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Linux is OK because it is free.
But I would not pay for it just so I could spend the extra time required for me to administer it.

I run 8 Linux servers that run great until they hiccup. Then trouble shooting is a nightmare. I have not been able to move to it as a desktop because my apps do not come ported for Linux.

Linux has so far to go to be main stream that I just don't see it happening.
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This only proves that people are creatures of habit, and they have years  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
It is not that they are creatures of habit,  GuidingLight | 10/06/08
Still, it has nothing to do with how easy Linux is to use or how it works.  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
You're right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
It's the apps too!  wolf_z | 10/06/08
Wine is not the solution to any of that.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/08
Much like Blu-ray "support" (read: hacks) in Linux....  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
Yes, MS will continue, at least for the short term to use FUD about IP to  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
@Joe_Raby - No and No ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
"against the Windows EULA, so it's not legal"  bmerc | 10/07/08
My personal bet is that. . . .  JLHenry | 10/06/08
Another issue is that people can not upgrade older hardware, and the  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Let this dead horse die already!  ye | 10/06/08
My reply to ye is below, sorry  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Microsoft would have done themsleves ...  mwagner@... | 10/07/08
I can't tell you how much...  sullivanjc | 10/07/08
Some of the changes make sense.. Some not..  Wolfie2K3 | 10/07/08
With that attitude  Alan Smithie | 10/07/08
Model T's...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/07/08
No compelling reason to switch.  Stan57 | 10/06/08
Linux = escape from malware + virus  Don Collins | 10/07/08
Re: Linux = escape from malware + virus  ahumeniy | 10/07/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
@Linux User: CanSecWest Conference  Wolfie2K3 | 10/07/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
@Linux User: CanSecWest Conference  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/08/08
Here's the citation  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/08/08
Means nothing, Ed...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/08/08
You must not be using Ubuntu then  sullivanjc | 10/07/08
Not necessarily true ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
You must not be using Ubuntu then, either  Fevrin | 10/09/08
Clean and secure here too  Stan57 | 10/07/08
Linux is NOT secure by any means.  Narg | 10/07/08
False Information  skizzletoe | 10/07/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
Linux is NOT secure by any means.  Thempleton | 10/07/08
Uninformed  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Escape from crapware...?  Wolfie2K3 | 10/07/08
If it doesn't work right  Doug_Alder | 10/10/08
Exactly! It's not "getting used to" Linux...  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
Again, Windows is not easier to use than Linux, it is just that people have  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Windows = Joe Sixpack  Don Collins | 10/07/08
I *like* McDonalds...  sullivanjc | 10/07/08
I can watch TV episodes  p0figster | 10/07/08
Demonstrating another of Linux's problems...  Churlish | 10/07/08
McLies as usual from a Linux hater  Don Collins | 10/07/08
Far out !  sjbinaz | 10/07/08
Yup  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Juvenile Posturing  sjbinaz | 10/09/08
He  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Sorry...but he was right.  storm14k | 10/06/08
This is a "sys admin'?  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Nope. And here's one of Linux's weaknesses:  ye | 10/07/08
When is diversity a bad thing?  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
When you're a software developer trying to write...  ye | 10/07/08
ye, developing cross-target code just isn't that hard to do!  B.O.F.H. | 10/07/08
@ye - That's why we have standards ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
@MisterMiester: Talk about intellectual dishonesty.  ye | 10/07/08
Actually, Ye is right to a large extent  nilotpal_c | 10/07/08
ye, I'm a developer and I live for the diversity  awasson@... | 10/07/08
