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well...: You're using a pentium M for Christ's sake. I have a pentium 4 with HT running at 3 Ghz.
Took half an hour or so to load Vista. Also, you PROBABLY had bad drivers from XP. XP drivers are not necessarily (read: almost never) compatible with Vista. An upgrade with no HDD wipe is usually not a good idea. I just backed up my documents, settings, and anything important then installed Vista. Worked superbly. Vista found everything it needed, and all my hardware worked. I wasn't stupid enough to install nVidia's drivers, but Vista picked up the GeForce 7900GS from eVGA no problem. Home Premium with full eye candy. No issues. Maybe you should have READ THE FORUMS about the fact that Vista is NOT an upgrade of XP. It's a whole new system that emulates XP, which is why XP programs *COULD* run slower.; Posted by: evilkillerwhale@... Posted on: 07/12/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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For what? tonymcs@... | 07/10/08

Oh come on! TripleII | 07/10/08

Oh come on yourself! toadlife | 07/10/08

Vista's launch compared to XPs gtimchishen | 07/11/08

MS Did LiquidLearner | 07/11/08

You're correct notsofast | 07/11/08

XP is NOT Vista is NOT XP XweAponX | 07/13/08

XP problems Ian_ | 07/13/08

Your memory is a little faulty Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

MS still shares some of the blame Michael Kelly | 07/11/08

NO, you come on... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

Not necessarily ... mwagner@... | 07/11/08

Yes, necessarily... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

Two questions Badgered | 07/11/08

Two answers hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

good lord.... ivanotter | 07/11/08

I'm not buying your story marks055@... | 07/11/08

I don't care what you buy, fanboy hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/12/08

well... evilkillerwhale@... | 07/12/08

well... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08

I beg to differ. evilkillerwhale@... | 07/12/08

Upgrade whole machine ? Devonmcnulty@... | 09/06/08

lots of questionnable developments in this path stevey_d | 07/11/08

Fair enough... Ben_E | 07/11/08

I disagree voska1 | 07/11/08

I disagree... ivanotter | 07/11/08

Keeping perspective fenex@... | 07/12/08

Assuming you are correct Freebird54 | 07/12/08

So what you're saying then... konkreet | 07/14/08

Ok Then dave01010101 | 07/11/08

THe point of the eMachine is... TripleII | 07/11/08

Your examples... Ben_E | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08

I agree with this DonBurnett | 07/11/08

Well said Ed Bott

| 08/16/08

i love pain jiagebusen | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? don.overton@... | 07/10/08

If the job is so difficult, they should find... bjbrock | 07/10/08

If I still develop OS components can I complain? (NT) TripleII | 07/10/08

It can't be that hard... gtdworak | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08

Wow Bob_BLC | 07/11/08

0 issues??? hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08

Yet again TedKraan | 07/14/08

Microsoft's Fault Cardhu | 07/14/08

Yeah... ivanotter | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08

Hehe, reminds me of iPhone fanboys NonZealot | 07/13/08

As if Apple code Darwin timiteh | 07/11/08

Aye? Kaiwai | 07/12/08

The answer is because MS limits themselves Michael Kelly | 07/11/08

Apple's job is much easier ... mwagner@... | 07/11/08

Linux's job is just as difficult as MS's job TedKraan | 07/14/08

Vastly superior marks055@... | 07/12/08

I'm with you on this Crestview | 07/12/08

Ed, see what happens when you cross a fanboy? bmerc | 07/11/08

But I never kick my dog Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Hey, I also said I think you're a great writer... bmerc | 07/11/08

If I only I had a clever insult ... Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Keeping the brain active in retirment? martin23 | 07/14/08

If it weren't for Vista... Kromaethius | 07/10/08

Your type of experience is in the minority. bjbrock | 07/10/08

You're joking aren't you? MyBlueRex | 07/10/08

Spurious. A Grain of Salt | 07/10/08

Dude you are smoking something! Martin_Australia | 07/10/08

I must admit I've been out of Aus for 18 months A Grain of Salt | 07/11/08

When will this myth die? NonZealot | 07/10/08

I'm not complaining about Vista A Grain of Salt | 07/11/08

Vista does face stiff competition NonZealot | 07/11/08

It's only sold 140.... Bob_BLC | 07/11/08

Specious again... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

Big difference between a store run by Apple called James Quinn | 07/11/08

Perhaps Badgered | 07/11/08

Lets be fair.... James Quinn | 07/11/08

@James Quinn Ben_E | 07/13/08

re: Let's be fair Badgered | 07/14/08

I wouldn't say never soonerproud | 07/11/08

NonZealot, he was commenting on the poster's comments about retail sales bmerc | 07/11/08

wrong place (nt) hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

Yup, right on! Kromaethius | 07/10/08

Because they don't know any differently professordnm | 07/11/08

You seem to be joking TtfnJohn | 07/11/08

No, we cannot. At least not until such time as YOU can demonstrate... ye | 07/11/08

