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I don't count security patches, but I regularly have to clean malware from our XP machines but have yet to find anything on our Vista systems.
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My take  itpro_z | 07/25/08
I hear that a lot  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/25/08
I agree  NonZealot | 07/25/08
It's not just the counting  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/25/08
Although I feel that Vista's security  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
I agree but....  T1Oracle | 07/25/08
And I agree with you  brble | 07/25/08
See my other comment in this thread  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/25/08
Incongruities  Harry Bardal | 07/25/08
Summer reruns  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/25/08
What I said about Vista...  brble | 07/25/08
get your blog (NT)  readwrite | 07/25/08
Just to pick one of your points...  Ben_E | 07/26/08
Same Experience So Far  soonerproud | 07/25/08
Although the UAC prompts maybe  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Same hear two machines at home (knock-knock)...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/28/08
Agrees...  5ri | 07/25/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  Loverock Davidson | 07/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/08
While I agree with the article...  AndyCee | 07/27/08
Citation has already been given...  MyBlueRex | 07/28/08
OEM installs  bbbaldie_z | 07/28/08
Check Out This Blog  chessmen | 07/28/08
I don't doubt...  AndyCee | 07/29/08
I think it will be quite a while  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Flocking  bwchato | 08/12/08
most of your programs will work  rtk | 08/12/08
First..  Viva la crank dodo | 08/19/09
Loverock  Viva la crank dodo | 08/19/09
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/08
Well if you're gonna talk about security...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/25/08
Even as a linux user...  AndyCee | 07/29/08
I think Vista is more secure, but nothing is bulletproof.  osreinstall | 07/26/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/26/08
devil  osreinstall | 07/26/08
How does Linux protect against user actions?  ye | 07/28/08
It depends on the reason  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
I am not following what you mean by "depends on the reason".  ye | 07/28/08
What I mean  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
@Michael Kelly: So what is your point?  ye | 07/28/08
Kelly, you are not realistic.  osreinstall | 07/28/08
osreinstall, not saying that at all  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
Ye...  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
Kelly, you have to wait until legacy goes away.  osreinstall | 07/28/08
osreinstall, giving a detailed explanation  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
Kelly, they don't want to hear any of it.  osreinstall | 07/28/08
@Michael Kelly: How would you propose they do that?  ye | 07/28/08
Ye again...  Michael Kelly | 07/28/08
10 years to implement. You are joking.  osreinstall | 07/28/08
@Michael Kelly: Your request sounds good on the surface.  ye | 07/28/08
Ye... unfortunately  Michael Kelly | 07/29/08
@Michael Kelly: What would you have MS do?  ye | 07/29/08
Message has been deleted.  bmerc | 07/30/08
User can't do it  Chad_z | 07/29/08
Don't give the Windows user administrator privileges either.  ye | 07/29/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/29/08
Users can trash Linux.  osreinstall | 07/29/08
That's one reason  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
You missed the point.  osreinstall | 07/29/08
I didn't miss your point  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Yes you did, bigtime.  osreinstall | 07/29/08
" You have to stop spreading linux is bulletproof myth. "  bmerc | 07/30/08
Yes, you guys do go overboard.  osreinstall | 07/30/08
Just a thought...  914four | 07/29/08
wahuh?  rtk | 07/29/08
...  socialism=nowhere | 07/28/08
Message has been deleted.  marks055@... | 07/25/08
That UAC stuff helps after all  LBiege | 07/25/08
Yup.  CobraA1 | 07/26/08
Hey Ed, I noticed the gap's closing...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/26/08
Of course it will still be alive  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/26/08
XP  bwchato | 08/12/08
Since Vista started with the XP kernel  bjbrock | 07/26/08
Wrong  soonerproud | 07/26/08
Well they should have started with a Linux kernel  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/28/08
That's like saying, "no need for sudo!"  Grayson Peddie | 07/28/08
Technically, you don't need sudo  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Yea, it is right...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/29/08
Rootkits are named such  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Non Root/Admin is a wonderful thing.  TripleII | 07/26/08
Definition of UAC  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/26/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 07/26/08
I don't see that much difference  marks055@... | 07/27/08
I agree ...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/28/08
Keep hearing this. But rarely do I see specifics.  ye | 07/28/08
It's in the post he's replying to  AndyCee | 07/29/08
They've been in Windows since 1993  ye | 07/29/08
Not all of them  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/29/08