@awasson: You may like the diversity.  ye | 10/07/08
ye is mostly right here..  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Not really a problem....  storm14k | 10/07/08
The problem is people have differening ideas as to what...  ye | 10/07/08
@ye - Well ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
@MisterMiester: And you support the dictator when...  ye | 10/07/08
@ye - Sure I support ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
@MisterMiester: You're a hypocrite  ye | 10/07/08
@ye - Are you so high strung that ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Message has been deleted.  n0neXn0ne | 10/07/08
But thats the thing...  storm14k | 10/07/08
Requirements  farmers@... | 10/07/08
What's the definition of "people"  DB_z | 10/07/08
"Good" is in the eye of the beholder  mwagner@... | 10/07/08
Die Grinder.  Win3.1 | 10/07/08
Linux for personal empowerment  Alganon | 10/08/08
Creatures of habit or lack ambition?  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 10/07/08
Forget Windows - Macs  bklooste | 10/23/08
Linux is OK because it is free.  bjbrock | 10/06/08
Actually, all of the biggest web companies all use Linux because it is so  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
From Computerworld.com  kuilboer | 10/06/08
From netcraft.com  storm14k | 10/06/08
Well...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
Well ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
RE: Well...  rikasa | 10/07/08
LOL - nt  USTechHead | 10/07/08
Linux can have the pornography market......  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Can it have the $40+ billion in global revenues from said market too?  B.O.F.H. | 10/07/08
What are you saying?  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
I am in favor of business and pushing the technology.  B.O.F.H. | 10/07/08
did you read what i replied to?  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
xuniL_z, are you unemployed, uneducated or just stupid?  B.O.F.H. | 10/07/08
Oh come now Ba$tard Operator From Hell  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
@xunil_z  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Isn't the answer obvious, Ted?  xuniL_z | 10/09/08
Hold that thought..  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Oh dude...  awasson@... | 10/07/08
You didn't read the OP either  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Problem with Statistics...  Narg | 10/07/08
Problem with Comment...  awasson@... | 10/07/08
Yes, but...  gypkap@... | 10/07/08
Not so...  deefburger | 10/07/08
Actually, Yes so, They are not running Linux  GuidingLight | 10/07/08
Wrong Spot  kuilboer | 10/06/08
Actually ................  kuilboer | 10/06/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 10/06/08
re: Actually ................  rikasa | 10/07/08
RE: Then trouble shooting is a nightmare...  qljsystems@... | 10/07/08
Except  rtk | 10/07/08
Not what he meant  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Re: Not what he meant  rtk | 10/09/08
Correct  TedKraan | 10/09/08
That has allways been the problem  GuidingLight | 10/06/08
Weakness in demonstration  machinchose | 10/06/08
I find it amazing  alaniane@... | 10/07/08
Interesting timing  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/08
Yes, VERY good point. If you have somebody to do the install and help them  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
exactly.  tracy anne | 10/07/08
Well...  Ben_E | 10/06/08
I do not think that very many are as enamored as you are with the ribbon  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Donnie, Donnie, Donnie  tonymcs@... | 10/06/08
Let me guess wink  TedKraan | 10/07/08
I have to agree...we have HEAVY finance users  USTechHead | 10/07/08
What he said, but opposite...  jasonp@... | 10/07/08
head to OpenOffice.org  Alganon | 10/08/08
Professionals want tools that work, not to solve geek puzzles......  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Interesting  GuidingLight | 10/07/08
I don't teach them to use it...  Ben_E | 10/07/08
Moving goalposts  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/08
Your thanks are appreciated...  Ben_E | 10/07/08
Tell that to an unsophisticated computer user  tracy anne | 10/07/08
Still, new is not always better...  cgdams | 10/07/08
Well, the Ribbon  TedKraan | 10/07/08
mso 2007 is hard, but let's teach everyone to use a different interface or  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
You aren't going to change my opinion  TedKraan | 10/08/08
Ted, please, i was merely juxtaposing the two and showing......  xuniL_z | 10/08/08
