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I took the poll - one source that was not mentioned was the prevalence of CDs (or DVD's for that matter) that are at your local library. You check them out for your personal use $0 to the recording industry from you - other than the tiny portion of your tax $ or less if it was donated- and following somewhat bizzare right of use laws a burned copy is.... what ? Theft?
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Missing information.  Anton Philidor | 10/17/07
What  Blogsworth | 10/17/07
Huh?  voska | 10/17/07
As phrased...  Anton Philidor | 10/17/07
Fair use against the WISHES of the RIAA  electro@... | 10/18/07
you are referring to what law  Update victim | 10/19/07
The RIAA is a lawmaking body?  legalista | 10/22/07
Fair use is a thing of the past  LesN | 10/22/07
So the DMCA includes Fair Use?  LesN | 10/22/07
not according to our law!  ariepert | 10/17/07
Actually, so do we here in the lower 48  maldain | 10/17/07
You're right about Canada. For now.  Anton Philidor | 10/17/07
It's a perfectly legitimate phrasing.  Resuna | 10/18/07
The question, as asked...  Dr. John | 10/18/07
How significant is illegality?  Anton Philidor | 10/18/07
not at all.  lostarchitect | 10/19/07
"Words may be many, and yet not to the point."  Anton Philidor | 10/19/07
And never the twain shall meet  Ole Man | 10/19/07
The thing is....  John L. Ries | 10/19/07
Well...  Anton Philidor | 10/19/07
your a riaa puppet obviously.  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
I think the DMCA should be modified...  Anton Philidor | 10/18/07
Gosh, we agree on this. I never thought it would happen. (NT)  Update victim | 10/19/07
About my motives...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/19/07
You did address how the questions were written, yes.  Anton Philidor | 10/19/07
The law  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/21/07
Okay.  Anton Philidor | 10/22/07
Please READ the Copyright Laws!  Sinbad713 | 10/27/07
Personal use includes sharing: Visual Studio and Rational Application Dev  mighetto | 11/01/07
Libraries  Jim888 | 10/17/07
Obvious Answer  soonerproud | 10/17/07
I disagree -  spacecase2 | 10/17/07
Wrong  soonerproud | 10/18/07
And that's the whole problem...  spacecase2 | 10/18/07
Addendum  thx-1138_@... | 10/18/07
No theft to copy rented material or material from library, it just depends  s_souche | 10/18/07
Copying Library Copies  ken.ryan@... | 10/18/07
man.. whats next.. outlawing media in libraries?  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
Errr  thx-1138_@... | 10/18/07
Obvious answer?  legalista | 10/22/07
Gift giving?  John Zern | 10/17/07
We should have rights to the libraries music...because  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
Oh please, can we get over this  mdemuth | 10/17/07
good point but...  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
Just Because you paid a bit dosn't meen you own it  theameoba@... | 10/18/07
Of course you do  ZenaPrincess | 10/22/07
Copyright understanding  voska | 10/17/07
wow  JT82 | 10/17/07
actually some of them  Protector | 10/18/07
if the founders thought like you  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
If...  spacecase2 | 10/17/07
I'd say no one  voska | 10/18/07
smoking pot  bmeacham98@... | 10/18/07
Speaking as another creator...  Resuna | 10/18/07
Your hurting the copyright owner  satovey@... | 10/18/07
Who stopped you?  Update victim | 10/19/07
Not hurting you at all  Marcwolf1960 | 10/21/07
Conditional  Update victim | 10/19/07
RE:Digital media ethics: it's personal  soonerproud | 10/17/07
DCMA must go  JT82 | 10/17/07
Why do a honest buck?  Mectron | 10/17/07
There will never be no crime.  Brass FR | 10/18/07
True for the most part  thx-1138_@... | 10/18/07
Re: RE:Digital media ethics: it's personal  none none | 10/17/07
Fair Use Clause  mgrubb@... | 10/18/07
And you can bet they got paid for it too!  crawdad2k | 10/18/07
and lots of free music too  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
A brief history of lobbying  Ole Man | 10/18/07
Stone Age  croberts | 10/17/07
DRM is doomed  pmjm@... | 10/18/07
speaking of DRM look what Apple just did  voska | 10/18/07
Not stone age  big red one | 10/18/07
It's worse than that  benwolfe54@... | 10/18/07
On the ironic side of things  John Zern | 10/17/07
thats true  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
2 major problems  mdemuth | 10/17/07
Re: 2 major problems  none none | 10/17/07
2 non-issues  Mectron | 10/17/07
thats true  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
Laws are made by humans.  kraterz | 10/17/07
Soon pirates & criminals will become terrorists  benwolfe54@... | 10/18/07
its already in the patriot act  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  none none | 10/17/07
No legal purpose  Mectron | 10/17/07
Stop buying their stuff  benwolfe54@... | 10/18/07
Don't steal it either  scott1329 | 10/18/07
Amen to that  josephoc@... | 10/18/07
Support local artists  LesN | 10/22/07
From the 70's -  spacecase2 | 10/17/07
Have you ever woken up  Sabz5150 | 10/18/07
Good Point!  thx-1138_@... | 10/18/07
