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Why must we try to compare apples to oranges?
Two different OSes. Two different ways of managing memory.

Period.
Posted by: dcoaster   Posted on: 10/24/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Why must we try to compare apples to oranges?  dcoaster | 10/24/08
And yet...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/24/08
Actually ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 10/24/08
Vista needs more software running  Mikael_z | 10/24/08
No...  jamesrayg | 10/25/08
indeed  eggmanbubbagee@... | 10/25/08
Security by obscurity . . .  brian ansorge | 10/27/08
heh  isulzer | 10/25/08
Uh, no...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
am i?  isulzer | 10/25/08
Questions  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
and shimming is..  isulzer | 10/25/08
So, isulzer...  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
that ive used...  isulzer | 10/25/08
You are aware...  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
wrong again  isulzer | 10/25/08
@isulzer, Windows 95 is DOS.  logic_earth | 10/25/08
not quite  isulzer | 10/25/08
*facepalm*  Sleeper Service | 10/26/08
Shimming  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/26/08
semantics again?  isulzer | 10/26/08
isulzer, you are wrong, because you said shimming is like a wrapper  bmerc | 10/27/08
Step back a bit...  DCMann | 10/27/08
Actually....  awasson@... | 10/28/08
Not true  rparker009 | 12/12/08
Don't get me wrong.  dcoaster | 10/24/08
Which means  LiquidLearner | 10/24/08
new to the intertubes?  CarlitosLx | 10/30/08
Why so sluggish then?  GoPower | 10/24/08
Define sluggish  LiquidLearner | 10/24/08
Don't Forget Running Aero Makes Everything Better! (NT)  logic_earth | 10/24/08
"?"...  Cayble | 10/24/08
Performance...  logic_earth | 10/25/08
yep. but.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Shared mem  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
Not here  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/24/08
Wierd experience  Necrolin | 10/25/08
Imporved Hardware Drivers Maybe? (NT)  logic_earth | 10/25/08
drivers or crapware  eggmanbubbagee@... | 10/25/08
How many people...  Necrolin | 10/27/08
Most likely...  LiquidLearner | 10/25/08
Um, not exactly...  eMJayy | 10/25/08
Actually it can't...  914four | 10/30/08
Sluggish? Since when?  Cayble | 10/24/08
because you're using a pirated copy of Vista  qmlscycrajg | 10/25/08
Sluggish?  notsofast | 10/27/08
Not sluggish here with 2GB  CrashPad | 10/28/08
Apple slugs  mswift@... | 11/19/08
Funny  rparker009 | 12/12/08
b .bu..but, everybody knows Vista is sluggish  eggmanbubbagee@... | 10/24/08
The problem with your logic....  dcoaster | 10/24/08
Very True Dcoaster --Here's Why.  gypkap@... | 10/27/08
Vista and OS X battery life  Asiafish | 02/13/09
I regularly use Vista on my Asus EEE PC 1000H (1Gb RAM) with Aero and  Zukuzu | 10/24/08
Pay no Attention....  daMan25 | 10/24/08
True, but then again...  GuidingLight | 10/24/08
Iphone  magallanes | 10/27/08
If HP runs Vista with the VIA CPU  marks055@... | 10/24/08
The ony false allegation is yours.  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
What are you?  Kromaethius | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  Linux User 147560 | 10/24/08
Don't forget to add Compiz there.  Zukuzu | 10/24/08
I actually have...  ShadowGIATL | 10/24/08
Why not test it yourself?  ye | 10/25/08
Easy answer...  Linux User 147560 | 10/25/08
You were asking for Linux numbers, not OS X or Windows.  ye | 10/26/08
Ummm  Linux User 147560 | 10/26/08
I opted for a Windows solution because...  ye | 10/27/08
He didn't need to reboot either...  cornpie | 10/27/08
Oh and no  Linux User 147560 | 10/26/08
Exactly. You can get Linux numbers all day long.  ye | 10/27/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 10/27/08
@Linux User 147560: How do you arrive at this conclusion?  ye | 10/27/08
You take lessons from Fox News?  Linux User 147560 | 10/27/08
@Linux User 147560: You didn't answer the question.  ye | 10/27/08
Simple  Linux User 147560 | 10/27/08
Windows XP SP3 results:  ye | 10/26/08
I've got a Macbook that is sluggish  cfischer83@... | 10/24/08
At least make it believable!  ye | 10/25/08
Apple's and PC's suffer the same problems....  Narg | 10/27/08
Can anyone say why Vista is such a power hog?  Jeremy W | 10/24/08
