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Nicely done
I appreciate that you took the time to speak with the researcher who actually discovered the flaws.

There are a couple of bloggers on ZDNET who always seem slant their "blogs" with grandiose claims against one platform or technology.

I think when a person is reporting about something like a conference or technical seminar, the "report" isn't really a "blog" and instead becomes "journalism".

Either just report a summary of what happened, or what the content was, but don't pass off opinions as "the content".

As such, I think ZDNET should encourage their contributors who cover these type of cenferences to hold themselves to a better standard than simply spouting off brainless opinions to run up their hit-count.

If Adrian had any sense of professional responsibility he should be feeling chastised by Sotirov's rebuttal, but somehow I doubt it...
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Nicely done  croberts | 08/11/08
Thanks Ed...  OutsideThe Box | 08/11/08
Again, Bravo Ed  silent.griffin | 08/11/08
Thanks to all!  Pliny the Elder | 08/11/08
Rebuttal forthcoming from Adrian Kingsley-Hughes?  cnfrisch | 08/11/08
Adrian, we're ready when you are.. (NT)  silent.griffin | 08/11/08
I hope Adrian likes the taste of humble pie....  Scrat | 08/12/08
Yes Adrian...  rjohn05 | 08/12/08
Wow!  Qbt | 08/11/08
Thanks Ed, great blog  NonZealot | 08/11/08
You can't avoid the Gutman effect  cgdams | 08/12/08
Earth to Ed ..... being a nice "black hat" won't change the fact ...  wackoae | 08/11/08
Sure, whe get it...  cgdams | 08/12/08
Reality is missing you.  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
Beverage abuse alert!  wolf_z | 08/12/08
You never ....  wackoae | 08/12/08
Nor men mine.  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
There is a reason you have "wacko" in your name...  Scrat | 08/12/08
What about using some neurons ....  wackoae | 08/12/08
wacko what is their to debunk. prove what you said then  SO.CAL Guy | 08/12/08
One immutable truth about online debate  Duke E. Love | 08/15/08
As you would try to spin it the other way? (nt)  GuidingLight | 08/12/08
Thanks, Ed.  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
thanks ed, but please follow up  patibulo | 08/12/08
These guys are "experienced hackers"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
Oh dear Patibulo, you don't really understand the term BLACK HAT do you NT  Scrat | 08/12/08
give me a break patibulo calling the researchers liars shows you just want  SO.CAL Guy | 08/12/08
Great blog Ed you are one of the only reasons I stay reading ZDNet  Martin_Australia | 08/12/08
Thank God for Ed Bott!  eggmanbubbagee@... | 08/12/08
I wanna be in Ed's gang?  martin23 | 08/13/08
Martin, you missed one part  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
Your other mistake  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
Interesting response ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
Then why is there a Norton AV for OSX? (nt)  GuidingLight | 08/12/08
Mainly scare tactics by Norton to increase revenue wink  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/12/08
Man you are a funny little man...nt  USTechHead | 08/14/08
Because theres a sucker born every minute....(nt)  devlin_X | 08/13/08
Sorry Adrian, that is just weak!  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Sorry, that's weak ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
So is it your contention ....  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Fictitious?  quux | 08/12/08
Your proof is?  devlin_X | 08/13/08
Mate as we say in Australia the horse has already bolted so give it up  Martin_Australia | 08/12/08
"Truth" defined as those who can shout the loudest?  Zogg | 08/12/08
Limitations  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
Yes, but how does that answer my question?  Zogg | 08/12/08
Let me try again  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
But this paper shows how you can exploit a buffer overrun in Vista!  Zogg | 08/12/08
Further  nmcfeters | 08/12/08
Even if they don't - still have to find a vulnerability.  DevGuy_z | 08/12/08
Ah...  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