Don't be stupid Ye, you know better bmerc | 07/11/08

Strawman. Notice what I wrote and not what you said: ye | 07/11/08

lol TedKraan | 07/14/08

Still talking in circles, ye... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

And the Macintosh? Apple is just this little unknown company? ye | 07/11/08

Apple's growing, ye... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

@b8375629: I don't have to tell you anything. ye | 07/11/08

140 million is YOUR claim, ye... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

@b8375629: 140 million is not my number. It's Bill Gates' number: ye | 07/14/08

Here we go again... bmerc | 07/11/08

Yes, here we go with the fantasies again. ye | 07/11/08

Any facts to support the INITIAL claim that they are? bmerc | 07/11/08

The facts are MS has stated they have sold over... ye | 07/11/08

Lets take a look @ some other numbers... mrlinux | 07/14/08

I Understand (part of) your pain, but... Kromaethius | 07/10/08

Good for you happy

happy

mrlinux | 07/14/08

That may be true, but this day and... Kromaethius | 07/15/08

You are missing the point... mrlinux | 07/15/08

This is Vista Today richm10@... | 07/19/08

maybe not for free but the price is an issue marks055@... | 07/10/08

I Agree... Kromaethius | 07/11/08

those who haven't tried it, learned, it, or at least studied it bmerc | 07/11/08

Having a problem comprehending? Kromaethius | 07/11/08

There will always be unhappy whiners Crestview | 07/12/08

I Agree... Kromaethius | 07/12/08

So how's game performance? TedKraan | 07/14/08

I gotta tell ya! Kromaethius | 07/14/08

lol.. nice reference TedKraan | 07/25/08

The problem is not Vista per se. bjbrock | 07/10/08

Configuring a network a nightmare compared marks055@... | 07/10/08

Nah, he's got a point TedKraan | 07/14/08

The problem is Microsoft, not Vista... BillDem | 07/10/08

Did you mess yourself up , Dude? dprozzo | 07/10/08

Crippled versions vs Full OS for a fair price BillDem | 07/11/08

A Question for you Kaiwai | 07/12/08

Answers for you =) BillDem | 07/14/08

Sorry!? for What... Windows Defender | 07/10/08

Ed, impressive how you have drawn the defenders. TripleII | 07/10/08

So if everyone were to say that Linux is unstable, crashes... ye | 07/11/08

As long as you're defending... TtfnJohn | 07/11/08

Yes, let's be real. When will you start? ye | 07/11/08

And once again, Ye denies the possibility... bmerc | 07/11/08

Where? ye | 07/11/08

Right here... bmerc | 07/11/08

@bmerc: Again I ask: Where? ye | 07/11/08

Ah, but the difference is... bmerc | 07/11/08

Nor are they true of Vista. ye | 07/11/08

Would I let them go unchallenged? bmerc | 07/11/08

Nice cop out. What about "some guy" in talkbacks? ye | 07/11/08

It's my own personal experience. TripleII | 07/11/08

You're better than many. But you're still spreading FUD. Such as: ye | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08

I don't care if it's "in line with everyone else". What I care about is... ye | 07/13/08

Too simplistic Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

I don't get it TedKraan | 07/14/08

All of the above (nt) Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

Try PowerShell Kerry from BC | 07/11/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08

"Never Apologise. Friends will forgive you and enemies wont believe you." BanjoPaterson | 07/10/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08

What a defense! John L. Ries | 07/11/08

RE: What a defense! Windows Defender | 07/11/08

An apology from Balmer? TripleII | 07/10/08

Doesn't love mean never having to say you're sorry? Mac Hosehead | 07/10/08

Microsoft as rudderless and unable to deliver a competent product Jeremy W | 07/10/08

So how is my good experience with Vista explained? Martin_Australia | 07/10/08

See it as a dice. TedKraan | 07/11/08

Perhaps you could.... Jeremy W | 07/11/08

RE:...good experience with Vista explained?, needed n0neXn0ne | 07/11/08

I won five dollars off a scratch-off ticket yesterday... bmerc | 07/11/08

Which is it ???? mrlinux | 07/15/08

Which is it ???? GiMMeABreak | 07/16/08

My Vista experience has been nothing but positive NonZealot | 07/10/08

Thats been my experience marks055@... | 07/10/08

Vista on phones next? kraterz | 07/10/08

Think BIGGER. Think big.. Think really BIG. THINK REALLY REALY BIG TedKraan | 07/14/08

