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You are a GENIUS! happy
Actually going through a process called "testing and evaluation" - with an actual product no less! Genius!! wink

p.s. more should try it.
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You are a GENIUS! happy  bdlang@... | 04/20/09
No, he is a M$ SLAVE!  urbandk | 04/21/09
don't make yourself look stupid  jk_10 | 04/22/09
Agree!  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Minimal Windows  chromeronin | 04/27/09
Shareware style limit  Alan Smithie | 04/20/09
Not to mention Linux spin doctors  James A Bailey | 04/20/09
Yep that too  Alan Smithie | 04/20/09
Agree  crazlunatic | 04/20/09
Which would be anti-competitive and illegal.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Why?  de-void | 04/21/09
Maybe  windozefreak | 04/22/09
What's wrong with this picture is..  mike@... | 04/24/09
I wouldn't worry about Linux spin doctors  dseward | 04/21/09
hardware=os?  over2sd | 04/21/09
Artificial Limits Not Necessary  tem62 | 04/21/09
"Precious little Linux software..."  CassidyJames | 04/21/09
How about commercial software?  dseward | 04/22/09
HUH?  tech_ed@... | 04/22/09
You are either a liar or an idiot  tracy anne | 04/23/09
Who's an idiot? Ed?  mike@... | 04/24/09
Dependency hell? Not lately.  over2sd | 04/23/09
Windows Netbook vs XP  chromeronin | 04/27/09
Pay now or pay later  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
It is all about the OEMs  mikefarinha | 04/20/09
Here  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
My point exactly.  mikefarinha | 04/20/09
"At the request"  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Microsoft's customers are largely OEM's, not you and I  de-void | 04/21/09
Yeah, because customers always request  akulkis | 04/21/09
You have proof to the contrary?  mikefarinha | 04/21/09
So MS has a new business model for unwitting consumers.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Again, this is something you should take up with your OEM  de-void | 04/21/09
Trry this  windozefreak | 04/22/09
"It is all about the OEMs"  readwryt@... | 04/21/09
Dunno  de-void | 04/21/09
Specific hardware:  notsofast | 04/21/09
And if you bought a notebook/desktop running Starter Edition ...  de-void | 04/21/09
I agree  dseward | 04/22/09
Dev Time  chromeronin | 04/27/09
Pay now JUST TO pay again later. That's the proprietary mantra.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Wow!  mike@... | 04/24/09
M$ Cash Grab  cafehunk | 04/21/09
Wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Hackerbait  chromeronin | 04/27/09
You put too much stock into Win7SE  mikefarinha | 04/22/09
You Should read my above post  windozefreak | 04/22/09
So people are supposed to keep quiet?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
No one wants you to keep quiet  dseward | 04/22/09
But none are pre-installed  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
If you don't like Windows, that fine. But...  mike@... | 04/24/09
I don't like Winbloze and that's fine...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/25/09
anticonsumer  tcsenter | 04/22/09
Brilliant  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Carfully aimed  chromeronin | 04/27/09
"unscrupulous retail salesmen"  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Really?  de-void | 04/21/09
Choice  windozefreak | 04/22/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  James A Bailey | 04/20/09
Limits of testing  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
Limits of Testing  Eleutherios | 04/21/09
Perhaps  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
for $15 I'd try OSX  mswift@... | 04/21/09
As a Mac user  Mectron | 04/21/09
I'm not Ed. But  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Crippleed Netbook  chromeronin | 04/27/09
One widget = one application? Not too likely...  csjewell | 04/20/09
Who knows? That'll be MS's call, not yours.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  spruce | 04/20/09
It's what I do  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
Yup  Tim Patterson | 04/20/09
Re: Yup  Col Mustard | 04/20/09
Maybe I'll try  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
You'll end up in tears Ed.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Sigh  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Do it!  CassidyJames | 04/21/09
Uh huh...  akulkis | 04/21/09
None  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Libel...  Average-IT-Guy | 04/21/09
Reply  Eleutherios | 04/21/09
Boy, do I miss usenet...  clfitz | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  Col Mustard | 04/20/09
Anytime Upgrade done right  LiquidLearner | 04/20/09
But will they charge...  msalzberg | 04/21/09
Frankly, it's not worth it.  CobraA1 | 04/20/09
You can't get Win7 Home Basic in the US or Europe  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
Forgive me if I don't confuse anecdotes with statistics.  CobraA1 | 04/20/09
And your statistics are where?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
well I'm not really impressed that your not really impressed... ha!  shadfurman | 04/20/09
A MACBOT here...  t5j1sr | 04/21/09
