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But Ed did you Manage to get the Subliminal messages out of your mind.  tomam | 09/10/08
The driver is not neccessary  soonerproud | 09/10/08
Did you miss the part  frgough | 09/11/08
The fact is  soonerproud | 09/11/08
Then why don't you just uninstall it through control panel  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
No such option  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
soonerproud just said there was  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
Look at the picture  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
So you're saying he's wrong then (nt)  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
@ b8375629@...  soonerproud | 09/11/08
Ditto....  FranC. | 09/11/08
If you only use Quicktime  tikigawd | 09/11/08
Well...  techboy_z | 09/11/08
Right  eb276 | 09/11/08
"A step back towards Linux"?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
You can install a service but not driver without the hardware being present  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Once again, Stevey, you don't know what you're talking about  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
OK Ed, give me a link to the $240 driver signing site  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Already did that  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
OK please please post it again now.  stevey_d | 09/11/08
It's on the Winqual site.  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
Links for you  cybrsage13@... | 09/12/08
No iPod, no driver right?  0Hboy | 09/11/08
You still get  soonerproud | 09/11/08
True true  0Hboy | 09/12/08
Consent and disclosure  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/10/08
Absolutely Right  Harry Bardal | 09/10/08
And do not overlook  GuidingLight | 09/11/08
What a surprise...  James T. Kirk | 09/11/08
Not really.  frgough | 09/11/08
Except...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
Well  James T. Kirk | 09/11/08
re: well  Badgered | 09/11/08
lol  Yax_to_the_Max | 09/12/08
Bad bet  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
apart from massive built in windows media player & the DRM infrastructure  stevey_d | 09/11/08
stevey raises some good questions, Ed...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
Answered them elsewhere in this thread  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
Hmmm, Microsoft is to blame for fouled drivers?  genefitz1976 | 09/11/08
Blame  Harry Bardal | 09/11/08
Yes, I'd go for a microsoft branded PC  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Getting ANYTHING to work...  arminw | 09/11/08
I thought...  McDave | 09/11/08
I bought my iPod because I liked iTunes  mtgarden | 09/11/08
iPod management  Norcross | 09/11/08
iTunes Sucks...Can I Get an AMEN!  mtomazic | 09/11/08
AMEN brother! - & Quicktime is even worse!  USTechHead | 09/11/08
Go here for rolling back iTunes  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
A-freaking-MEN  tikigawd | 09/11/08
Preach it Brother! AMEN!  Bacon 3000 | 09/12/08
Funny, iTunes is the reason I got rid of my iPod.  Scubajrr | 09/11/08
Ouch!  tikigawd | 09/11/08
so TRUE  snakecharmernyc@... | 09/12/08
iTunes is a reason NOT to get an iPod...nt  USTechHead | 09/11/08
Don't buy a wonderful new iPhone then  dan@... | 09/11/08
BB user and that's all I need...  USTechHead | 09/11/08
There's ml_pod  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
I use xplay  officerbill | 09/16/08
if it's a driver and WHQL signed it, then they were supposed to test it  stevey_d | 09/11/08
You need to read a little more  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
Looks like NonZealot called it.  ye | 09/10/08
A prime example of why Windows "rots"  ye | 09/10/08
Only problem with that is...  storm14k | 09/11/08
Then you're not taking care of them.  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
It's a myth for some.  Letophoro | 09/11/08
Incontrovertible?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
Well managed != normal  Letophoro | 09/11/08
No it does not. At least not that anyone has demonstrated.  ye | 09/11/08
Re: No it does not.  Letophoro | 09/11/08
@Letophoro: 30% Fragmentation?  ye | 09/11/08
Very true  voska1 | 09/11/08
@voska1: I'm going to need more than that.  ye | 09/11/08
Just guess on the Fragmentation  voska1 | 09/11/08
It works that way for me  voska1 | 09/11/08
Oh yes there is.  rjcarlson49 | 09/11/08
No, there is not.  ye | 09/11/08
I disagree  beoz | 09/11/08
And since this article is about Vista...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
No agreement or clearance.  Letophoro | 09/11/08
Vista doesn't have OS rot.  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
It's a myth for all. Windows does not rot.  ye | 09/11/08
If only uninstalls were always clean  CobraA1 | 09/11/08
It would be nice. Not sure why they can't be clean.  ye | 09/11/08
Not sure either  CobraA1 | 09/11/08
@CobraA1: Really? I'll have to look into that.  ye | 09/11/08
Windows rot can also be caused...  wolf_z | 09/11/08
