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I think they need to address performance
Not on new machines with a gig or two of ram, but work to optimize what it can do on older machines. It isn't flying onto people computers, problems or not because people don't want to throw their current computers away (you and I adding memory is no brainer, not to the vast majority). Yes it can run on 512, without aero, etc, but why does it actually need that?

Could Vista's massive preload simply by bypassed and work to load apps ONLY when needed like older version to allow for a reasonable experience on 256 ram (very typical)?

Couldn't they dedicate a team to optimize the crap out of Aero, which is obviously a very overbloated subsystem? Make Aero work with 128 video ram or heck even integrated shared memory video cards, the case for upgrade becomes much easier.

As a side not, I hope that within a year or two, the DRM industry dies the well deserved death it should, and MS decides to remove the CPU hungry DRM subsystem from Vista, further enhancing performance. I think DRM on music may well be dead by then, and here's hoping the hackers of the world keep making the AACS look foolish and that dies too, freeing MS to work on something that benefits the customer.

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I think they need to address performance  TripleII | 06/28/07
What "CPU hungry DRM subsystem"?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
Ask, and ye shall receive  Knorthern Knight | 06/28/07
Did you read the part in that article...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
Peter Gutmann's article  rtk | 06/28/07
Care to provide a few links for the debunks?  zkiwi | 06/28/07
By whom? Where? Show me.....  blue_mcoupe@... | 06/29/07
not worth the effort.  rtk | 06/29/07
Please help us out here...  Jxn | 06/30/07
10 seconds of searching:  ivanotter | 02/27/08
MP3s and mfpmp.exe  TripleII | 06/28/07
And when watching HD content  TripleII | 06/28/07
So don't watch DRM'ed content  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
We are off topic but...  TripleII | 06/28/07
Sure, but  notsofast | 06/29/07
Not really  CobraA1 | 07/03/07
THANK YOU!  NonZealot | 06/28/07
I think that's a bit harsh  filker0 | 06/29/07
What a Computer is FOR  dumptux | 06/29/07
How is that a solution?  bhartman33@... | 01/29/08
I can't reproduce that  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
Understood, you asked why I said that though  TripleII | 06/28/07
Drivers and codecs  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
My experience too  NonZealot | 06/28/07
windows multimedia support is trash. the clean lines of the old media playe  wessonjoe | 07/02/07
Huh?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/07
My problem is...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
mfpmp is the monitoring process  TripleII | 06/28/07
Who says Mfpmp is the "monitoring process"?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
re: Vista Requirements  notsofast | 06/29/07
The case of fatware  dave@... | 07/23/07
Same here  Stan57 | 06/28/07
You forgot  Jxn | 06/30/07
er....  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/07
Vista DRM CPU resource consumption  trentreviso | 06/28/07
Analysis?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
Well, kind of...  Jxn | 06/30/07
no.  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/07
so do i  richvball44 | 07/02/07
By what i have seen...  ivanotter | 02/27/08
Shame on you, Ed Botts!  Old Timer 8080 | 06/29/07
dayum  richvball44 | 07/02/07
You can't even spell my name right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/07
Ed, are you a M$ MOLE at ZDNet?  Old Timer 8080 | 07/16/07
Love your choice of hardware...  Cayble | 07/23/07
Aero requirements are laughable  Stuka | 06/28/07
The real problem with Aero is....  jinko | 06/28/07
Don't want the eye-candy?  mwagner@... | 06/28/07
Not an option  Stuka | 06/28/07
Give Up  uM0p ap!sdn | 06/30/07
Or just turn off Aero  PB_z | 06/28/07
or  richvball44 | 07/02/07
re: The real problem with Aero is....  M.R. Kennedy | 06/28/07
Power hungry video cards?  jedi105@... | 06/29/07
re: Power hungry video cards?  M.R. Kennedy | 07/01/07
Overtime?  CobraA1 | 01/29/08
And when was the last time you saw ...  mwagner@... | 06/28/07
When 10.4 came out  Stuka | 06/28/07
What freakin planet are you from?  ITdaized | 06/29/07
aero runs fine with 512mb of shared ram?  dianecmiles@... | 08/06/08
Mac OS X  belkorin | 06/29/07
You can run OSX (10.4) on 512 MB easily, probably 256  MacGeek2121 | 06/29/07
You could if...  pmshah@... | 07/04/07
10.2  laboye | 07/15/07
MacOSX, 1GB RAM?  filker0 | 06/29/07
my mac  richvball44 | 07/02/07
your mac  laboye | 07/15/07