Perfect example of the targeted user  Frankmjr | 04/21/09
You CAN get Home Basic in Europe  molumen | 04/21/09
Vista Home Basic vs. Windows 7 Basic  dseward | 04/21/09
will a legitimate Basic run in the US??  pikeman666 | 05/12/09
Should be no problem  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
I have to agree  Lerianis | 04/21/09
Appalling Insensitivity  aliahyp | 04/21/09
I'll Tell You What...  tem62 | 04/21/09
How  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Anyone who tries...  fairportfan | 04/21/09
What I have open now  chromeronin | 04/27/09
Program limit is just plain foolish.  ye | 04/20/09
Then go tell your OEM of choice  de-void | 04/20/09
My understanding is they requested a lower cost version.  ye | 04/20/09
So, then...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
You Weren't Asking Me, But  DannyO_0x98 | 04/20/09
What Are The Odds...  tem62 | 04/21/09
That's an easy question.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Ed walked straight into that one  Alan Smithie | 04/21/09
Gosh, you're so clever.  de-void | 04/21/09
De-void, keep your hair on  Alan Smithie | 04/22/09
I don't have an answer to the question.  ye | 04/21/09
My belief is.....  linux for me | 04/21/09
Does it cost more to limit to three  websquad | 04/21/09
you weren't talking to me but  Alan Burns | 04/21/09
Microsoft has to play like everyone else ...  MisterMiester | 04/21/09
MS did that.  de-void | 04/21/09
Removed features?  mdsock@... | 04/21/09
OEMs did not ask for the limitation  dseward | 04/22/09
What is the advantage over XP?  F. Mcsimmons | 04/21/09
I've tried Win7 and it seems better than XP  billfranke@... | 04/25/09
Features to remove for lower cost  chromeronin | 04/27/09
a guess....  Badgered | 04/22/09
Mr. Ye  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Indeed, and yet...  DannyO_0x98 | 04/20/09
With the shoe lace  windozefreak | 04/22/09
I think its fantastic!  shadfurman | 04/20/09
Commenter has even less $$$ than brains.  akulkis | 04/21/09
But It's His CHOICE (NT)  windozefreak | 04/22/09
I agree with you here, its just a "buy me twice" contrick  deaf_e_kate | 04/21/09
Development isn't free. Deployment is.  LeoD | 04/21/09
There's no con involved  de-void | 04/21/09
The mobile industry is going towards simpler tarrifs.  Amelioration | 04/21/09
Program limit is not foolish...  Wendel | 04/21/09
Program limit is just plain foolish.  molumen | 04/21/09
Exactly right  Lerianis | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  techfix | 04/20/09
user login and remote connections ?  bksgs1 | 04/20/09
No limits  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/20/09
Any color you want, as long as it's black  davidleecpowell@... | 04/20/09
your phylosophy of economics is flawed...  shadfurman | 04/20/09
Mine Honor  SirWeej | 04/21/09
That Does Not Compute  tem62 | 04/21/09
use lotus symphony ...  bksgs1 | 04/20/09
Windows 7 SE - PERFECT for virtualization  Roger Ramjet | 04/20/09
I wonder if the licence allows it  LeoD | 04/21/09
Probably not  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
VM...  PedroTabs | 04/21/09
Still need licensing  Frankmjr | 04/21/09
I'd be curious to see if Wubi would work...  johnf76@... | 04/22/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  djwilde | 04/21/09
Comfortable?  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
Then  windozefreak | 04/22/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  RTTECH82 | 04/21/09
@Ed: It's not accurate to say that "Program installers run ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Windows Installer  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
"oddball third-party installer"  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Also ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
VMWare Tools is a special beast  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Woah there ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
You're right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
thx ...  n0neXn0ne | 04/22/09
No beating required  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
3 app limit shouldn't affect installer  cliffdunaway | 04/26/09
Who's running MS???  MSBassSinger | 04/21/09
Screw you Microsoft, I'm a programmer  possibilistic | 04/21/09
Uh, dude?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
He didn't say he was forced.  nizuse | 04/21/09
Ed's right  Oreamnos_americanus | 04/21/09
Leave someone the freedom  nizuse | 04/21/09
Too Much Java Today  tem62 | 04/21/09
I'm not Microsoft But,  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Very cool  quasilou | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  Billybob115 | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  nessrapp | 04/21/09
How does it know what to count?  davidr69 | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  Juanne | 04/21/09
English  chaiguy1337 | 04/21/09
English  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
Yes, but...  fairportfan | 04/21/09
Thank you, this has been very helpful. (nt)  caspianhiro | 04/21/09
It's sad.  Mitch 74 | 04/21/09
Not that sad.  drobinow | 04/21/09
Don't be sad  dseward | 04/21/09
DVD Player.  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