Well I would not want to pay extra for CD's so...  mrOSX | 10/19/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  hugh@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  nmsmith | 10/18/07
And it's that attitude that has run record companies into the ground  Modgirl | 10/18/07
It's a matter of mindset  Bugbyte | 10/18/07
Pay Ford for a new car when I fix the lights?  forwolf@... | 10/18/07
Nice Concept but......  satovey@... | 10/19/07
Money money money  fr0thy | 10/19/07
Well I am from MI too...  mrOSX | 10/19/07
Fair Use  tmccorm | 10/18/07
Having it both ways  jbullar1@... | 10/18/07
Incorrect premise  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  stanleydynamip | 10/18/07
MPAA and RIAA are in the wrong  Dr_Zinj | 10/18/07
What about out of print CDs?  scott1329 | 10/18/07
Follow the money.  Resuna | 10/18/07
Something being out of print doesn't give you any rights  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/18/07
OK, Ed, How about this scenario  Update victim | 10/19/07
I am not a lawyer  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/19/07
Eddd... Sombody Circa 2006ish  Marcwolf1960 | 10/21/07
If I were on the other side, how I'd respond  pinxet | 10/18/07
Just stop buying them!!!  rahn@... | 10/18/07
I avoid them if possible  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/18/07
I did  cywelchjr | 10/18/07
Definition of Insanity  forwolf@... | 10/18/07
simple fix - change the law  007baf | 10/18/07
Ed, so can you report on new institutions that will make RIAA irrelevant?  klassman6 | 10/18/07
Good question  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/18/07
I don't think it matters  TripleII | 10/18/07
Clarification  TripleII | 10/18/07
Perpetual Inventories?  pinxet | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  hrosita@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  JaCowboy | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  Brass FR | 10/18/07
CDROMs Are Deteriorating  softwareFlunky | 10/18/07
Deteriorating Media  Marcwolf1960 | 10/21/07
I am buying the MUSIC itself, not so much the "physical item"  roseman- | 10/18/07
I am buying the MUSIC itself, not so much the  roseman- | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  bob.martinez@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  madrucke@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  Bgcooley@... | 10/18/07
Those links to the RIAA site...  KWierso | 10/18/07
Those links to the RIAA site...  KWierso | 10/18/07
When i buy a cd, it gets ripped to my hd.  Been_Done_Before | 10/18/07
The RIAA and Ethics  crawdad2k | 10/18/07
Simple Solution  timbrady1124@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  joergsattler | 10/18/07
RIAA and similar schemes  joergsattler | 10/18/07
Laws are not built for the little guy anymore  Protector | 10/18/07
Have another big mac  challass@... | 10/18/07
The problem is unrealistic laws...  russc@... | 10/18/07
Impractical Enforcement  gwliston | 10/18/07
Lets Talk about what i get for my money  Fridolyn | 10/18/07
Two Comments ...  msdead | 10/18/07
you got me wrong  Fridolyn | 10/18/07
Then if our media is damaged, they should replace it free of charge  sewfine@... | 10/18/07
no necessarily  Fridolyn | 10/18/07
Not less than the first CD!?  Leria | 10/18/07
Re: Not less than the first CD!?  gwliston | 10/18/07
no, i dont ask them to replace the medai for free  Fridolyn | 10/18/07
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE,IT'S THE LAW  BALTHOR | 10/18/07
this is a discussion based on asking consumers...  pcguy777 | 10/18/07
Fair use  carlino | 10/18/07
Laws.. Maybe  Marcwolf1960 | 10/21/07
I'd like to put a tax meter on everyones lungs!  RS9 | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  markw53 | 10/18/07
Is Licensing required?  satovey@... | 10/18/07
In conflict such as this, it pays to raise the stakes  lastar84 | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  wes45505@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  mdreer@... | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  WCarlS | 10/18/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  gwliston | 10/18/07
Ethics. (?)  ifooh | 10/18/07
Stretch-the-facts FUD combo in this article???  lamp299 | 10/19/07
Fair Use Act?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 10/19/07
Just a little clarification...  spacecase2 | 10/19/07
RE: Leopard reads scratched CDs  dlmeyer@... | 10/19/07
Whats the difference between the RIAA and Pirates who sell music...  mrOSX | 10/19/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  mhguda@... | 10/19/07
had a cd that suddenly decided not to play, couldn't even rip the tracks  wessonjoe | 10/19/07
Fair Use  carrilion | 10/20/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  rvgunn64@... | 10/21/07
Cutting Off Their Nioses...  ZenaPrincess | 10/22/07
How confused are users......  bluegil | 10/22/07
attacked from both sides  LesN | 10/22/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  james.faction | 10/22/07
RE: Digital media ethics: it's personal  sammy0903 | 03/22/09

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