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All depends on your purpose  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
All I did was remove unwanted programs.  ye | 05/09/08
Which is why...  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
It's your opinion  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
I may have to try again  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
I encourage you to do just that  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
SP1 brings Vista out of BETA  toadlife | 05/09/08
The Market Has Spoken, Vista Sucks  chessmen | 05/10/08
LOL. I guess it is the perception thing again  GuidingLight | 05/11/08
Even If Vista Gets Fixed, Is It Worth It?  chessmen | 05/12/08
Microsoft good at marketing?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/13/08
What does that prove?  garry_k@... | 05/11/08
Sounds like Ed is on to something  daMan25 | 05/12/08
LOL! I can't believe you think other OSes don't require...  ye | 05/09/08
Preloads should not require fixing...  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
Two things:  ye | 05/09/08
I agree: Preloads should not require fixing.  GuidingLight | 05/11/08
Maybe it's a problem with some people  garry_k@... | 05/11/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  ross2000 | 05/09/08
My point exactly (nt)  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
I guess we're both the luckiest people in the world.  ye | 05/09/08
Come come now  klumper | 05/10/08
You are right, although...  ross2000 | 05/10/08
I'll go one better  klumper | 05/10/08
Windows ME eh?  garry_k@... | 05/11/08
Perception matters - and the masses spoke  klumper | 05/12/08
I'm with you there ross  salah.ahmed@... | 05/12/08
OS X 10.4 works fine for me  bmeacham98@... | 05/09/08
Why are proprietary OSes of such poor quality.  TripleII | 05/09/08
Complexity  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
Further Beta testing...  Wolfie2K3 | 05/10/08
Vista beta testing  devlin_X | 05/10/08
The "undoing" has nothing to do with Vista  ye | 05/09/08
That's what I said.  TripleII | 05/09/08
My undoing consisted of going to...  ye | 05/09/08
Did you also RUN the command  Non_Zealot | 05/10/08
Reg cleaning not necessary  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/10/08
Hope you're referring to OEM add-ons only  klumper | 05/10/08
Did I mention that I used regedit?  ye | 05/10/08
10 hours  TripleII | 05/10/08
Someone like yourself  rtk | 05/10/08
No disks, restore partition has same crapware.  TripleII | 05/10/08
Again: What has this to do with Vista?  ye | 05/10/08
See my original point, others included.  TripleII | 05/10/08
And have anti-trust regulators all over them  ye | 05/10/08
You did not...  LiquidLearner | 05/12/08
Also  LiquidLearner | 05/12/08
Defrga is not "constant"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/09/08
The distinction you appear to be having a problem with is...  ye | 05/09/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/09/08
I did? Where? (nt)  ye | 05/10/08
That's just it , and you stated it ye ,,,  Non_Zealot | 05/10/08
Hmmm  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/10/08
the obvious reason  rtk | 05/10/08
Wrong answer!  nancyjones36507@... | 05/14/08
Don't forget Solaris or dependency hell.  Duke E. Love | 05/09/08
RE: Why are proprietary OSes of such poor quality.  richdave | 05/09/08
"Once you get it going"? Did you consult with...  ye | 05/09/08
RE: "Once you get it going"? Did you consult with...  richdave | 05/09/08
It was a jab at John L. Ries and not you. (nt)  ye | 05/10/08
Linspire is junk  John L. Ries | 05/10/08
"Little or no trouble with a Linux system once it's set up."  ye | 05/10/08
Linspire  whooliebacon | 05/10/08
Upgrading too.  TripleII | 05/10/08
SOP or Coincidence?  DannyO_0x98 | 05/10/08
That is an interesting theory.  TripleII | 05/10/08
you are just unambitious  zupobaloop | 05/14/08
You're kidding right?  gtdworak | 05/09/08
Not entirely fair  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
Thanks, but...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
Could say much the same...  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
Message has been deleted.  MacCanuck | 05/12/08