Oh, the irony of your comment...  SEMW | 06/28/07
Video Card  cywelchjr | 06/29/07
lessee...  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/07
AERO works fine ...  mwagner@... | 06/28/07
Watch this movie... then you will see how far  Linux User 147560 | 06/28/07
Well I guess the silence has the answer I was  Linux User 147560 | 06/29/07
Linux User i can't run Beryl with a gforce fx  SO.CAL Guy | 06/29/07
Minimum requirements to run Beryl  Mitch 74 | 06/29/07
on 64MB VRAM it will  cywelchjr | 06/29/07
howbout this?  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/07
and...  richvball44 | 07/02/07
stop it man,  ITdaized | 06/29/07
and what do you use?  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/07
Windows apps  The_Quietman | 07/16/07
DUH----NO....Vista IS the new ME....  SirCatlord | 07/23/07
Silly.  Cayble | 07/23/07
No one has ever upgraded an OS in numbers  mrjonno | 06/28/07
Microsoft's own estimates  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/28/07
Older coputers in business  trentreviso | 06/28/07
Every business is different  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
You're right about the IRS  maldain | 06/29/07
Actually...  dracolich_prgrm | 06/29/07
I agree . . .  JLHenry | 06/29/07
You hit the Nail on the head  The_Quietman | 07/16/07
Typical government PC life is 6-8 years (or more)  kenneth.kelley@... | 06/29/07
Not True  The_Quietman | 07/16/07
Are some similarities  John L. Ries | 06/28/07
Or not.  Anton Philidor | 06/28/07
Perception  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
People waited outside stores in 1995...  Anton Philidor | 06/28/07
They did it in 2000 too..  pmshah@... | 07/04/07
Perception issues.  Anton Philidor | 06/28/07
Re: Perception  none none | 06/28/07
Go to *-Mart. What do you see for OS choices  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/28/07
And let's not forget...  BitTwiddler | 06/28/07
The next version of Windows  Michael Kelly | 06/28/07
Rely on the emulator.  Anton Philidor | 06/28/07
Driven by marketing  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/28/07
Huh?  slopoke | 06/28/07
Agreed  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
I agree  pmshah@... | 07/04/07
You mean it was all just a dream?  Webmoron99 | 06/29/07
Vista is Best of MS? Best of 6 Years & $10 BILLION? 70,000 Employees?  jbelkin | 06/28/07
Maintaining that backwards compatibility is a *****  Michael Kelly | 06/28/07
Very hard  TripleII | 06/28/07
Agreed  frgough | 06/28/07
Why bother?  NonZealot | 06/28/07
You are quiet wrong  Stuka | 06/28/07
Typo: *Quite* not quiet wink (NT)  Stuka | 06/28/07
Naw, modularized and easier  TripleII | 06/28/07
Why is virtualizing such a bad thing?  MacGeek2121 | 06/29/07
Virtual hardware is lowest common denominator  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
apple did  jjarman | 06/28/07
Consider this before you go into your reasons  intrepi@... | 07/05/07
MS does more than just Windows...  PB_z | 06/28/07
ID10T post above  Confused by religion | 06/28/07
The only ID1OT post I see...  tek_heretik | 06/29/07
You miss the main reason people say Vista is like WinME !!!  jjarman | 06/28/07
There Are More Reasons for the "Me2" Label  dumptux | 06/29/07
flaw  ivanotter | 02/27/08
No...  butler360 | 06/30/07
I'm removing vista this weekend...  BitTwiddler | 06/28/07
Easy  daMan25 | 06/28/07
Wow Ed, I couldn't disagree more ...  mwagner@... | 06/28/07
866MHz!  Grayson Peddie | 06/28/07
Well...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
Never heard of that ever  voska | 06/29/07
don't worry ed, that guy is an obvious idiot  ITdaized | 06/29/07
Correction: Win/95 was running on top of DOS...  Solid Water | 06/28/07
What killed OS/2?  keithc | 06/29/07
That's not how I remember it.  notsofast | 06/29/07
::blink::  Raymond Danner | 06/29/07
HUH?  Robert Crocker | 06/29/07
You Are Correct  dumptux | 06/29/07
95 more stable than 98?!!?! But yes its 3rd parties  dosmastr@... | 06/29/07
Fault for Drivers  DannyO_0x98 | 06/30/07
Exactly right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/30/07
100% right  lukemoloney | 07/02/07
all vista problems are microsoft's fault. they built it. weaselling out of  wessonjoe | 07/02/07
MS-DOS kernel unnecessary?  The_Quietman | 07/16/07
What??!!!!  Dr. John | 07/20/07
If anything, product was under-hyped...  Mike Cox | 06/28/07
I'm switching to Apple...  CowLauncher | 06/28/07
One drop of water hovering in the spray over the "sea"...  Anton Philidor | 06/28/07
Good one, Mr.Philidor  balaknair | 06/29/07
3.0 (and I'  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
3.0 (and I'm being generous)  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/07
7.0  John L. Ries | 06/29/07
Missed the irony?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
