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Gee, I don't know
running SQL queries at the file system level maybe? You know,
future-vision kind of stuff.

Here's a question back at you:

If it provides NO benefit at all, then why is MS still pouring money
into it?
Posted by: frgough   Posted on: 08/20/08  (Edited: 08/20/2008 @ 10:47) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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same question  trenchsol | 08/20/08
What about licensing Sun ZFS?  BillDem | 09/09/08
This makes everything so easy, now.  frgough | 08/20/08
Then by all means explain what benefit it brings.  ye | 08/20/08
Gee, I don't know  frgough | 08/20/08
Nice in theory, bad in practice  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Agreed,  frgough | 08/20/08
Who said that?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Do you read the stuff you write?  frgough | 08/20/08
"very bad consequences" ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
You believe that?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Dunno ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
A 2008 update  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
@Ed ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Read the interview with Quentin Clark  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
I'll give you one reason right off the top of my head why I like WinFS ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Windows Search is Extensible  MarkLR | 08/20/08
Cheers for that ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Go read the SDK  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
I'm gonna take a couple of these for a spin ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
They're both indexed searches  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
How about a non fragmenting file system?  TripleII | 08/20/08
Vista Does it without you having to worry  meyersjtj | 08/20/08
@TripleII: It's one of those things Vista does...  ye | 08/20/08
Defrags 100% of the time, great feature.  TripleII | 08/20/08
I never said it was perfect.  ye | 08/20/08
Civility  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
If you want the source.  TripleII | 08/20/08
It sounds like your 'fix'  mdemuth | 08/20/08
I do wonder though.  TripleII | 08/20/08
Really wish the personal attacks would stop  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
You were either deceptive or not as knowledgable as...  ye | 08/20/08
End it, please  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
To eliminate the need to defrag at all...  storm14k | 08/20/08
Two things:  ye | 08/20/08
I'll try to answer with a link  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
No, I have not experienced a system slow down over time.  ye | 08/20/08
Millions of Windows computers experience this!  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
Re:SpikeyMike  frgough | 08/20/08
@SpikeyMike: Where?  ye | 08/20/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/20/08
Ye stop the nonesense  storm14k | 08/20/08
@Ye - For crying out loud man!  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
@SpikeyMike: Asking for proof is some how bad?  ye | 08/20/08
@Ye - You win. Not more posts to you.  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
@mike  Badgered | 08/22/08
Bogus Argument SpikyMike  mikefarinha | 08/20/08
You are by far the worst apologist on these forums.  TripleII | 08/20/08
Big changes to defrag engine in Vista  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Vista defrag not so good on notebooks  Jim Johnson | 08/21/08
Desktop, eh, server, not so great.  TripleII | 08/20/08
Because replacing the file system breaks a lot of stuff  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Can I ask why without getting flamed?  TripleII | 08/20/08
Security  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
The question is whether to expend the resources .....  ShadeTree | 08/21/08
It might be better to build it into the file system...  John L. Ries | 08/20/08
I'm not disagreeing with you ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Never a moot point  John L. Ries | 08/20/08
Defragging is probably  deaf_e_kate | 08/20/08
WinFS isn't a file system, really  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Those file systems fragement too:  ye | 08/20/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/20/08
I've never had to defrag my Windows disks either.  ye | 08/20/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/20/08
Please stop it...  storm14k | 08/20/08
How about some facts? You're good at ambiguous claims...  ye | 08/20/08
You've told on yourself now...  storm14k | 08/20/08
@storm14k: I don't deny fragmentation happens.  ye | 08/20/08
Ye...its simply physics  storm14k | 08/20/08
@storm14k: What part of the following is giving you a hard time?  ye | 08/20/08
Re" I've never had to defrag my Windows disks either.  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 08/20/08
Why? (nt)  ye | 08/20/08
Not by design they don't.  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
It's a non-issue for Windows systems too.  ye | 08/20/08
Unlike you, I don't need Microsoft to tell me...  SpikeyMike | 08/20/08
I am drawing on my experience. And so far...  ye | 08/20/08
The problem with benchmarking fragmentation ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
@AKH: How so?  ye | 08/20/08
"Ye  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
@AKH: If it's not easy to benchmark then how...  ye | 08/20/08
Benchmarking randomness....that really makes sense..  storm14k | 08/20/08
@Storm14K, you left out the date and disclaimer  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
@storm14k: It does if we're to believe defragmenting...  ye | 08/20/08
@Ed...  storm14k | 08/20/08
@storm14k: Please don't misrepresent what I said.  ye | 08/20/08
You can't win, better to just give up.  TripleII | 08/20/08
Well...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Yeah ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Adrian, I agree  B.Beck | 08/20/08
Your cases are edge cases on a desktop  deaf_e_kate | 08/20/08
I know, it is a complete subsystem.  TripleII | 08/20/08
Most of these are resource decisions  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Just a couple of hours?  deaf_e_kate | 08/20/08
Resistant is good  John L. Ries | 08/20/08
RE: How about a non fragmenting file system?  Axsimulate | 08/20/08
Re: fragmentation impacts  beoz | 08/21/08
Straightens that out  John L. Ries | 08/20/08
transactions and enforceable cardinality in relationships  midas79 | 08/20/08
Because MS oversold it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/20/08
Yes, and it's even worse  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/20/08
Mixed thoughts...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/20/08
I think Gates' support was more important  PB_z | 08/20/08
Searching non-indexed locations  nstuff | 08/20/08
Replace the file system for this?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/21/08
Thank you Ed for the demystification  tonymcs@... | 08/20/08
I don't want WinFS, I want a better equivalent to Linux OSFS  Evisscerator | 08/20/08
Which 'Starndard' Linux File System?  mikefarinha | 08/20/08
Isn't this all moot?  jmaruschek@... | 08/20/08
Ed is the best man at zdnet.com  qmlscycrajg | 08/21/08
Don't know about that  John L. Ries | 08/21/08
Since when does MS care about users needs?  devlin_X | 08/28/08
RE: Why do you want WinFS?  Cyclic | 09/22/08
Why WinFS?.  magallanes | 10/28/08

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