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An eMachine? And you wonder why it ran like crap? My HP laptop runs Vista better than it runs XP
Posted by: dave01010101   Posted on: 07/11/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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For what?  tonymcs@... | 07/10/08
Oh come on!  TripleII | 07/10/08
Oh come on yourself!  toadlife | 07/10/08
Vista's launch compared to XPs  gtimchishen | 07/11/08
MS Did  LiquidLearner | 07/11/08
You're correct  notsofast | 07/11/08
XP is NOT Vista is NOT XP  XweAponX | 07/13/08
XP problems  Ian_ | 07/13/08
Your memory is a little faulty  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
MS still shares some of the blame  Michael Kelly | 07/11/08
NO, you come on...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
Not necessarily ...  mwagner@... | 07/11/08
Yes, necessarily...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
Two questions  Badgered | 07/11/08
Two answers  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
good lord....  ivanotter | 07/11/08
I'm not buying your story  marks055@... | 07/11/08
I don't care what you buy, fanboy  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/12/08
well...  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/12/08
well...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08
I beg to differ.  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/12/08
Upgrade whole machine ?  Devonmcnulty@... | 09/06/08
lots of questionnable developments in this path  stevey_d | 07/11/08
Fair enough...  Ben_E | 07/11/08
I disagree  voska1 | 07/11/08
I disagree...  ivanotter | 07/11/08
Keeping perspective  fenex@... | 07/12/08
Assuming you are correct  Freebird54 | 07/12/08
So what you're saying then...  konkreet | 07/14/08
Ok Then  dave01010101 | 07/11/08
THe point of the eMachine is...  TripleII | 07/11/08
Your examples...  Ben_E | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08
I agree with this  DonBurnett | 07/11/08
Well said  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/16/08
i love pain  jiagebusen | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  don.overton@... | 07/10/08
If the job is so difficult, they should find...  bjbrock | 07/10/08
If I still develop OS components can I complain? (NT)  TripleII | 07/10/08
It can't be that hard...  gtdworak | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08
Wow  Bob_BLC | 07/11/08
0 issues???  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08
Yet again  TedKraan | 07/14/08
Microsoft's Fault  Cardhu | 07/14/08
Yeah...  ivanotter | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08
Hehe, reminds me of iPhone fanboys  NonZealot | 07/13/08
As if Apple code Darwin  timiteh | 07/11/08
Aye?  Kaiwai | 07/12/08
The answer is because MS limits themselves  Michael Kelly | 07/11/08
Apple's job is much easier ...  mwagner@... | 07/11/08
Linux's job is just as difficult as MS's job  TedKraan | 07/14/08
Vastly superior  marks055@... | 07/12/08
I'm with you on this  Crestview | 07/12/08
Ed, see what happens when you cross a fanboy?  bmerc | 07/11/08
But I never kick my dog  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Hey, I also said I think you're a great writer...  bmerc | 07/11/08
If I only I had a clever insult ...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Keeping the brain active in retirment?  martin23 | 07/14/08
If it weren't for Vista...  Kromaethius | 07/10/08
Your type of experience is in the minority.  bjbrock | 07/10/08
You're joking aren't you?  MyBlueRex | 07/10/08
Spurious.  A Grain of Salt | 07/10/08
Dude you are smoking something!  Martin_Australia | 07/10/08
I must admit I've been out of Aus for 18 months  A Grain of Salt | 07/11/08
When will this myth die?  NonZealot | 07/10/08
I'm not complaining about Vista  A Grain of Salt | 07/11/08
Vista does face stiff competition  NonZealot | 07/11/08
It's only sold 140....  Bob_BLC | 07/11/08
Specious again...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
Big difference between a store run by Apple called  James Quinn | 07/11/08
Perhaps  Badgered | 07/11/08
Lets be fair....  James Quinn | 07/11/08
@James Quinn  Ben_E | 07/13/08
re: Let's be fair  Badgered | 07/14/08
I wouldn't say never  soonerproud | 07/11/08
NonZealot, he was commenting on the poster's comments about retail sales  bmerc | 07/11/08
wrong place (nt)  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
Yup, right on!  Kromaethius | 07/10/08
Because they don't know any differently  professordnm | 07/11/08
You seem to be joking  TtfnJohn | 07/11/08
No, we cannot. At least not until such time as YOU can demonstrate...  ye | 07/11/08
Don't be stupid Ye, you know better  bmerc | 07/11/08
Strawman. Notice what I wrote and not what you said:  ye | 07/11/08
lol  TedKraan | 07/14/08
Still talking in circles, ye...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
And the Macintosh? Apple is just this little unknown company?  ye | 07/11/08