Hey MacCanuck.  xuniL_z | 05/13/08
So typical  Vesicant | 05/09/08
He has to be  FreeTibet | 05/09/08
You're funny!  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 05/09/08
RE: You're funny!  Axsimulate | 05/09/08
Decades!  TechExec2 | 05/12/08
Decades  Axsimulate | 05/15/08
So you're the lone Vista user!  comp_indiana | 05/13/08
So, you are the lone non-Vista user!  xuniL_z | 05/13/08
MS Shill  Axsimulate | 05/15/08
I'll only give it a 4  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
Question  Stan57 | 05/10/08
Why toss Linux in at the end.  storm14k | 05/09/08
Linux fans swear Linux just works.  ye | 05/09/08
Lame attempt  storm14k | 05/09/08
Lame attempt? You just made my point.  ye | 05/09/08
Liar  soonerproud | 05/10/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/10/08
Yes I am saying that  soonerproud | 05/13/08
Try several thousand PCs  xuniL_z | 05/13/08
O RLY?  Barmaglot | 05/11/08
Those examples are pretty lame (nt)  none none | 05/09/08
We're in agreement. Those posts are lame.  ye | 05/10/08
No, you must concede on point.  TripleII | 05/10/08
No, I don't have to concede that point.  ye | 05/10/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/10/08
Those tests also showed Vista faster than XP on...  ye | 05/10/08
Ye never concedes anything (NT)  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
I don't? Then what do you call this:  ye | 05/12/08
Easy mistake to make  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
@John L. Ries: Not if you bother to read and understand...  ye | 05/12/08
Hardly a concession  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 05/12/08
We're not in agreement  none none | 05/11/08
A lot escapes you.  ye | 05/11/08
Well, no...  Henry Miller | 05/12/08
hell, EVERYTHING needs fixing now and then!  lostarchitect | 05/09/08
Not according to ABMers.  ye | 05/09/08
Maybe you can let us speak for ourselves  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
I already gave two examples. Here they are again:  ye | 05/09/08
Not claims of no problems  John L. Ries | 05/09/08
Look up the word "implied"  ye | 05/10/08
Look up the word "reaching"  MacCanuck | 05/12/08
@MacCanuck: Repeating something ad infinitum...  ye | 05/12/08
After all the beta testing and delays...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 05/12/08
sure, some do.  lostarchitect | 05/09/08
That would be welcome.  ye | 05/10/08
But you won't stop...  sceptical | 05/10/08
We'll see should I ever start.  ye | 05/11/08
You haven't answered my question.  sceptical | 05/11/08
@msalzberg: Should I ever start perhaps I could answer your question.  ye | 05/11/08
There was an article in the NY Times..  sceptical | 05/11/08
@msalzberg: You can't help being in denial.  ye | 05/11/08
RE: hell, everything needs fixing...  bfilipiak@... | 05/12/08
You tell 'em Ed wink btw Linux next!  klumper | 05/09/08
Wow Ed someone hit a sore spot?  devlin_X | 05/09/08
Eh, can hardly blame him  beoz | 05/09/08
Ed's proof???  martin23 | 05/12/08
Sore spots...  Wolfie2K3 | 05/10/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  robdern | 05/09/08
Got some facts to support that allegation?  ye | 05/09/08
Try APE issues  MacCanuck | 05/12/08
All this proves is that a subset of Mac issues are realted to...  ye | 05/12/08
thats actually very true...  doh123 | 05/10/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  UrbanBard | 05/09/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  g_keramidas@... | 05/09/08
Microsoft's not listening...?  Wolfie2K3 | 05/10/08
Why do you put up with this, Bott?  outsidewhale | 05/09/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  none none | 05/09/08
why is this controversial?  marks055@... | 05/10/08
Break granted.  johnfenjackson@... | 05/10/08
Good old Ed...  Jeremy W | 05/10/08
As if Mac platform is even comparable to Windows platform for most users  timiteh | 05/10/08
If he's going to spread FUD at least he could make it believable.  ye | 05/10/08
My heart breaks...  TucsonGuy | 05/13/08
Fundamental assumption of post is incorrect  Jeremy W | 05/11/08
Most of your post is wrong, or simply opinion.  rtk | 05/11/08
Could please be a bit objective please  timiteh | 05/11/08
