy | 06/27/09
|

the virus are in every OS
directory | 06/19/09
|

Given That there are now many OSX Virus
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
 
No there aren't
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
  
By that argument
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
   
Not really
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
  
Pwn2own?
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
 
Out of interest...
zkiwi | 06/19/09
|

That is not true, far from it.
MeMyselfAndI_z | 06/19/09
|
 
Misinformation Day again
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
  
Nope
rtk | 06/19/09
|
   
DUH!
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
    
Thats a lie
Crestview | 06/19/09
|
  
It has everything to do with market share
GuidingLight | 06/19/09
|
   
Yes, and...
Dauplat | 06/19/09
|
    
I forgot
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
   
Underdog syndrome
wellduh | 06/19/09
|
  
Someone simply clicked a link
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
   
Because...
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
    
It didnt require the admin password
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|
     
Nice try but no cigar
rag@... | 06/19/09
|
     
Vulnerability = admin rights...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
Mac OS & Linux = Security through obscurity
shinji257 | 06/19/09
|
  
You're WRONG.
notsofast | 06/19/09
|

Why does Linux come as a distribution CD?
wellduh | 06/19/09
|

Windows XP, Vista and 7 have a great firewall
lahondaite | 06/20/09
|
Mouldy pies with built in stomach medicine
whisperycat | 06/19/09
|

More Like
medezark@... | 06/19/09
|
 
Other pie manufacturers don't have to worry though
whisperycat | 06/19/09
|
  
FUD, simple as that.
magius | 06/19/09
|
  
Then there were the other pies...
psion@... | 06/19/09
|
  
MAJOR FAIL!
de-void | 06/19/09
|
  
HA! You FUNNY! ...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
   
HA! You FUNNY! ...
interested_amateur@... | 06/22/09
|

Just because your too stupid to run as standard user
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|

Bravo!
ejhonda | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
DrConnors | 06/19/09
|

MS OneCare scored among the highest...
shinji257 | 06/19/09
|
 
Hopefully Morrow is quicker on the draw...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
I feel that Microsoft's antivirus has some way to go
nilotpal_c | 06/19/09
|

Reasonable opinion
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
About AVG
nilotpal_c | 06/19/09
|
  
All but one of my clients has been..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|

Good assessment!...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
Isn't this what brought on the first Anti-Monopoly Trial?
nucrash | 06/19/09
|

Bundled?
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
For now.
nucrash | 06/19/09
|
  
IE was a download if I remember
Randalllind | 06/19/09
|
  
Then Why
bobiroc | 06/19/09
|
   
But look at the Alternatives
nucrash | 06/19/09
|
    
Is AV required to use Windows safely?
NonZealot | 06/19/09
|
     
You fail to make valid points.
nucrash | 06/19/09
|
     
How did I fail to make my points considering you agreed with me?
NonZealot | 06/19/09
|
     
I love your argument!!!
de-void | 06/19/09
|
     
MS might be safe(er)...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
    
That's PRECISELY what they're doing
de-void | 06/19/09
|
    
Although I agree with you on Silverlight...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
  
MSE isn't distributed via WU - just like Live Essentials isn't
de-void | 06/19/09
|
  
I disagree
notsofast | 06/19/09
|

Not bundling
bobiroc | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
rjcanada | 06/19/09
|

....
Badgered | 06/19/09
|
mft protection is better than no protection
po_134@... | 06/19/09
|

What's your definition of Computer Professional?
fnerkyboy | 06/27/09
|
Defender is garbage and I'm going to trust this?
Rude Union | 06/19/09
|

You use Windows? Really???/?
transposeIT | 07/01/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
barb28n@... | 06/19/09
|

Yes, but...
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
BGBeta | 06/19/09
|
I hope MS is reading this
jred | 06/19/09
|

Defender is not built for that purpose
Speednet | 06/19/09
|
Exploding car engine
davidr69 | 06/19/09
|

Indeed.
magallanes | 06/19/09
|
 
Yes
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
Not kernel mode rootkits...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
 
