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MS staggers ahead, when forced. Exactly how many years did you wait for IE7: And, IE8 won't be out for a while yet, and FireFox 3 (already released) is already better. Add to that, FireFox 3.1 is waiting in the wings and might be out about the same time as IE8.

So, even blind sheep using MS products have seen all kinds of innovation from the pressure put on them by Firefox.

And, I can not stop laughing about your comments on 20th century bloated office suites for printing on 8.5x11 paper. Heloooo, this is the 21st century. Wacky baroque features to format for printing on paper are on the way out, and publishing on paper is sooooo yesterday. Wake up and smell the coffee.; Posted by: DonnieBoy Posted on: 08/27/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Standards cfischer83@... | 08/27/08

You should NEVER use WinIE-specific CSS hacks in the FIRST place! Joel R | 09/02/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover Loverock Davidson | 08/27/08

Adrian knows a lot more than you do here. See his very good report: DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

Well, whatever... Ed Bott

| 08/27/08

Not only that... cfischer83@... | 08/27/08

Donnie, Donnie, Donnie tonymcs@... | 08/27/08

MS staggers ahead, when forced. Exactly how many years did you wait for IE7 DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

OSS will have what in 4-5 years?? mdsmedia | 08/27/08

Are you sure? Grayson Peddie | 08/28/08

Hmmm. Bozzer | 08/28/08

It is even worse, MS does not even comply with their own standard. DonnieBoy | 08/28/08

docx is NOT a standard, it is a file extention. MS does NOT even comply DonnieBoy | 08/28/08

Oh, by the way... Joel R | 09/02/08

The difference is Paul Fletcher | 08/28/08

Shocking Richard Flude | 08/27/08

MS STILL has 70% share, and they figure that is enough to put the brakes DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

Except totally ignoring IE8's capabilities, good post beoz | 08/27/08

CSS may be better, but, look at the graph for ACID 3 compliance. In general DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

Web sites don't run browsers! ShadeTree | 08/28/08

Why is he wrong if that happens? hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/28/08

I don't think you get it. No sites do not run browsers, but they make their DonnieBoy | 08/28/08

Especially since TraceMonkey is coming in Firefox 3.1! Joel R | 09/02/08

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Bozzer | 08/28/08

We are talking pleasing customer with standards compliance, performance, DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover ChrisOPeterson | 08/27/08

There is feedback Ed Bott

| 08/27/08

The thing is, Microsoft WANTS confusion about standards, and they WANT DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

See post above beoz | 08/27/08

Right, MS is creating a lot of confusion around standards, but, IE8 still DonnieBoy | 08/27/08

IE8 Beta 1 passed the ACID test ShadeTree | 08/28/08

re: See post above none none | 08/28/08

can you not read? - or do you just not comprehend? Paul Fletcher | 08/28/08

Can read very well. And, it does not take a rocket scientist to see that MS DonnieBoy | 08/28/08

Some questions for you Ed Bott

| 08/28/08

"I eagerly await your responses." LegendsOfBatman | 08/29/08

I see that you edited you post to add some actual arguments to your insults DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

Didn't answer a single question Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

You just did not like the answers, I answered them very well. DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

You're not really interested in a debate Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Again, I understand what is going on very well. Your offhand insults DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

C'mon, Donnie Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Man, you are making me cry. Poor Microsoft having to compete with a tiny DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

Caveman say: Firefox good, IE bad Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Obviously, with MS refusing to implement standards, web sites can not DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

You are so touchy Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Again, just calm down and go back through my posts. I answered all of your DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

Please point me to the part about the Acid Test Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Come Ed, you know that I answered that. The Acid Test is a very good DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

You don't get it Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

I guess it really does bother you that Firefox does so well, and it so good DonnieBoy | 08/29/08

So let's talk about Acid 3 Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

| 08/29/08

Over on Ed's personal blog ... Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

| 08/30/08

Not sure what you mean here Ed ... Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

| 08/30/08

It's still IE... ZachE84 | 08/27/08

WoW tonymcs@... | 08/27/08

ya wow! ericesque | 08/27/08

only in some areas cfischer83@... | 08/27/08

been there, tried that Paul Fletcher | 08/28/08

Common Knowledge? LegendsOfBatman | 08/29/08

I like that!! mdsmedia | 08/27/08

Standards compliant... (snicker) wolf_z | 08/28/08

A small list of sites that may help you deaf_e_kate | 08/28/08

lol! none none | 08/28/08

Did you actually test this theory of yours or... lenohere | 08/28/08

Thanks for the review beoz | 08/27/08

Sounds like Flash Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

Haha, thanks Ed =D beoz | 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover jetsethi | 08/27/08

bottom line joaolcbarros@... | 08/28/08

Agree jamestbaines@... | 08/28/08

postscript Red-Dog | 08/28/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover WL80 | 08/28/08

Riddle me this? ShadeTree | 08/28/08

They will soon enough... (nt) hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/28/08

OSS math: 70% + 40% = 100 transposeIT | 08/28/08

Expect to see Firefox make further inroads... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/29/08

2005 features added in 2008, MS claims victory zaine_ridling | 08/28/08

the world's dominant browser Red-Dog | 08/28/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover bricar2 | 08/28/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover tsm1945 | 08/28/08

From the same place... Ed Bott

| 08/28/08

I can wait but it does look promising! ebiron | 08/28/08

Anything that lets me make more standards compliant HTML is good! T1Oracle | 08/28/08

tests done! Mitch 74 | 08/29/08

Web slices are not Active Desktop Ed Bott

| 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover rayevans@... | 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover tacylove@... | 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover alresave@... | 08/29/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover pavan.gayakwad@... | 09/01/08

RE: Internet Explorer 8 gets a massive makeover MarkAtHome | 09/02/08

browser or home page witch is it missplaced | 09/02/08

About Talkback moderation Ed Bott

| 09/02/08

Oh dear martin23 | 09/04/08

IE8 Is A Resource Hog...Even More So Than IE7 chessmen | 09/04/08

The report is full of crap Ed Bott

| 09/04/08

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