That is a VERY VERY scary thought GrimmReaperSound | 07/14/08

They need to be creative and even funny marks055@... | 07/10/08

First Impression TedKraan | 07/11/08

Brand recovery options johnfenjackson@... | 07/11/08

Yup, options TedKraan | 07/11/08

Microsoft deleting Firefox. Should they say... bjbrock | 07/11/08

Re: Microsoft deleting Firefox - Pure Nonsense. cnfrisch | 07/11/08

actually, no the STORY is correct, just the headline is false. bmerc | 07/11/08

Haha, thanks for the perfect example! NonZealot | 07/11/08

End-user reporting ... dkawalec | 07/11/08

No, and neither did they. But that didn't keep them from publishing... ye | 07/11/08

Just lower the price and take the stock drop on the chin. solomonrex | 07/11/08

Vista is only a symptom Chad_z | 07/11/08

The best way to get MS to shape up frgough | 07/11/08

Probably... Jeremy W | 07/11/08

The answer is easy: fix it and make it cost-effective terry flores | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? gjs16@... | 07/11/08

Causes for BSOD B.Beck | 07/11/08

Video Drivers. joe.smetona@... | 07/11/08

Update your drivers and apply sp1 (NT) soonerproud | 07/11/08

why? gdstark13 | 07/11/08

Perception, Truth, Fact and FUD B.Beck | 07/11/08

Only "some" of fault OEMs'? Please! ParrotHeadFL | 07/11/08

I have Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Of course B.Beck | 07/11/08

Yes, but... Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Can't disagree with you there. B.Beck | 07/11/08

Good question Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

OEM vendors can share some of the blame mystic100 | 07/11/08

Has anyone said otherwise? ye | 07/11/08

I agree B.Beck | 07/11/08

Get ready to rumble Chiatzu | 07/12/08

Same here B.Beck | 07/11/08

More than drivers Boykin01 | 07/11/08

Recognizing where the balme belongs B.Beck | 07/11/08

It was a win-win for everone but Microsoft. Boykin01 | 07/11/08

right TedKraan | 07/14/08

True Windows Defender | 07/11/08

they are forced anyways TedKraan | 07/14/08

Nuke all WGA/activation and DRM scott1329 | 07/11/08

The myth of DRM Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Try to play a blue-ray movie on any other OS Kerry from BC | 07/11/08

Sorry, you're wrong Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

RE: Sorry, you're wrong Kerry from BC | 07/11/08

It works better with Linux. TripleII | 07/11/08

Bypassing DRM is not an option for a corporation Kerry from BC | 07/11/08

Blu-Ray movies for business? TripleII | 07/12/08

Agree... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? reapur | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? RaydioDr | 07/11/08

Glass is only 3/4 full w_c_mead | 07/11/08

Generally agree John L. Ries | 07/11/08

Generally agree aussieblnd@... | 07/11/08

If it was... John L. Ries | 07/11/08

Agree with John L. B.Beck | 07/11/08

Why admins don't like Vista gmiller@... | 07/11/08

Even if it doesn't "suck," why should I want it? ernestm@... | 07/11/08

How about improved security? B.Beck | 07/11/08

Our security's not giving us any issues... ernestm@... | 07/11/08

Supporting old OSs B.Beck | 07/11/08

Change focus from criticism to Users' Challenges SteveMak | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? Tom in Toronto | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? morwen | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? drf999 | 07/11/08

How about having one version? RocketEater | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? deanyourfriendinzdnet | 07/11/08

They should forget salvaging Vista and move on. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08

So what would you suggest? Michael Kelly | 07/11/08

how about a security level between "make me mad" and "no security"? stevey_d | 07/11/08

Neither No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08

A heck of a lot easier said than done Michael Kelly | 07/14/08

No change in driver models Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

agreed, and they should listen to small developers stevey_d | 07/11/08

So I'll take that as a vote for Vista 2 (nt) Michael Kelly | 07/11/08

What should MS sell in the mean time? John L. Ries | 07/11/08

80% of all Windows sales No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08

Eat Your Crow First Buddy itanalyst2@... | 07/13/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? mwagner@... | 07/11/08

I agree B.Beck | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? akaltman@... | 07/11/08

All OSes are works in progress Ed Bott

| 07/11/08

Vista was oversold and under-delivered stevey_d | 07/11/08

Maintenance vs. beta akaltman@... | 07/14/08

Cluelessness Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? cameljockey | 07/11/08

Yeah I think Core Duo and 2 gig of ram is a minimum stevey_d | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? Mikey52 | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? mystic100 | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? parks_gloria | 07/11/08