Not true
jdbukis@... | 06/23/09
|

Interesting comparison
armando@... | 06/19/09
|

Nobody Does
jdbukis@... | 06/19/09
|

Terrible analogy
notsofast | 06/19/09
|

They do
NStalnecker | 06/20/09
|
How recent will updates be?
wyllys@... | 06/19/09
|

Glad you figured out what I meant
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|

NIS 2009 is doing pretty well on my x64
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
 
Norton 2006
notsofast | 06/19/09
|
  
i agree...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
RE: Would I use Microsoft AV software
orcmid | 06/19/09
|
NO NOTIFICATIONS
rjohn05 | 06/19/09
|

that would be optional
RDrr | 06/19/09
|

When you're downloading a file...
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
When you're downloading a file...
bodeen657 | 06/24/09
|

You need notification...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|

No News is Good News, Eh?
fnerkyboy | 06/27/09
|
Isn't it about time?
Silex | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
windozefreak | 06/19/09
|
When will the anti-competitive law suits start???
umlguy@... | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
rakebackkid | 06/19/09
|

Exactly what I was thinking..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
We (brailian people) have credit cards. The problem is the money and price.
andrebrait | 06/19/09
|
I like Avira now
marks055@... | 06/19/09
|

The RC or Norton? Just wondering! ...(nt)
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
age of updates
maxwellbgmail | 06/19/09
|

Fixed, thanks (nt)
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
I'm running Security Essentials right now... excellent
Speednet | 06/19/09
|

Good post, thanks!...(nt)
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
And I can't figure out how people get infected
andrebrait | 06/19/09
|

You are lying
trance2tec | 06/19/09
|

Viruses Can Hide
sab@... | 06/19/09
|

I had the same experience, a few weeks ago..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
marc57 | 06/19/09
|
Aren't Pirates The Worst Offenders?
StPatrick56 | 06/19/09
|
Using the Microsoft Product as a backup to AVG Free might be good.
rgeiken@... | 06/19/09
|

Bad idea
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|

Try using MBAM...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
Antivirus? More like antitrust!
Ben Pasmore | 06/19/09
|

Huh?
Ed Bott | 06/19/09
|
 
Patent violations will bring the litigation
freecode_99 | 06/19/09
|
  
So why have they not been sued for OneCare? Hmmm?
Qbt | 06/19/09
|
Thanks Ed
marc57 | 06/19/09
|
"Morro" is "Die" in portuguese.
brascool@... | 06/19/09
|

Guardian
CESSNA SKYLARK PILOT | 06/22/09
|
Cleaning up their own mess?
sazmazm | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
mcgoelzr@... | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
raicaalex@... | 06/19/09
|

One problem with AV-comparatives...
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
It makes sense to me, I hate Symantec
RedM3 | 06/19/09
|

couldn't aggree more
gnesterenko | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
sysdev@... | 06/19/09
|

suggestion
gnesterenko | 06/19/09
|

I may not have the years, but..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
MSE vs OneCare
HoJo4Jesus | 06/19/09
|

OneCare is going away..
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
gabrielbear@... | 06/19/09
|
MS should stay in the OS/App area, not AV
dtroyerSMU | 06/19/09
|
Live OnceCare was a 'dog' the last time ...
mwagner@... | 06/19/09
|
If it wasn't for the EU...
Qbt | 06/19/09
|
auto update...GOOD...Server Support?
mgolden | 06/19/09
|
Free AV software
mietz | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
Olddog1 | 06/19/09
|
Want change to Microsoft Update
Jim Johnson | 06/19/09
|
Believe it when I see it
jdyl | 06/19/09
|
Microsoft AV should be better
vedanuzal | 06/19/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
Felix Derzhinsky | 06/19/09
|
Hope thaft Microsoft shows more dedication than with MSAV
mkaz@... | 06/19/09
|
Notes on 3rd Party AV's
preachjohn | 06/20/09
|
WU on Automatic? No Way! No Way!
preachjohn | 06/20/09
|