Okay  TedKraan | 10/09/08
"couldn't find printing at first"  xuniL_z | 10/09/08
Interesting antecdote.  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Stat not very helpful.  enduser_z | 10/06/08
Right if XP is 1 return per million and Linux is 4 returns per million,  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
So you think only 1 in a mil XP machines have problems?  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Did not say that, was just giving two extremes. But, it WOULD be  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
"But next year will be our year."  LBiege | 10/06/08
No they don't  deaf_e_kate | 10/07/08
Careful Ed,  Cardinal_Bill | 10/06/08
Read it again  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
Ahhh...I see...  Cardinal_Bill | 10/06/08
You're kidding, right?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
The sad thing is he's not.  ye | 10/07/08
Originally yes,  Cardinal_Bill | 10/07/08
Don't let the door hit you...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/07/08
mainstream == comfort zone  deaf_e_kate | 10/07/08
Again Ed is pointing out...  USTechHead | 10/07/08
errr.  deaf_e_kate | 10/07/08
Ed Bott Out Of The Mainstream  chessmen | 10/07/08
Not on desktops.  Sleeper Service | 10/07/08
EEEPC is Better Example.  will hill | 10/06/08
Great Statistics  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Just curious...  Ben_E | 10/06/08
You can fix the bugs in the kernel, DUH! *NT*  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
I don't think he said that. Read his post again.  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
... since you asked  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/08
SO chip design and climate analysis is the selling point of Linux? *NT*  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
You asked for examples  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/08
Half right  beoz | 10/06/08
Interesting...  Ben_E | 10/07/08
List of some of these things ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
I don't have the link  TedKraan | 10/07/08
Graphical Shells on Windows ....  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
And for everyday, non-techy users? (nt)  Ben_E | 10/07/08
That would be ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Wrong questions....  storm14k | 10/07/08
Maybe older EEE PC is....  Zukuzu | 10/06/08
So you not only limited yourself  tonymcs@... | 10/06/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  Loverock Davidson | 10/06/08
amazing  whooliebacon | 10/06/08
No it doesn't (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 10/06/08
You've used PCLOS extensively, right?  Don Collins | 10/07/08
No, no need to  Loverock Davidson | 10/07/08
RE: No, no need to  k1nj0 | 10/07/08
You give him/her too much credit!  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
It doesn't matter  Loverock Davidson | 10/07/08
@Loverock  TedKraan | 10/10/08
@loverock davidson  TDMBlanchard | 10/07/08
@You  Loverock Davidson | 10/07/08
RE@loverock davidson  TDMBlanchard | 10/07/08
Are you bordering on incompetence?  B.O.F.H. | 10/07/08
One more add for the list ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Yeah!  TedKraan | 10/07/08
You got that right! (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 10/07/08
Loverock Davidson your way to vague  TDMBlanchard | 10/07/08
I'll give up Linux right now  ticthak@... | 10/07/08
Linux on netbooks here to stay  Alganon | 10/08/08
If they can't figure out Ubuntu, they ain't gonna have a clue what you are  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Sorry, was a reply to ye above.  DonnieBoy | 10/06/08
Nothing wrong with staying on XP.  ye | 10/06/08
Every one does not need web server?  joemartn | 10/06/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet  kuilboer | 10/06/08
Double standards again Ed  martin23 | 10/06/08
I Agree  chessmen | 10/07/08
Depends On Windows 7  itanalyst2@... | 10/06/08
The general feeling is Windows 7 will be similar to Vista.  ye | 10/06/08
Not really  timiteh | 10/07/08
The assumption is the hardware in question will be...  ye | 10/07/08
and also most are sold on new  sjbinaz | 10/08/08
Even sold on new doesn't mean that these new PC will work properly  timiteh | 10/08/08
Ah the stuff of ZDNet gold  Richard Flude | 10/06/08
Heterogeneity of the population  Pantalaimon | 10/06/08
You and Adrian copy off the same test paper?  linux for me | 10/06/08
Reality crushes dreams  tonymcs@... | 10/06/08
Ouch....nt  USTechHead | 10/07/08
What reality?  alaniane@... | 10/09/08