This is the norm B.Beck | 07/11/08

'for what?' was a good start inertman@... | 07/11/08

Perception Of Vista StPatrick56 | 07/11/08

Good Post B.Beck | 07/11/08

Oops B.Beck | 07/11/08

"Sorta" New StPatrick56 | 07/11/08

Perception Of Vista hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08

"Buy An Apple" StPatrick56 | 07/11/08

Well let's see... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/12/08

OR.... StPatrick56 | 07/12/08

please point out rtk | 07/12/08

More red herrings again... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08

not just thick, color blind as well rtk | 07/13/08

Clear out the cobwebs, rtk... hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08

yeah, nice try, rtk | 07/13/08

Whoopsy-Daisy! grin

grin

hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/14/08

RE: My BlueRex tkepner | 07/11/08

Networking Windows Defender | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? larryarms737 | 07/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? drprod@... | 07/11/08

Nonsense Ed Bott

| 07/12/08

It's what I've come to expect from most Linux / Mac users in... ye | 07/13/08

..... Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08

Had I said that you might have a point. Since I did not you just... ye | 07/14/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? alxnsc@... | 07/12/08

Ed admits to lying about Vista! devlin_X | 07/12/08

Let's see some quotes, please Ed Bott

| 07/12/08

Your quotes sir.... devlin_X | 07/13/08

Not really a response Ed Bott

| 07/13/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? dawsobi@... | 07/12/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? dawsobi@... | 07/12/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? barend@... | 07/12/08

Microsoft Should Fight Vista Critics With More Advertising chessmen | 07/12/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? chris_x | 07/12/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? TheSickEmpire | 07/12/08

RE: How ... criticism? n0neXn0ne | 07/13/08

Vista Premium Ready = ULCPC softdrat@... | 07/12/08

Venn diagrams Ed Bott

| 07/13/08

re: ... ? n0neXn0ne | 07/13/08

I disagree... techboy_z | 07/14/08

R..E. Venn diagrams softdrat@... | 07/15/08

Microsoft needs to drop Yahoo! and get back to business. Randalllind | 07/13/08

A few people have it right... Sleeper Service | 07/13/08

t-shirt TedKraan | 07/14/08

Fair enough... Sleeper Service | 07/14/08

Exactly: XweAponX | 07/13/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? ramnet@... | 07/14/08

Marketing = communications Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

I Think His is a Customer Perspective That is Not Being Listened To Cardhu | 07/18/08

More FUD dprozzo | 07/15/08

Read My Above Post Cardhu | 07/18/08

Why should I bother when.... dprozzo | 07/21/08

If You Bothered To Read And Think, You Might Realize That Cardhu | 07/22/08

You didn't dprozzo | 07/22/08

You Post Distractions Cardhu | 07/22/08

Vista Game Performance Issues Cardhu | 07/23/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? lawryll@... | 07/14/08

You don't use full text search? Ed Bott

| 07/14/08

By admitting that Vista is a mistake.... dunn@... | 07/21/08

It Will Take Much More Than A Great Big Bandaid Cardhu | 07/22/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? mjkarlin@... | 07/22/08

The first step to recovery... bricar2 | 07/23/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? atari8bit@... | 07/23/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? lcarliner@... | 07/23/08

I Agree With All Of Mr. Bott's Suggestions Cardhu | 07/24/08

A great summary of all my Microsoft bashing Ole Man | 07/28/08

Don't I Usually Agree Cardhu | 07/29/08

Yes, and I with you Ole Man | 08/11/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? ramnet@... | 07/31/08

RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism? stdo57@... | 08/06/08

I Suggest You Check Your Spelling Cardhu | 08/09/08

The point you completely miss... Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

I'm Not Disavowing The Role of Value-Added Resellers Cardhu | 08/09/08

They are allowed to continue distributing XP Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

Public Sources Contradict Your Assertions Cardhu | 08/09/08

You need different sources Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

Something Smells Really Off Here Cardhu | 08/09/08

Go look at the OEM license agreement Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

You're Resting Your Comments On Supposed Rights Cardhu | 08/09/08

What you fail to understand Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

I Do Understand That Cardhu | 08/10/08

Now you're changing your argument Ed Bott

| 08/10/08

No, They're Actually Both Facets Of Microsoft's Violations Cardhu | 08/10/08

I Have Researched As You Suggested Cardhu | 08/13/08

You're almost there Ed Bott

| 08/13/08

I Think This Is Incorrect Cardhu | 08/14/08

That quote is confusing Ed Bott

| 08/14/08

That Requires That I Trust Microsoft Cardhu | 08/15/08

I am committed to the facts Ed Bott

| 08/15/08

I Remember Someone Else Who Used to Cite "Random Posts" Cardhu | 08/15/08

10-year plan? Ed Bott

| 08/09/08

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