Not in my experience  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
What is the default cache size in XP these days?  ye | 09/11/08
50MB  rtk | 09/11/08
Depends on you HD size  voska1 | 09/11/08
It's a total myth  dch48 | 09/12/08
I don't believe you. (nt)  ye | 09/11/08
I don't believe you either  eb276 | 09/11/08
For sure!  voska1 | 09/11/08
Yeah like WGA, ye...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/11/08
Do you mean Apple Rots?  debig@... | 09/12/08
iTunes ain't done 'til Windows won't run (nt)  voyager529 | 09/10/08
I've said it before and I'll say it again ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 09/10/08
Is it that they can't write decent code? Or is it they can't test...  ye | 09/10/08
what crap are you talking  code_Warrior | 09/10/08
I'm talking about one of the strengths of the PC:  ye | 09/10/08
That's true  eMJayy | 09/10/08
Installing Windows server search crashed our win NT server 2003 today  stevey_d | 09/11/08
I infer that...  Yax_to_the_Max | 09/12/08
I'm not an IT guy at all. I wasn't near the server, but  stevey_d | 09/12/08
Or...  cornpie | 09/10/08
Doubtful. (nt)  ye | 09/10/08
I don't think they are that stupid...nt  USTechHead | 09/11/08
apple cant write decent code.  code_Warrior | 09/10/08
sure, and you know because you write better code?  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Apple can't write decent code for the Windows platform.  g_keramidas@... | 09/10/08
Absolutely!!!!  Kromaethius | 09/10/08
You mean GEAR Software...  McDave | 09/11/08
No...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
BINGO! - we have a winner...nt  USTechHead | 09/11/08
This is apple playing dirty  code_Warrior | 09/10/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  spec07 | 09/10/08
Damn good post  TheTruthGiver | 09/10/08
Just like the iPhone - They introduced the issues  jordan_gilman@... | 09/11/08
can you be more wrong!!!!!  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Stevey, you're confused  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
Yes I'm confused  stevey_d | 09/11/08
I'm tired of doing your work for you  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
.......  stevey_d | 09/11/08
links were already posted  Yax_to_the_Max | 09/12/08
you're assuming an awful lot about me here  stevey_d | 09/12/08
Another reason why I refuse to use Apple software  kcredden2 | 09/10/08
Case of SRM  rjcarlson49 | 09/11/08
avoid any apple product on your windows box, period  crislevin | 09/10/08
You're right...  McDave | 09/11/08
That good deign...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
i guess you think windows users are stupid enough to exchange....  crislevin | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  Lerianis | 09/10/08
It won't happen.  TripleII | 09/10/08
Maybe six months ago...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  jsteklc603@... | 09/10/08
This is a good story and..  silent.griffin | 09/10/08
Has Apple acknowledged this anywhere?  TripleII | 09/10/08
thank you for this post  zero7404 | 09/10/08
They seldom acknowledge their mistakes  tech_walker | 09/10/08
I Use Winamp  itanalyst2@... | 09/10/08
Yeah, me too. And for those who would like...  cgdams | 09/11/08
Nice Post Ed  tech_walker | 09/10/08
Another Application Crashes Windows?  CraigClark | 09/10/08
Because large manufacturers who make commercials  beoz | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  fuego96@... | 09/10/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  fuego96@... | 09/10/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  woot@... | 09/11/08
Don't doubt, but do disagree  cy_starkman@... | 09/11/08
Custom installation  dprozzo | 09/11/08
I concurr...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  techfix | 09/11/08
Get a Mac!  David Blomstrom | 09/11/08
Sorry?  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
Yep, that's the ticket!  Badgered | 09/11/08
LOL - a good question.  USTechHead | 09/11/08
I think not  psion@... | 09/11/08
- That's a good joke - your funny....  USTechHead | 09/11/08
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst2@... | 09/11/08
Irony.  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
Actually Nope - as usual wrong again - just me...sorry to disappoint...  USTechHead | 09/11/08
This explains a game complaining  CobraA1 | 09/11/08
title doesn't mention Windows-only  scott1329 | 09/11/08
title doesn't mention Windows-only  scott1329 | 09/11/08
Ed Bott's Microsoft Report  beoz | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  joetron2030 | 09/11/08
Call In The States Attorney  jordan_gilman@... | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  kakman1@... | 09/11/08
Mac user's too brainwashed to care  jscott418 | 09/11/08
What if Microsoft Office Crashed Apple?  jordan_gilman@... | 09/11/08
great point  tech_walker | 09/11/08
Ho-boy!  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
News Flash: MS Office DOES crash on Macs!  8wintermute8 | 09/13/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  ceo@... | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  1031982 | 09/11/08