I don't think Jeremy W can understand you  ibarskiy@... | 05/12/08
RE:I don't think Jeremy W can understand you  timiteh | 05/12/08
That's the point  B.Beck | 05/12/08
Re: As if Mac platform is even comparable to Windows platform for most user  none none | 05/11/08
What about professional/enterprise stuff ?  timiteh | 05/11/08
Are you the only...  sceptical | 05/11/08
No but i am quite representative of computer related enterprise user  timiteh | 05/11/08
I'm sorry I misunderstood you.  sceptical | 05/11/08
Re: I'm sorry I misunderstood you.  timiteh | 05/12/08
Again, you sound like..  sceptical | 05/12/08
Re:Again, you sound like..  timiteh | 05/12/08
really?  Badgered | 05/12/08
Questions to flamers  pfyearwood | 05/10/08
"...does it really matter what OS a person uses?"  Userama | 05/10/08
LOL, As you pray to the Jobs God!! NT. wink  bka1959 | 05/10/08
Let's do a little comparison.  frgough | 05/10/08
If only  rtk | 05/10/08
You Tu Quoque fallacy is much  frgough | 05/10/08
My tu quoque argument  rtk | 05/10/08
Tu Quoque  frgough | 05/12/08
I agree  Badgered | 05/12/08
I think you need to read your original post.  rtk | 05/12/08
That's par for the course  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 05/13/08
hint  rtk | 05/13/08
No, I was responding to frgough  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 05/13/08
Someone learned a new word!  ye | 05/11/08
Ad hominem  frgough | 05/12/08
Yes I'm very well versed with ad hominems since ABMers...  ye | 05/12/08
Since we're the root of all evil  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
@John L. Ries: Criticism is fine. FUD is not.  ye | 05/12/08
And what fear, uncertainty, or doubt...  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
@John L. Ries: Here are a couple:  ye | 05/12/08
That of which you are ignorant...  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
That's good advice. I suggest you follow it.  ye | 05/12/08
Some of you need to switch to decaf  RunSilent23 | 05/10/08
comming soon  issam.net | 05/10/08
Apple does not have enough employess to do both fix hardware and software  progon | 05/10/08
A few mistakes in your rant  woot! | 05/12/08
A few mistakes in your rant  woot! | 05/12/08
Oh, come on...  Henry Miller | 05/12/08
You don't have to do anything with Vista.  ye | 05/12/08
That's my point...  Henry Miller | 05/12/08
You don't have to tune it. The suggestions...  ye | 05/12/08
For Christ's sakes ye  klumper | 05/12/08
Whoa there! Power users?  ye | 05/12/08
Both, as imitation = the sincerest form of flattery  klumper | 05/12/08
Why the ZDNet conspriacy??  xuniL_z | 05/12/08
The kernel of OS X is not the same one they've used...  ye | 05/12/08
This is just a misunderstanding over dialect  IMS_Scott | 05/12/08
re: This is just a misunderstanding  Badgered | 05/12/08
lol  rtk | 05/12/08
Cumulative Effect  Harry Bardal | 05/12/08
Complexity redux... (a bit OT)  astro_z | 05/12/08
Macs don't need so much fixing  The Mad Hatter | 05/12/08
Ed isn't onto something, he's just making a living  james.faction | 05/12/08
Your logic fails apart  rtk | 05/12/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  creep144 | 05/12/08
Poorly worded  cfischer83@... | 05/12/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  dmilne@... | 05/13/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  rjonesthree@... | 05/13/08
Spin spin spin.  rtk | 05/13/08
Ed can't list a single aspect of Mac OS X that needs fixing!  comp_indiana | 05/13/08
Message has been deleted.  rtk | 05/13/08
I like Vista  abear4562 | 05/14/08
Just went back to Vista x64 SP1  rkostynu@... | 05/14/08
typo..  rkostynu@... | 05/14/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  nancyjones36507@... | 05/14/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  barbose | 05/14/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  Clewin | 05/16/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  hdinin | 05/16/08
Literally every time I have tried to use a mac  gtg781w | 05/20/08
RE: Why do Macs need so much fixing?  jcalamita | 05/20/08
**How Much Will You Sell It For Then ??**  MBF | 06/04/08
Tool Using Primates  HexHammer67 | 06/07/08

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