Yep!  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
What is Pidgin? N/T  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Pidgin Info:  over2sd | 04/23/09
This is just marketing and preventing a lawsuit  rarsa | 04/21/09
Maybe An EU Version Nt  windozefreak | 04/22/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  dseward | 04/21/09
Most are missing the picture ...  et3 | 04/21/09
Great points, but you missed a real bonus  dseward | 04/21/09
You make a good point ...  et3 | 04/21/09
Now THAT I would agree with, EXCEPT  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/21/09
No, you're missing the point  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/21/09
You probably will not buy win7SE  windozefreak | 04/22/09
I won't buy it with that limitaion  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
...  Badgered | 04/22/09
Wonder away all you want  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
Ok, I will...  Badgered | 04/23/09
...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/24/09
I'm afraid you weren't even paying attention  dseward | 04/22/09
Oh yes I was  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
Fair argument  dseward | 04/22/09
I think it's valid  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
No, you weren't  tcsenter | 04/23/09
Yes, I was...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
Stop the ill conceived drama - Starter Edition is not available in the US!  Wyer | 04/21/09
Wrong, wrong, wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  tem62 | 04/21/09
Odd...  DNSB | 04/21/09
Specifics  tem62 | 04/21/09
Who uses multiple open apps?  DonG43 | 04/21/09
Me.  de-void | 04/21/09
Ditto  tem62 | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  rasputins_dog | 04/21/09
Not true  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Did I miss something?  dseward | 04/21/09
you missed something  rasputins_dog | 04/21/09
Still missing  dseward | 04/21/09
Careful now ...  de-void | 04/21/09
He missed Everything  windozefreak | 04/22/09
Spot On  tem62 | 04/21/09
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !  RachelFaith | 04/21/09
And will cost ?  Oreamnos_americanus | 04/21/09
Can't wait for the $250 Apple netbook  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  gwconnery@... | 04/21/09
Thanks for the pointer  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
I agree, Ed, You do very good work  windozefreak | 04/22/09
It works!  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Clarification please...  Badgered | 04/21/09
Additional information  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Ahh, gotcha... thanks. (NT)  Badgered | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
Vista\Win7 doesn't allow  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
Ed, What kind of System did you test this on?  padapa | 04/21/09
"An ultraportable Sony notebook"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/21/09
Sony (Dual Core) Notebook  padapa | 04/21/09
ANOTHER, reason to go Linux...  mikifinaz1@... | 04/21/09
Geez, you dont SUPPOSE  Crestview | 04/21/09
[Withdrawn]  tem62 | 04/21/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  dseward | 04/21/09
Ha ha! You are totally right. (nt)  Tesla82 | 04/21/09
M$ Brainwashed Edition  emenau | 04/21/09
It's a fanboy...it's a troll...it's...  jzhaohd | 04/21/09
3 Apps Today; 0 Tomorrow  trentreviso | 04/21/09
re: 3 Apps Today; 0 Tomorrow  n0neXn0ne | 04/22/09
We Heard you, Yea, Yea, Yea  windozefreak | 04/22/09
So Windows 7 is not ready  GOTBO | 04/22/09
Wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
!!! apple or linux fanboys, go away please!  jk_10 | 04/22/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  pgit | 04/22/09
3 is a bit too tight  Narg | 04/22/09
re:3 is a bit too tight  Badgered | 04/22/09
It is just a small form factor laptop.  TripleII | 04/22/09
It's the usage pattern, not just the hardware  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/23/09
Something else, how do you spin this.  TripleII | 04/22/09
Lawyers working on that now  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/23/09
Point Taken, still a very fine line.  TripleII | 04/23/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  DonBurnett | 04/23/09
Clarification  DonBurnett | 04/23/09
It's up to the OEMs, Don  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/23/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  surjagain | 04/23/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  athaki | 04/24/09
No need to Live with the limits of Windows 7  tracy anne | 04/24/09
Windows 7 Starter = Demo, Make Windows 7 Netbook Edition  ngtwolf | 04/25/09
How does performance compare?  AdamzP | 04/27/09
Who else actually tried it.  fiendishlyclever | 05/19/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  chrcoluk | 06/17/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  korayem | 08/06/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  zzzxtreme | 10/20/09
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition  umair.arshad | 11/25/09
HEY!! SOMEONE HELP ME!!!  AYUNSYAH | 11/28/09

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