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Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible
but won't be.

When the sales results are in at the end of 2009, the iPod will remain triumphant. There is NOTHING that Microsoft can do to save the Zune. It does not matter that it might be or is better. No one seriously considers buying a Zune.
Posted by: davebarnes   Posted on: 11/21/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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zune software/firmware  g_keramidas@... | 11/21/08
delete, no, pre-ration social space...  mjlaverty@... | 11/21/08
same with ipod  larry@... | 11/21/08
Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  davebarnes | 11/21/08
"No one seriously considers buying a Zune"?  mike@... | 11/21/08
Hear, hear!  GuyAlanDye | 11/21/08
Zune Interface  jnmandel@... | 11/25/08
They have one already  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/25/08
Zune Docks  TallTomD | 01/26/09
WMP & MCE?  bottimj@... | 11/22/08
Yeah, OK  Jim4Prez | 11/24/08
Dude, seriously  jahcriado | 11/24/08
someone is a little bitter.  sbass@... | 11/24/08
The iPod MUST work with Windows  tikigawd | 11/24/08
Apple Playing Nice?  TallTomD | 01/26/09
I agree  tikigawd | 04/24/09
Not quite true...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/25/08
Actually  Badgered | 11/21/08
Zune Good  BlackDiamond | 11/21/08
It's an excellent system  tikigawd | 11/24/08
Speak for Yourself  soonerproud | 11/21/08
My wife has the creative Zen  Pliny the Elder | 11/21/08
This kind of bashing..  silent.griffin | 11/21/08
He's right: Zune to iPod  mlindl | 11/22/08
I have a Zune...  NormalC | 11/24/08
Looks interesting (but)  nizuse | 11/21/08
SOME consumers don't trust MS ...  de-void | 11/21/08
Here is the opportunity to not be a sheep  Roque Mocan | 11/21/08
I agree...  storm14k | 11/21/08
The point you're missing...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
Absolutely spoot on Ed.  de-void | 11/21/08
Right on, Ed!  GuyAlanDye | 11/21/08
Let me make sure I get this straight...  storm14k | 11/21/08
| |- much  SMFX_ | 11/21/08
You'll just have to accept  deaf_e_kate | 11/22/08
Wow...  LiquidLearner | 11/22/08
I have said for years  nfhiggs@... | 11/24/08
Fantastic.  Bozzer | 11/22/08
Getting it straight...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/25/08
Ed, Your math can't be sustained  steven.g.kahn@... | 11/24/08
Maybe it's just me,  notsofast | 11/24/08
Subscription is a bad thing  TedKraan | 11/26/08
Emusic.com is great too.  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/21/08
I'm a longtime emusic subscriber  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
At least you have a choice  A.Sinic | 11/24/08
WOW JUST LIKE WINDOWS!!  itanalyst2@... | 11/22/08
a sheep talking  Yax_to_the_Max | 11/24/08
MS forces me to resist the Zune Pass  NonZealot | 11/21/08
MS lost my trust on this  larry@... | 11/21/08
90% of Zune music is DRM free MP3  NonZealot | 11/21/08
That's a tad convoluted,  DannyO_0x98 | 11/21/08
Unused credits do not roll over  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
Me too  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/21/08
What's NOT to like about the subscription model?  de-void | 11/21/08
Not everyone listens all the time.  mikefarinha | 11/21/08
If you go months at a time...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
You have to download entire albums?  storm14k | 11/21/08
You can download individual traks if you want  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
You pay for XM and can't understand subscription music?  NonZealot | 11/22/08
One problem...  storm14k | 11/22/08
Ah yes, I'm not an XM subscriber  NonZealot | 11/22/08
How is PlaysForSure more onerous than FairPlay?  NonZealot | 11/21/08
Excellent point  Pliny the Elder | 11/21/08
Renting/leasing is a mugs game whether it  deaf_e_kate | 11/22/08
Actually that depends  nfhiggs@... | 11/24/08
You CAN listen to your P4S music on your Zune!  de-void | 11/21/08
That makes absolutely no sense  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/25/08
It makes sense to those able to read  NonZealot | 11/25/08
It makes sense if you can write better  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/26/08
PlaysForSure devices still around  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/27/08
That's not the point, Ed...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/28/08
But you didn't have to buy a Zune  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/28/08
You shouldn't have to change to a different ecosystem, Ed...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/29/08
Read your comment again...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/30/08
No flaw, Ed...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/30/08
It didn't work  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 12/01/08
Microsoft made no secret  soonerproud | 11/21/08
Zune Software  cfischer83@... | 11/21/08