Re: Missed the irony  Altiris_Grunt | 06/29/07
5.0  balaknair | 06/29/07
6.5  timpin1@... | 06/29/07
Satire or Shill?  marketmaven | 07/05/07
8.8  jheine | 07/06/07
Uh-oh!  Dr. John | 07/20/07
Article shoudl mention .NET 3.0  PB_z | 06/28/07
OSX, Windows, Linux Distro 2.0  Boot_Agnostic | 06/28/07
A compelling reason??  blue_mcoupe@... | 06/29/07
$3.71??  blue_mcoupe@... | 06/29/07
I am liking Vista  mary@... | 06/29/07
I Agree  bmore_bro69@... | 07/02/07
So wait for the next version of Windows? LOL  Randalllind | 06/29/07
If you're going to paraphrase me, get it right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
Same Old Story  greenteeth | 06/29/07
I disagree  hansonjb | 06/29/07
Wrong - no DRM/activation in W95!  scott1329 | 06/29/07
You're a Noob  bmore_bro69@... | 07/02/07
I don't know what everyone is talking about  jedi105@... | 06/29/07
Wonderful headline! happy  TtfnJohn | 06/29/07
I've been saying this for a while now.  Narg | 06/29/07
Windows 95  jedi105@... | 06/29/07
Fine with Vista for home use  stano360 | 06/29/07
More like "WinX DRM Edition"  brittonv | 06/29/07
DRM in Vista seems like a black hole  jdubow@... | 06/29/07
Black helicopters  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
Which backup tools  jdubow@... | 06/29/07
I'm confused  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
Sorry, I meant to say ITunes  jdubow@... | 06/29/07
I love TrueImage 10  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
10 minutes?  belkorin | 07/03/07
Yes, 10 minutes is correct  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/06/07
Ed, if you're only using 20 gigs...  bmerc | 07/27/07
Even if they don't get "wiped out"  Ole Man | 07/14/07
Anyone love XP x64 as much as I do?  conchchowder | 06/29/07
Message has been deleted.  jaszman | 06/29/07
Very insightful  mbabuskov | 06/29/07
I Like Windows Vista  frj111@... | 06/29/07
First 64-bit OS from Microsoft?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
Well .............  frj111@... | 06/30/07
Vista will drive more people to Linux  kev000 | 06/29/07
2001  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
ubuntu  rebelxhardcore | 06/29/07
I sort of agree with this, because...  D. W. Bierbaum | 06/29/07
Not really  TtfnJohn | 06/29/07
That's what I like about it  Ole Man | 07/14/07
Fix what ever is hogging RAM  rebelxhardcore | 06/29/07
Vista's not perfect but....  rcugini@... | 06/29/07
Five licenses? No way  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/29/07
DRM + Linux + multimedia  rcugini@... | 06/29/07
Mandriva non open source? Not true  TtfnJohn | 06/29/07
Vista is XP 2.0  Resuna | 06/29/07
Opinions opinions and more opinions  Crestview | 06/29/07
I Agree about the direction of Vista  jackie40d@... | 06/29/07
Windows 2000  inxy@... | 06/29/07
There are bugs and problems with Vista???  Information_z | 06/29/07
Vista = buggy/expensive lag, who cares?  tek_heretik | 06/29/07
Technical Pain in _the Past  cstorme64@... | 06/29/07
Exactly  jdickey | 06/29/07
I am quite fine with Vista  nb_bhai@... | 06/30/07
PCS 1110 Issues  A_Robinson | 07/06/07
Good article  nmaclennan | 06/30/07
Xeequa Busines Gadget for Vista  as@... | 06/30/07
If you really think it's ME2 then you're very ignorant people!  qmlscycrajg | 06/30/07
"very ignorant people!"  Ole Man | 07/01/07
My 2 cents  leigh@... | 06/30/07
VISTA let me down  weniggary | 07/01/07
Only 4 words  reerw@... | 07/02/07
stop-gap measure is greatest analogy to ME. just an interim OS to get rid  wessonjoe | 07/02/07
Easy answers to easy questions  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/07
Vista is ME0  johnfenjackson@... | 07/03/07
VISTA is ME0  johnfenjackson@... | 07/03/07
re: Vista is ME0  CobraA1 | 07/03/07
The Cobra strikes  johnfenjackson@... | 07/05/07
re: The Cobra strikes  CobraA1 | 07/05/07
re. The Cobra Strkes  johnfenjackson@... | 07/10/07
VISTA is ME0  johnfenjackson@... | 07/05/07
So, don't buy Vista until 2010 ?  Dr_Zinj | 07/03/07
So many different opinions - will never stop  wifrye@... | 07/03/07
iRiots underway!  ballmerrules@... | 07/03/07
More trash for cash...  mikifinaz1@... | 07/03/07
Upgrading to Vista  summitguy | 07/04/07
Upgrading to Vista  Ole Man | 07/04/07
Worst OS ever  pjwilson1@... | 07/05/07
re: Worst OS ever  CobraA1 | 07/06/07
First thing they need to fix is the Vista EULA...  xunil skcor | 07/05/07
Hey! WinME rated Worse than Bob!  mark@... | 07/05/07
Why not wait for the next Windows OS ?  intrepi@... | 07/05/07
Vista Naivete  wanderson | 07/05/07
restrictions?  saint9121@... | 07/09/07
VISTA  palooka@... | 07/17/07
Bloatware vs elegance  jscace@... | 07/31/07
left out an important issue about Vista branding  chips@... | 01/29/08

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