What needs to change  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
Linux ready to replace Windows? No Way!  jpr75_z | 10/06/08
Have you used Linux lately.  b.bob | 10/07/08
I have, but..  kouzen | 10/07/08
A system that constantly freezes and reboots...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/07/08
Yes, and with Linux  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
You've just proved that  deaf_e_kate | 10/08/08
Windows is good if its price is cheaper  cruggeld | 10/06/08
babble on  sjbinaz | 10/08/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  rhabkirk@... | 10/06/08
Android coming soon to Netbooks  Fred_NYC | 10/06/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  wgrimes | 10/06/08
Linux replace Windows in 430.000 voting machines in Brazil  Fred_NYC | 10/06/08
Dedicated application is hardly an ecosystem  Patanjali | 10/06/08
Open sauce  ticthak@... | 10/07/08
Just  TedKraan | 10/09/08
Anyone can fly a single-engine, fixed-gear, Cessna...  Henry Miller | 10/06/08
You may be right,  cgdams | 10/07/08
Safety pumpkin, safety.  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
Yet  TedKraan | 10/10/08
Not sure about the title - but I like the example...nt  USTechHead | 10/07/08
Let me say this again  b.bob | 10/07/08
I don't think he was trashing it  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet?€?  Fred_NYC | 10/06/08
Simple answer for the returns ....  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Linux is a great choice for technically sophisticated users  tracy anne | 10/06/08
"technically sophisticated"  b.bob | 10/07/08
I guess  tracy anne | 10/07/08
I wonder about the Eee then.  TripleII | 10/06/08
They are rating the machine, not the OS.....read the reviews....  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Sorry that's incorrect ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Since it's a Robin "I hate MS" Harris blog ...it says the opposite....  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
It's more proof ..  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
You didnt' read them.  TripleII | 10/07/08
Or better yet?  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Ok, now you say i'm lying. Thanks man. Mistermeister is no better.  xuniL_z | 10/08/08
Statistics...  jasonp@... | 10/06/08
lol  jimk_z | 10/07/08
marketing ?  trenchsol | 10/07/08
well, talking about unbearables...  royalstream | 10/07/08
Ed, are you in denial too (and I don't mean Egypt)?  D. T. Schmitz | 10/07/08
NEVER NEVER ......  joemartn | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  larry@... | 10/07/08
Ed, to be fair, MSI is shifting some of its own faults  nilotpal_c | 10/07/08
A Windows guy writing about Linux  Chad_z | 10/07/08
Obvious how little Ed has used Linux  Don Collins | 10/07/08
If al I wanted to do was surf the web...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/07/08
Ed, You Are Just Plain Silly  chessmen | 10/07/08
how true.  crabbypup | 10/07/08
Cheap, cheap shot there Ed  bmerc | 10/07/08
Read the post I was replying to  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/07/08
Ed, context was a weak response.  deaf_e_kate | 10/08/08
Ed, that reply was sign of a ignorant windows fanboy  deaf_e_kate | 10/08/08
That depends of the machine and of the user needs  timiteh | 10/07/08
Stop with the Vista RTM comments already!  ye | 10/07/08
Hear Hear!!  *nixFan | 10/07/08
Kezako ?????  timiteh | 10/07/08
John McLoverock - desperate mudslinger  Don Collins | 10/07/08
Very shallow analysis and logic  daboochmeister | 10/07/08
Link not working, try this  daboochmeister | 10/07/08
Trailing comma  daengbo | 10/07/08
Thx, and i edited the original  daboochmeister | 10/07/08
What that says...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/07/08
Why the bigotry  martin23 | 10/08/08
Not necessarily wrong distro ...  daboochmeister | 10/09/08
Ding-Ding-Ding - here they come....nt  USTechHead | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  ramnet@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  jw@... | 10/07/08
Tung is patronizing Linux users.  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet  rsmart@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet  artmanjr | 10/07/08
"Returned" is not "traded in"  Rambo Tribble | 10/07/08
This just proves people are basically stupid.  GOTBO | 10/07/08
It "proves" nothing. In fact it could be an indicator of how people.....  xuniL_z | 10/07/08
Yes stupidity is an indication as to.......  GOTBO | 10/07/08
Your analagy doesn't hold up  marks055@... | 10/07/08