Those are not security features.  ye | 07/29/08
Read the entire thread  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/29/08
@ Ed Bott: I am "prickly" because...  ye | 07/29/08
Actually, Ye Microsoft has taken quite a few  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
OK let me get this straight...  bmerc | 07/30/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/29/08
Specifics, hardly. I keep hearing "they should fix it".  ye | 07/29/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/29/08
More secure, fine.  markofkane | 07/31/08
I agree 100%. It was an argument I put forth for years...  ye | 07/28/08
I absolutely agree.  mwagner@... | 08/15/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  waldenasta | 07/26/08
Vista Switch  Christopher73 | 07/27/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  Burningfeetman | 07/27/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  MyBlueRex | 07/28/08
So? Who really cares about this "solution?"  Jeremy W | 07/28/08
Actually...  bbbaldie_z | 07/28/08
Message has been deleted.  Jeremy W | 07/28/08
Message has been deleted.  Jeremy W | 07/29/08
Why has the Mac fallen in pwn2own?  DevGuy_z | 07/28/08
Two other factors  diane wilson | 07/28/08
Gee, time to run out and get Vista!  SteveMak | 07/28/08
Well, everyone was on Microsoft's case about security.  ye | 07/28/08
vague?  merc2dogs` | 07/28/08
Yes, vague.  ye | 07/28/08
Cameras? MidiDV?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/08
To his credit he did say :  ye | 07/28/08
Wait two years, then decide...  The Rationalist | 07/28/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  ashmulay80 | 07/28/08
In my single, not pretending it's representative benchmark...  ye | 07/28/08
Ok so what is the percentage of PC with Vista installed ???  mrlinux | 07/28/08
I assume somewhere around 180 million  ye | 07/28/08
Well then it is not much above 10%....  mrlinux | 07/28/08
Was that a market share argument you just put forth?  ye | 07/28/08
Still trotting out that ridiculous statistic...  bmerc | 07/30/08
Fine  AndyCee | 07/31/08
RE: Ridiculous statistic... I totally agree!!!  whitesfyre | 07/31/08
Microsoft will only tell us what's sold...  rcar | 07/28/08
and what they cannot tell us is ...  LBiege | 07/28/08
so will apple.  rtk | 07/28/08
A little correction... happy  Solid Water | 07/28/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  rwarmstrong1948@... | 07/28/08
Uh, might want to read again...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/08
Message has been deleted.  deliveryman1 | 07/28/08
Why the hell was my message deleted!!!!???  deliveryman1 | 07/29/08
see ya.  rtk | 07/29/08
Poor measure of security  preagan9999 | 07/28/08
Of course it is...  ejhonda | 07/28/08
You mean to say Vista has that many already!  mikifinaz1@... | 07/28/08
Reading is Fundamental,,,  OutsideThe Box | 07/28/08
Oh...  Badgered | 07/28/08
Reading comprehension  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  gbray@... | 07/28/08
21 months later, Vista Is Still Hated  chessmen | 07/28/08
Windows Vista Windows OneCare = Outstanding Security  cnfrisch | 07/28/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/28/08
You missed one  CreepinJesus | 07/29/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/29/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  dysart | 07/28/08
Nice Synopsis.  beoz | 07/28/08
Very nicely surmised (nt)  AndyCee | 07/31/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP...  Solid Water | 07/28/08
Strip The Crap Out And Repackage It  itanalyst2@... | 07/28/08
I'd have been more surprised if Vista wasn't more secure than XP  zkiwi | 07/28/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  jimiznhb | 07/29/08
Vista is still more secure than XP?  as901 | 07/29/08
maybe you can have someone  rtk | 07/29/08
They just can't sell it.  bjbrock | 07/29/08
Why Vista sells...  chrisfrmatl | 07/29/08
Vista is more secure than XP?!?!?!  bmerc | 07/29/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  SHAMKEN@... | 07/29/08
Something different every day?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/29/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  jackie40d@... | 07/31/08
Post moved? Moderator?  AndyCee | 07/31/08
21 months later, Vista is still more ONNEROUS than XP  madrucke@... | 07/31/08
RRE: 21 months later, Vista is still being pushed as better than XP? NOT!  whitesfyre | 07/31/08
Your figures are full of it  SirCatlord | 07/31/08
RE: Your figures are full of it  whitesfyre | 07/31/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  gbash@... | 08/01/08
RE: 21 months later, Vista is still more secure than XP  michael@... | 08/03/08
lol  rtk | 08/03/08
Vista is still more secure than XP? Of course!  grail@... | 08/05/08
Vista security discovered to be even more usless  chessmen | 08/08/08
Total crap  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
not total crap at all  james.faction | 09/25/08
The authors of the paper in question said so  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/25/08
I was interested in the article and your take on it  marks055@... | 08/09/08
My follow-up  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
News: Windows (Vista) broken ? I?m surprised it took this long  whitesfyre | 08/11/08
Sensationalist and wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
All good things take time...  mikifinaz1@... | 08/12/08

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