It seems to be...  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
erm. different problem there.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Yes? And?  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
Click on the link and read it.  isulzer | 10/25/08
By new you mean...  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
on a desktop?  isulzer | 10/26/08
Which the article...  Sleeper Service | 10/27/08
Actually...  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  atari_z | 10/25/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  atari_z | 10/25/08
Put another GIG of RAM in that Macbook & use Parallels to run Windows  GiveMeGizmos | 10/25/08
No, use Boot Camp instead...  Ben_E | 10/25/08
Might try that later  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
which seems to be the correct choice.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Oh I see...  Ben_E | 10/25/08
RAM is RAM  surfasb | 10/27/08
Funny you should say that...  DCMann | 10/27/08
I think I see what you mean...  Ben_E | 10/27/08
Your Vista needs that fat graphics card though  smellcoffee | 10/25/08
Thats False  logic_earth | 10/25/08
Not really accurate  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
Bells and whistles  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
I call FUD!  Wolfie2K3 | 10/28/08
um ed....  isulzer | 10/25/08
Cache not paged.  logic_earth | 10/25/08
Sorry, you're just plain wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
well  isulzer | 10/25/08
RAM != wrost power usage.  logic_earth | 10/25/08
id assume that..  isulzer | 10/25/08
You really need to go to school  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
ah.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Oh and to top it all.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Is that because Macs...  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
i guess you mean..  isulzer | 10/25/08
oh nvm.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Actually  LiquidLearner | 10/25/08
ok.  isulzer | 10/25/08
VM vs Physical mem  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
nop. no such degrees  isulzer | 10/26/08
Your still misguided  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
You misread what i say again.  isulzer | 10/26/08
LOL  theoxygenthief | 10/26/08
Thanks.. and actually..  ShadowGIATL | 11/14/08
Daemons  de-void | 10/27/08
Vista spreads the OS load much, much better  progon | 10/25/08
keep in mind  isulzer | 10/25/08
Interested..  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
consider.  isulzer | 10/26/08
Well...  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
its as simple as...  isulzer | 10/26/08
What? You made the assertion you have to support it.  ye | 10/26/08
i pointed out some  isulzer | 10/26/08
@isulzer: Irrelevant.  ye | 10/27/08
nop.  isulzer | 10/27/08
@isulzer: Not for the part where I jumped in.  ye | 10/27/08
The memory allotments are the same. But...  ashdude | 10/25/08
The Great and Powerful Oz...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/25/08
Sorry... process management.  ashdude | 10/25/08
actually  isulzer | 10/25/08
He's saying OS X and Linux are better than Vista  LiquidLearner | 10/25/08
Sarcasm  theoxygenthief | 10/26/08
Forget Vista - its irredeemable! 7 is the new hope.  graywz | 10/25/08
Theres a good marketing strategy.  isulzer | 10/25/08
Given that sales have risen...  Sleeper Service | 10/25/08
k here we go...  isulzer | 10/26/08
Mac cannot bite big momory?  no nonsense | 10/26/08
Mummery?  isulzer | 10/26/08
Or murmury!  no nonsense | 10/26/08
Different ways of allocating ram  theoxygenthief | 10/26/08
I would compare  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
It would defy the point if you could  theoxygenthief | 10/26/08
How about you post results for your assertion?  ye | 10/26/08
Not my job, unlike Ed  theoxygenthief | 10/26/08
yes well.  isulzer | 10/26/08
Yes, it is your job. If you make an assertion then it's...  ye | 10/27/08
Boring  theoxygenthief | 10/27/08
Irony  Sleeper Service | 10/27/08
See below  theoxygenthief | 10/28/08
Reading comprehension is fine here.  ye | 10/27/08
Remember, Ye is the same guy who says...  bmerc | 10/27/08
No it's not  theoxygenthief | 10/28/08
Clicks and time  mlindl | 10/26/08
Zero.  Sleeper Service | 10/26/08
Vista still blows... Why is it doing forced reboots?  T1Oracle | 10/26/08