Apple's growing, ye...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
@b8375629: I don't have to tell you anything.  ye | 07/11/08
140 million is YOUR claim, ye...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
@b8375629: 140 million is not my number. It's Bill Gates' number:  ye | 07/14/08
Here we go again...  bmerc | 07/11/08
Yes, here we go with the fantasies again.  ye | 07/11/08
Any facts to support the INITIAL claim that they are?  bmerc | 07/11/08
The facts are MS has stated they have sold over...  ye | 07/11/08
Lets take a look @ some other numbers...  mrlinux | 07/14/08
I Understand (part of) your pain, but...  Kromaethius | 07/10/08
Good for you happy  mrlinux | 07/14/08
That may be true, but this day and...  Kromaethius | 07/15/08
You are missing the point...  mrlinux | 07/15/08
This is Vista Today  richm10@... | 07/19/08
maybe not for free but the price is an issue  marks055@... | 07/10/08
I Agree...  Kromaethius | 07/11/08
those who haven't tried it, learned, it, or at least studied it  bmerc | 07/11/08
Having a problem comprehending?  Kromaethius | 07/11/08
There will always be unhappy whiners  Crestview | 07/12/08
I Agree...  Kromaethius | 07/12/08
So how's game performance?  TedKraan | 07/14/08
I gotta tell ya!  Kromaethius | 07/14/08
lol.. nice reference  TedKraan | 07/25/08
The problem is not Vista per se.  bjbrock | 07/10/08
Configuring a network a nightmare compared  marks055@... | 07/10/08
Nah, he's got a point  TedKraan | 07/14/08
The problem is Microsoft, not Vista...  BillDem | 07/10/08
Did you mess yourself up , Dude?  dprozzo | 07/10/08
Crippled versions vs Full OS for a fair price  BillDem | 07/11/08
A Question for you  Kaiwai | 07/12/08
Answers for you =)  BillDem | 07/14/08
Sorry!? for What...  Windows Defender | 07/10/08
Ed, impressive how you have drawn the defenders.  TripleII | 07/10/08
So if everyone were to say that Linux is unstable, crashes...  ye | 07/11/08
As long as you're defending...  TtfnJohn | 07/11/08
Yes, let's be real. When will you start?  ye | 07/11/08
And once again, Ye denies the possibility...  bmerc | 07/11/08
Where?  ye | 07/11/08
Right here...  bmerc | 07/11/08
@bmerc: Again I ask: Where?  ye | 07/11/08
Ah, but the difference is...  bmerc | 07/11/08
Nor are they true of Vista.  ye | 07/11/08
Would I let them go unchallenged?  bmerc | 07/11/08
Nice cop out. What about "some guy" in talkbacks?  ye | 07/11/08
It's my own personal experience.  TripleII | 07/11/08
You're better than many. But you're still spreading FUD. Such as:  ye | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08
I don't care if it's "in line with everyone else". What I care about is...  ye | 07/13/08
Too simplistic  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
I don't get it  TedKraan | 07/14/08
All of the above (nt)  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
Try PowerShell  Kerry from BC | 07/11/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08
"Never Apologise. Friends will forgive you and enemies wont believe you."  BanjoPaterson | 07/10/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/11/08
What a defense!  John L. Ries | 07/11/08
RE: What a defense!  Windows Defender | 07/11/08
An apology from Balmer?  TripleII | 07/10/08
Doesn't love mean never having to say you're sorry?  Mac Hosehead | 07/10/08
Microsoft as rudderless and unable to deliver a competent product  Jeremy W | 07/10/08
So how is my good experience with Vista explained?  Martin_Australia | 07/10/08
See it as a dice.  TedKraan | 07/11/08
Perhaps you could....  Jeremy W | 07/11/08
RE:...good experience with Vista explained?, needed  n0neXn0ne | 07/11/08
I won five dollars off a scratch-off ticket yesterday...  bmerc | 07/11/08
Which is it ????  mrlinux | 07/15/08
Which is it ????  GiMMeABreak | 07/16/08
My Vista experience has been nothing but positive  NonZealot | 07/10/08
Thats been my experience  marks055@... | 07/10/08
Vista on phones next?  kraterz | 07/10/08
Think BIGGER. Think big.. Think really BIG. THINK REALLY REALY BIG  TedKraan | 07/14/08
That is a VERY VERY scary thought  GrimmReaperSound | 07/14/08
They need to be creative and even funny  marks055@... | 07/10/08
First Impression  TedKraan | 07/11/08
Brand recovery options  johnfenjackson@... | 07/11/08
Yup, options  TedKraan | 07/11/08
Microsoft deleting Firefox. Should they say...  bjbrock | 07/11/08
Re: Microsoft deleting Firefox - Pure Nonsense.  cnfrisch | 07/11/08
actually, no the STORY is correct, just the headline is false.  bmerc | 07/11/08
Haha, thanks for the perfect example!  NonZealot | 07/11/08
End-user reporting ...  dkawalec | 07/11/08
No, and neither did they. But that didn't keep them from publishing...  ye | 07/11/08
Just lower the price and take the stock drop on the chin.  solomonrex | 07/11/08
Vista is only a symptom  Chad_z | 07/11/08
The best way to get MS to shape up  frgough | 07/11/08
Probably...  Jeremy W | 07/11/08
The answer is easy: fix it and make it cost-effective  terry flores | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  gjs16@... | 07/11/08