I believe...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
Bingo.  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
Keeping Score  Harry Bardal | 08/12/08
*Sigh*  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
The average non technical user?  notsofast | 08/13/08
Adrian it is easier to admit you were wrong than to keep  SO.CAL Guy | 08/12/08
Well Adrian Yes but...  marks055@... | 08/12/08
Wanna be somewhere else right about now?  flatliner | 08/12/08
Well Duh!  notsofast | 08/13/08
Great Job Ed  B.Beck | 08/12/08
Another Tirade From Ed Bott  chessmen | 08/12/08
Hilarious  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
There should be an award ....  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Does Not Even Deserve An Award...  OutsideThe Box | 08/12/08
Have you actually read the paper yet?  Zogg | 08/12/08
Yes I have...  OutsideThe Box | 08/12/08
No...  Sleeper Service | 08/12/08
You can claim that when the patch is installed.  Zogg | 08/13/08
There's no evidence...  Sleeper Service | 08/13/08
Flash was only one example presented.  Zogg | 08/13/08
Then I guess it's a race then.  Sleeper Service | 08/13/08
Yes, it's a race.  Zogg | 08/13/08
Yes. It worries me. But Chicken Little is still wrong.  quux | 08/12/08
You forgot .Net. Apparently, it's even worse than Flash and Java. (NT)  Zogg | 08/13/08
Didn't forget.  quux | 08/14/08
What's wrong in defending something that is wrongfully maligned.  DevGuy_z | 08/12/08
Hello?!?!?!?!! The paper *proves* that Vista is NOT solid!  Zogg | 08/12/08
Rebel with a cause  B.Beck | 08/12/08
mo?ron [–noun] coming from the greek moros, meaning "foolish, dull"  Scrat | 08/12/08
More like another attempt to shoot the messenger  LBiege | 08/12/08
Great Work, Ed  nilotpal_c | 08/12/08
WOW  B.Beck | 08/12/08
The difference between blogging and reporting  coffeeshark | 08/12/08
This is beyond hilarious  storm14k | 08/12/08
Reality Check Buddy  mikefarinha | 08/12/08
Eh ...?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
A hint  mikegalos@... | 08/12/08
I don't think...  storm14k | 08/12/08
I agree  thungurknifur | 08/14/08
Defense in depth  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/14/08
Actually the security hasn't changed!  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
This has got to be a joke...  storm14k | 08/12/08
Read what the author of the paper ....  ShadeTree | 08/13/08
RE: Eh...?  mikefarinha | 08/12/08
Check this...  storm14k | 08/12/08
Let me spell it out for you.  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Makes it like XP, in fact.  Zogg | 08/12/08
Or just like linux or OSX ....  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Apples, oranges?  Zogg | 08/12/08
Depends on which version and which distro?  ShadeTree | 08/12/08
Linux has supported the NX bit since August 2004.  Zogg | 08/13/08
Ahem...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
Ahem Ahem...  storm14k | 08/12/08
You find it "funny"...  cgdams | 08/13/08
You really need to read again  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
You guys need a fresh start  LBiege | 08/12/08
Wow, what pat-on-the-back fest!! grin  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/12/08
Let me cite Terry Pratchett...  cgdams | 08/12/08
LOL - Very good.nt  USTechHead | 08/14/08
Not "completely"?  Qbt | 08/12/08
Dense or just plain humored?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/12/08
Your are no different  B.Beck | 08/14/08
Then its on par with XP...  storm14k | 08/12/08
Thanks for confirming everyone's view...nt  USTechHead | 08/14/08
Nice work, Ed  davidsmontgomery@... | 08/14/08
Wow.  Gnutella | 08/14/08
Well done Ed, very nice follow-up...nt  USTechHead | 08/14/08
Ed I love you. FUD campaign against Vista has been debunked again!  qmlscycrajg | 08/16/08
Put the pom-poms down and back away slowly.  Zogg | 08/17/08
And in case you've forgotten...  Sleeper Service | 08/17/08
The score is "all currently unfixed", until we learn differently.  Zogg | 08/17/08
Oh stop it.  Sleeper Service | 08/17/08
Fine, enjoy waving your pom-poms in the meantime then.  Zogg | 08/17/08
I did.  Sleeper Service | 08/21/08

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