Not typical though
jdbukis@... | 06/20/09
|
NOD32 or NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigE123 | 06/20/09
|

Please computing world wake up!
tracy anne | 06/20/09
|
 
Hurray for Tracey Anne
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/23/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
kb5898 | 06/20/09
|

A waste of time
tracy anne | 06/20/09
|
 
Not so
Yeartenn | 06/24/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
kb5898 | 06/20/09
|

I don't have to
tracy anne | 06/20/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
kb5898 | 06/20/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
tracy anne | 06/20/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
bklynmike1010@... | 06/21/09
|

Yes they do
Bob.Roy | 06/21/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
bob_j_hart@... | 06/21/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
kgg321 | 06/21/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
westea49 | 06/21/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
bhargavaapoorv@... | 06/21/09
|
Anyone old enough to remember round one?
devlin_X | 06/22/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
steveparamore@... | 06/22/09
|
Why now?
karihouse | 06/22/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
jjk308 | 06/22/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
edcoyle | 06/22/09
|

Yeah, and my Apple II was slow!
Ed Bott | 06/23/09
|
 
Reputation is everything
devlin_X | 06/24/09
|
  
Marketing is everything.
rtk | 06/24/09
|
   
There is plenty of evidence. Just go into any electronics retail store.
devlin_X | 06/26/09
|
    
Consider yourself on break.
rtk | 06/26/09
|
     
Explain then why XP's demise was extended
devlin_X | 06/27/09
|
     
Same reason Win98's "demise" was extended.
rtk | 06/27/09
|
Updated same as Defender?
Bill Ward | 06/23/09
|

Its a seperate update
jdbukis@... | 06/23/09
|
Microsoft should be the best at defending their own OS.
softwareFlunky | 06/23/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
Wildfire365@... | 06/23/09
|
I was once a Windows Geek
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/23/09
|

Repeating the lie doesn't make it true
NonZealot | 06/23/09
|
 
Microsoft Won't Fix Windows 7 UAC
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
  
Probably because, it's not broken.
rtk | 06/24/09
|
   
It has to do with a 'defective by design', virus-prone O/S
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
    
LOL
rtk | 06/24/09
|
     
Myth
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
    
Thanks for the laugh!
NonZealot | 06/24/09
|
     
More 'Nervous' laughter from the 'in the know' Windows clique
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
  
You are only telling half the story
NonZealot | 06/24/09
|
   
You don't acquire root privilege by accessing sudo
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
If I don't have to enter my Live ID...
antilles_5@... | 06/23/09
|

To sign up for the beta
Ed Bott | 06/24/09
|
RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
imshashank | 06/24/09
|

I agree the new Norton AV 2009 is very good
marks055@... | 06/24/09
|
How good can an AV tool be coming from
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|

Let us know when
rtk | 06/24/09
|
 
Then you need to open your eyes
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
  
Conficker
rtk | 06/24/09
|
   
any cost associated isn't MS's fault
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
    
Yes, of course
rtk | 06/24/09
|
     
The difference
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
     
Re: The difference.
rtk | 06/24/09
|

I agree with your goals but not your methods
NonZealot | 06/24/09
|
 
You lost your argument and now resort to ad hominem attacks
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
  
There's no ad hominem attack there
rtk | 06/24/09
|
   
Ad Hominem; Now Non sequitors don't work either
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
|
    
No
rtk | 06/24/09
|
     
Utter nonsense
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
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Re: Utter nonsense
rtk | 06/24/09
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Verbatim
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/24/09
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re; Verbatim
rtk | 06/24/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
msdead | 06/25/09
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How good is Macroscrew's free antivirus software???
bendib | 06/25/09
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Foregone conclusion
dogbreath1 | 06/27/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
ccpljat | 06/29/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
kluvender@... | 07/08/09
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Good to know
katygrace | 07/13/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
merledeneen | 07/16/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
merledeneen | 07/16/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
cpedley | 07/18/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
cpedley | 07/18/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
parneet384 | 09/18/09
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RE: How good is Microsoft's free antivirus software?
xantius | 10/22/09
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