The word is 'analogy' and given that  GOTBO | 10/08/08
One thing Linux can't do that Windows Does easily  patrykg | 10/07/08
Just Bait!  Axe_to_Grind | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  CexCells | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  Eelel | 10/07/08
Urgent news!!! Linux is not Windows!!! (fortunately, I must add) happy  luisc9 | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  luisc9 | 10/07/08
Linux is actually easier than Windows  ash_sids | 10/07/08
Relearning to tie my shoelaces  Goodbye WinWorld | 10/07/08
Been saying this for years.  acetw | 10/07/08
Get a CLUE  Crogon | 10/08/08
Re: Get a clue  Dem0072 | 10/09/08
The report is spot on  judgesinel@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  theenglishteacher | 10/07/08
Let's see real numbers.  heres_johnny | 10/07/08
RE:Let's see real numbers.  k1nj0 | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  ja4509 | 10/07/08
That first quote is so true!  CreepinJesus | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  tstephensoncom | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  rnojonson@... | 10/07/08
Is It Really Linux That Is Causing Returns, Or Just The Cheap Laptop  chessmen | 10/07/08
Agreed  softwareFlunky | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet????????????  will hill | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  will hill | 10/07/08
Linux will never be ready  doug4321@... | 10/07/08
ignoring all the factually incorrect garbage, this part amused me...  bmerc | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  bmerc | 10/07/08
Linux - The Desktop for the Best of Us...  egads@... | 10/07/08
True, sort of.  gypkap@... | 10/07/08
What they did with all the returns?  softwareFlunky | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  Dan0man | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  bmerc | 10/07/08
Habit? Not really! Just give me something better!  royalstream | 10/07/08
The learning curve...  gypkap@... | 10/07/08
Applications...  vekaz@... | 10/07/08
Linux is at least half a decade away from being ready for the mainstream...  Skullet | 10/07/08
You need to have a chat with my little old ladies  tracy anne | 10/07/08
...Little old ladies...  Dan0man | 10/08/08
The problem is...  PantherDave | 10/07/08
Watch out for Linux Viruses  alpinesoft | 10/07/08
Well... let's see...  Linux User 147560 | 10/07/08
The old and ancient popularity fallacy  tracy anne | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet because they are not the same.  skizzletoe | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  shadowfyr55@... | 10/07/08
Users who buy Sub $400 computers are the target audience for Linux  junktl@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  eisen6 | 10/07/08
Nor EVER???  Crestview | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  raena@... | 10/07/08
As It Is; Not Ever  Kromaethius | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  paul5082 | 10/07/08
Asus reports virus loaded into Eee Box PCs  n0neXn0ne | 10/07/08
So with Windows ...  MisterMiester | 10/07/08
Irony is, this isn't the first time this has happened!  Linux User 147560 | 10/08/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  mkpelletier@... | 10/07/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  rweiler@... | 10/07/08
The point of the article?  sjbinaz | 10/07/08
Linux isn't ready yet and have ZERO examples of WHY.  T1Oracle | 10/08/08
a nothing article by a Microsoft shill  james.faction | 10/08/08
get real  billw1234 | 10/08/08
Ygeseah, let's compare apples and oran  Crogon | 10/09/08
In a nutshell...  killerb255@... | 10/08/08
Mac (Fighter)  killerb255@... | 10/08/08
Linux (Mage)  killerb255@... | 10/08/08
Windows (Bard)  killerb255@... | 10/08/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  ethyrdude | 10/08/08
Forget Linux for a moment! What about OS-X?  solyom@... | 10/09/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Yes!!!  lordshipmayhem | 10/09/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  Daveyk01 | 10/09/08
Bottbusters 1  martin23 | 10/09/08
When someone develops a way for Windows Apps to be run on Linux...  XweAponX | 10/09/08
@ye  thx-1138_@... | 10/09/08
Barking up the wrong tree  Crogon | 10/09/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? WELL CLEARLY FOR SOME PEOPLE....  ac567@... | 10/10/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  jfreedle2@... | 10/10/08
Context, context...  Mitch 74 | 10/16/08
RE: Linux ready to replace Windows? Not yet???  scottux | 03/16/09

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