Causes for BSOD  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Video Drivers.  joe.smetona@... | 07/11/08
Update your drivers and apply sp1 (NT)  soonerproud | 07/11/08
why?  gdstark13 | 07/11/08
Perception, Truth, Fact and FUD  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Only "some" of fault OEMs'? Please!  ParrotHeadFL | 07/11/08
I have  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Of course  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Yes, but...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Can't disagree with you there.  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Good question  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
OEM vendors can share some of the blame  mystic100 | 07/11/08
Has anyone said otherwise?  ye | 07/11/08
I agree  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Get ready to rumble  Chiatzu | 07/12/08
Same here  B.Beck | 07/11/08
More than drivers  Boykin01 | 07/11/08
Recognizing where the balme belongs  B.Beck | 07/11/08
It was a win-win for everone but Microsoft.  Boykin01 | 07/11/08
right  TedKraan | 07/14/08
True  Windows Defender | 07/11/08
they are forced anyways  TedKraan | 07/14/08
Nuke all WGA/activation and DRM  scott1329 | 07/11/08
The myth of DRM  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Try to play a blue-ray movie on any other OS  Kerry from BC | 07/11/08
Sorry, you're wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
RE: Sorry, you're wrong  Kerry from BC | 07/11/08
It works better with Linux.  TripleII | 07/11/08
Bypassing DRM is not an option for a corporation  Kerry from BC | 07/11/08
Blu-Ray movies for business?  TripleII | 07/12/08
Agree...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  reapur | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  RaydioDr | 07/11/08
Glass is only 3/4 full  w_c_mead | 07/11/08
Generally agree  John L. Ries | 07/11/08
Generally agree  aussieblnd@... | 07/11/08
If it was...  John L. Ries | 07/11/08
Agree with John L.  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Why admins don't like Vista  gmiller@... | 07/11/08
Even if it doesn't "suck," why should I want it?  ernestm@... | 07/11/08
How about improved security?  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Our security's not giving us any issues...  ernestm@... | 07/11/08
Supporting old OSs  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Change focus from criticism to Users' Challenges  SteveMak | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  Tom in Toronto | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  morwen | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  drf999 | 07/11/08
How about having one version?  RocketEater | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  deanyourfriendinzdnet | 07/11/08
They should forget salvaging Vista and move on.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08
So what would you suggest?  Michael Kelly | 07/11/08
how about a security level between "make me mad" and "no security"?  stevey_d | 07/11/08
Neither  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08
A heck of a lot easier said than done  Michael Kelly | 07/14/08
No change in driver models  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
agreed, and they should listen to small developers  stevey_d | 07/11/08
So I'll take that as a vote for Vista 2 (nt)  Michael Kelly | 07/11/08
What should MS sell in the mean time?  John L. Ries | 07/11/08
80% of all Windows sales  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/08
Eat Your Crow First Buddy  itanalyst2@... | 07/13/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  mwagner@... | 07/11/08
I agree  B.Beck | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  akaltman@... | 07/11/08
All OSes are works in progress  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/11/08
Vista was oversold and under-delivered  stevey_d | 07/11/08
Maintenance vs. beta  akaltman@... | 07/14/08
Cluelessness  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  cameljockey | 07/11/08
Yeah I think Core Duo and 2 gig of ram is a minimum  stevey_d | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  Mikey52 | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  mystic100 | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  parks_gloria | 07/11/08
This is the norm  B.Beck | 07/11/08
'for what?' was a good start  inertman@... | 07/11/08
Perception Of Vista  StPatrick56 | 07/11/08
Good Post  B.Beck | 07/11/08
Oops  B.Beck | 07/11/08
"Sorta" New  StPatrick56 | 07/11/08
Perception Of Vista  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/11/08
"Buy An Apple"  StPatrick56 | 07/11/08
Well let's see...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/12/08
OR....  StPatrick56 | 07/12/08
please point out  rtk | 07/12/08
More red herrings again...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08
not just thick, color blind as well  rtk | 07/13/08