I have recently switched back to Windows  zygoatinottawa | 09/11/08
So who do we complain to?  Stan57 | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  TheVinesKid | 09/11/08
APPLE STINKS!  chaz15 | 09/11/08
Now there is an idea!  Snarfiorix | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  goose58431 | 09/11/08
RE: BSOD  john_gillespie@... | 09/11/08
I'll stick to my Zune...  Narg | 09/11/08
Not so sneaky  itguy08 | 09/11/08
BSOD Question  rpmyers1 | 09/11/08
"iT8" my computer! Apple hungry for marketshares!  C Lo | 09/11/08
Correction  rpmyers1 | 09/11/08
Like? - Give us some examples  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
drivers in Vista not supposed to be able to run at kernel level so how BSOD  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Well okay then...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
say I want to install iTunes  stevey_d | 09/11/08
More people have Vista  rtk | 09/11/08
They work with what they've got.  stevey_d | 09/12/08
hopefully they learned a valuable lesson.  rtk | 09/13/08
wait a minute  stevey_d | 09/14/08
re: wait a minute  rtk | 09/14/08
Who told you that?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
I asked you where to get the $240 deal but you declined to answer  stevey_d | 09/11/08
Stevey, Stevey, Stevey  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/11/08
ok posted on this above  stevey_d | 09/11/08
User level mode only applies  soonerproud | 09/11/08
I don't get why microsoft would move  stevey_d | 09/11/08
What part of the previous post  soonerproud | 09/11/08
In other words, they aren't going to answer your question, stevey  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
His question was answered  soonerproud | 09/12/08
Neither have you all  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
Yes, I did  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/12/08
The proof soonerproud that vista should only allow usermode is  stevey_d | 09/12/08
Dump iTunes, use WINAMP! (NT)  butler360 | 09/11/08
Agree, although that Sharepod looks intriguing  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  networkassault | 09/11/08
I agree completely  stevey_d | 09/11/08
for someone who complain as much as you do  Yax_to_the_Max | 09/12/08
Yax, I;m not the one complaining about itunes  stevey_d | 09/12/08
"Alarmist tactics"  beoz | 09/11/08
Tell Ed that  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/12/08
Thanks, Glad I canceled that update.  voska1 | 09/11/08
Get a Mac II  David Blomstrom | 09/11/08
You really are...  Sleeper Service | 09/11/08
are you aware of the comparative Sales Market Cap for  stevey_d | 09/11/08
You miss everyone's point  rileinc | 09/11/08
How do you KNOW it's poorly coded  stevey_d | 09/12/08
@stevey  beoz | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  stillgolfing | 09/11/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  ernieoporto@... | 09/11/08
Pardon my Ignorance but...  KeithAu001 | 09/11/08
NO MORE  cwhull | 09/11/08
...  emenau | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  jasonwheeler | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  alexobenauer | 09/12/08
Where did I complain about QuickTime?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  JDLjr | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  vampyreapocalypse | 09/12/08
Oh goody...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/12/08
.....  Badgered | 09/16/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  Gis Bun | 09/12/08
GEARAspiWDM not the cause of BSOD after all  gearsupport | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  jaszman | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  winterheat | 09/12/08
re drivers... thanks again ed  stevey_d | 09/12/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  JoeBob_z | 09/13/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  8wintermute8 | 09/13/08
Have you ever used Windows Update?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/14/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  LawrenceSpeece@... | 09/13/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  LawrenceSpeece@... | 09/13/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  bb_apptix | 09/15/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  strisiver@... | 09/15/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  hawkeyeaz1 | 09/15/08
It's all lies... MS Lies again.. can't you see?  GetReal-mac.com | 09/15/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  swiftmac | 09/16/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  marcooni | 09/17/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  lexx6669@... | 09/26/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  mombo1948 | 10/02/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  rgeiken@... | 10/07/08
What happens if I uninstall iTunes?  jim@... | 10/09/08
RE: An inside look at Apple's sneaky iTunes 8 upgrade  tlcflorida2005 | 11/28/08
iTunes update causes missing CD/DVD drive letters = SOLVED  Michael 2005 | 04/17/09

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