Never, ever seen this  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
it can happen here and there  coffeeshark | 11/21/08
Thanks!  cfischer83@... | 11/21/08
1-877-GET-ZUNE  de-void | 11/21/08
MP3 Pirating Doesn't Pay  TallTomD | 01/26/09
teenagers love it.  LakeviewJason | 11/21/08
Competition is good for everybody  ThePrairiePrankster | 11/21/08
The music industry was never involved in this one  BALTHOR | 11/21/08
Yes, they do (but not much)  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/21/08
The artists rarely get much from any downloads  notsofast | 11/24/08
Of course they get paid for it  Qbt | 11/21/08
The labels rip off the artists.  notsofast | 11/24/08
not owning an mp3 player  isulzer | 11/21/08
I don't get it (or, I already got it)  Qbt | 11/21/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  JB76109 | 11/21/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  PMUP | 11/21/08
Typical  Qbt | 11/21/08
Zune software is great when does it work inUK?  groovepoint@... | 11/22/08
Maybe it is a better experience...  betelgeuse68 | 11/22/08
A Question: are the extra downloads non-DRM?  terry flores | 11/22/08
They are whatever format the label allows  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/22/08
Strip the DRM out of them  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 11/25/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  Stujoe | 11/22/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  Stujoe | 11/22/08
If you have a subscription...  logicearth@... | 11/22/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  Stujoe | 11/22/08
WARNING ED BOTT MICROSOFT ADVERT  martin23 | 11/22/08
When did Ed  soonerproud | 11/22/08
some truth to this but consider . . .  eggmanbubbagee@... | 11/22/08
Are you the joker???  martin23 | 11/22/08
As I Said  soonerproud | 11/22/08
I could write a bio of Mother Teresa...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/22/08
So modest  martin23 | 11/22/08
And yet...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/22/08
Oh Ed  martin23 | 11/23/08
Opinion  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/23/08
Martin23 is right  nizuse | 11/23/08
Report or opinion  martin23 | 11/23/08
"News and blogs"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/24/08
Hmmm...  nfhiggs@... | 11/24/08
Hmm indeed  martin23 | 11/25/08
Here's a really irresistible deal  dave.leigh@... | 11/22/08
You can count  martin23 | 11/22/08
You are  soonerproud | 11/22/08
Your view  martin23 | 11/23/08
Objective reviews???  nfhiggs@... | 11/24/08
Hey, Where's The Social?  itanalyst2@... | 11/22/08
Between being a Microsoft product...  Henry Miller | 11/22/08
but a large fraction will love it  eggmanbubbagee@... | 11/22/08
Did you bother reading the blog post?  soonerproud | 11/22/08
Wow, so I can  BigDaddio | 11/23/08
Awesome, just picked up a new Zune a couple of days ago for $80.  john4857 | 11/22/08
Here's a REALLY irresistible deal  dave.leigh@... | 11/23/08
They're not mutually exclusive  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/23/08
No, they're not...  dave.leigh@... | 11/23/08
Rice isn't completely wrong.  notsofast | 11/24/08
I'm not saying he is...  dave.leigh@... | 11/25/08
International usage  custserv@... | 11/23/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  Balmerism | 11/23/08
There's no point if you don't own a Zune  boxmonkey | 11/23/08
Sorry, not good enough  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/24/08
There are lots of ways to get free music but only a few legal ways  We7Steve | 11/24/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  abaraskas | 11/24/08
HELP!!  boblinde@... | 11/24/08
Use the Zune software  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/24/08
Who Want's It ??  rob70949 | 11/24/08
And the iPod is compatible to most services? (NT)  logicearth@... | 11/24/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  cyberlyt | 11/24/08
copy protection? never again! monthly fees? no thank you  MayAbandonWindows | 11/24/08
3 PC limit says something is wrong with the format  MayAbandonWindows | 11/24/08
Sigh...you're not getting it  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/24/08
Yeah right  Alan Smithie | 11/25/08
bang on...  LoungeFlyX | 11/25/08
DRM on "purchased" music kills it  BillDem | 11/24/08
Zune has lots of DRM-free music  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 11/24/08
90% of the Music is DRM free MP3 format. (NT)  soonerproud | 11/24/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  kingpin2009 | 11/24/08
Zune Player?  BeerTapper | 11/24/08
I'll stick with Rhapsody  fawlty70 | 11/24/08
AND THE WHOLE WORLD SAID WHAT'S ZUNE  ben.rattigan | 11/24/08
Magnatune!  dieseltaylor | 11/25/08
The world is crazy!  michael@... | 11/25/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  TheWerewolf | 11/25/08
I agree...  LoungeFlyX | 11/25/08
RE: Why the new Zune Pass should be irresistible  vilppuu@... | 11/27/08

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