Clear out the cobwebs, rtk...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/13/08
yeah, nice try,  rtk | 07/13/08
Whoopsy-Daisy! grin  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/14/08
RE: My BlueRex  tkepner | 07/11/08
Networking  Windows Defender | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  larryarms737 | 07/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  drprodny | 07/11/08
Nonsense  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/12/08
It's what I've come to expect from most Linux / Mac users in...  ye | 07/13/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/13/08
Had I said that you might have a point. Since I did not you just...  ye | 07/14/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  alxnsc@... | 07/12/08
Ed admits to lying about Vista!  devlin_X | 07/12/08
Let's see some quotes, please  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/12/08
Your quotes sir....  devlin_X | 07/13/08
Not really a response  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  dawsobi@... | 07/12/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  dawsobi@... | 07/12/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  barend@... | 07/12/08
Microsoft Should Fight Vista Critics With More Advertising  chessmen | 07/12/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  chris_x | 07/12/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  TheSickEmpire | 07/12/08
RE: How ... criticism?  n0neXn0ne | 07/13/08
Vista Premium Ready = ULCPC  softdrat@... | 07/12/08
Venn diagrams  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/08
re: ... ?  n0neXn0ne | 07/13/08
I disagree...  techboy_z | 07/14/08
R..E. Venn diagrams  softdrat@... | 07/15/08
Microsoft needs to drop Yahoo! and get back to business.  Randalllind | 07/13/08
A few people have it right...  Sleeper Service | 07/13/08
t-shirt  TedKraan | 07/14/08
Fair enough...  Sleeper Service | 07/14/08
Exactly:  XweAponX | 07/13/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  ramnet@... | 07/14/08
Marketing = communications  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
I Think His is a Customer Perspective That is Not Being Listened To  Cardhu | 07/18/08
More FUD  dprozzo | 07/15/08
Read My Above Post  Cardhu | 07/18/08
Why should I bother when....  dprozzo | 07/21/08
If You Bothered To Read And Think, You Might Realize That  Cardhu | 07/22/08
You didn't  dprozzo | 07/22/08
You Post Distractions  Cardhu | 07/22/08
Vista Game Performance Issues  Cardhu | 07/23/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  lawryll@... | 07/14/08
You don't use full text search?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/14/08
By admitting that Vista is a mistake....  dunn@... | 07/21/08
It Will Take Much More Than A Great Big Bandaid  Cardhu | 07/22/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  mjkarlin@... | 07/22/08
The first step to recovery...  bricar2 | 07/23/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  atari8bit@... | 07/23/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  lcarliner@... | 07/23/08
I Agree With All Of Mr. Bott's Suggestions  Cardhu | 07/24/08
A great summary of all my Microsoft bashing  Ole Man | 07/28/08
Don't I Usually Agree  Cardhu | 07/29/08
Yes, and I with you  Ole Man | 08/11/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  ramnet@... | 07/31/08
RE: How should Microsoft fight Vista criticism?  stdo57@... | 08/06/08
I Suggest You Check Your Spelling  Cardhu | 08/09/08
The point you completely miss...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
I'm Not Disavowing The Role of Value-Added Resellers  Cardhu | 08/09/08
They are allowed to continue distributing XP  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
Public Sources Contradict Your Assertions  Cardhu | 08/09/08
You need different sources  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
Something Smells Really Off Here  Cardhu | 08/09/08
Go look at the OEM license agreement  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
You're Resting Your Comments On Supposed Rights  Cardhu | 08/09/08
What you fail to understand  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08
I Do Understand That  Cardhu | 08/10/08
Now you're changing your argument  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/10/08
No, They're Actually Both Facets Of Microsoft's Violations  Cardhu | 08/10/08
I Have Researched As You Suggested  Cardhu | 08/13/08
You're almost there  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
I Think This Is Incorrect  Cardhu | 08/14/08
That quote is confusing  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/14/08
That Requires That I Trust Microsoft  Cardhu | 08/15/08
I am committed to the facts  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/15/08
I Remember Someone Else Who Used to Cite "Random Posts"  Cardhu | 08/15/08
10-year plan?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/09/08

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