erm.  isulzer | 10/26/08
Old habits die hard.  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
Forced?  ShadowGIATL | 10/26/08
That's the problem, a modular OS is nothing like a car engine  T1Oracle | 10/26/08
When you turn off your computer?  isulzer | 10/26/08
I didn't know OSX did that.  T1Oracle | 10/26/08
Aint that the truth.  isulzer | 10/26/08
You mean install updates at shutdown? Windows been able to since XP SP2  logicearth@... | 10/26/08
if you look at it in a twisted way  isulzer | 10/27/08
No, he doesn't mean that.  bmerc | 10/27/08
{deleted}  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
re:isulzer and "bm"  USTechHead | 10/27/08
Do people read anymore?  T1Oracle | 10/27/08
@T1Oracle  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
I shouldn't have to turn off auto-update for it to work right  T1Oracle | 10/28/08
Both XP and Vista do the same thing...nt  USTechHead | 10/27/08
Rubbish!  de-void | 10/28/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  drizztshawn@... | 10/26/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  notlehs | 10/27/08
People do not understand RAM usage.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/08
Re:  chaiguy1337 | 10/27/08
Sorry  rtk | 10/27/08
Agreed...4 gig never a memory problem...  USTechHead | 10/27/08
The problem is not that people don't understand RAM usage  bmerc | 10/27/08
"Don't waste time doing stupid crap"...  USTechHead | 10/27/08
Are you kidding??  chaiguy1337 | 10/27/08
easy answer  rtk | 10/27/08
You Disabled DWM? Are you Stupid?  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  chaiguy1337 | 10/27/08
Hmm true except in Vista all memory is still usable, so you are wrong (NT)  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
Free memory is a bad thing...  Narg | 10/27/08
yes ... but wait.... no!.  magallanes | 10/27/08
If the OS has more memory used up, then it will be faster...  bmerc | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  worldscolide | 10/27/08
yawn, inconclusive test  gmureddu@... | 10/27/08
Why don't you try this test ...  MisterMiester | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  Kelvekar | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  shadfurman | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  shadfurman | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  shadfurman | 10/27/08
btw Ed Bott  shadfurman | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista  fetes | 10/27/08
I did the same when I upgraded to Vista, intresting... (NT)  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
I did the same when I upgraded to Vista, intresting...  fetes | 10/27/08
But how can you run Vista without an antivirus?  bolscher@... | 10/27/08
Why would you need anti virus with all the popup warnings vista has  fetes | 10/27/08
I'm curious...  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
Good luck with that...nt  USTechHead | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  leigh@... | 10/27/08
The OS does matter.  gypkap@... | 10/27/08
"...usual M$ vs nix nonsense..." amen brother - nt  USTechHead | 10/27/08
Unscientific and Useless  BanjoPaterson | 10/27/08
Seems rather a simplistic analysis  mdsock@... | 10/27/08
Go to stores like Worst Purchase* or Silicon Town**...  HypnoToad | 10/27/08
Again, clueless . . .  brian ansorge | 10/27/08
its about usability  ricstorms@... | 10/27/08
Dear Mr. Ed Bott, 1 simple question  jshewsbury@... | 10/27/08
I know I'm not Ed  whitekw | 10/27/08
Gah...does a Mac not have an enter key? (NT_  logicearth@... | 10/27/08
Yup...  awasson@... | 10/28/08
Thanks whitekw  jshewsbury@... | 10/28/08
Nope - I told you they were innovative!!  whitekw | 10/27/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  alxnsc@... | 10/28/08
Some Facts  logicearth@... | 10/28/08
Ed Bott specially optimized Vista vs OSX?  BillDem | 10/28/08
Dang... Wrong spot (NT)  awasson@... | 10/28/08
RE: OS X versus Vista  Arist?teles Ben?cio | 10/29/08
FREE RAM?  Ryan Rediske | 10/29/08
Answered it already, but in case you missed it...  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
RE: OS X versus Vista, RAM division  duhovnik | 10/30/08
How much did MS pay to develop Vista?  technology@... | 10/30/08
Wrong numbers.  soopahman | 10/31/08
Wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/31/08

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