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Its easy they have their own agenda
its the same people who constantly claim that Windows is unstable, always crashes, and is highly insecure.

as you've clearly shown, someone with even a small amount of computer skills can get windows working without a hitch, ive been using XP since its release, and never seen a BSOD, it never crashes, and ive not have a single problem with popup's or viruses.

the only conclusion you can take from this is they dont know what their doing, or just plain lying.

they are simply posting what their wish is, for the OS, and not what reality is.

im glad you did the test, and proved them to be incompetent IT people who should not be making comments on PC performance regardless of the OS involved.
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Its easy they have their own agenda  TechEngineer | 04/12/07
But he proved they were right and  LittleGuy | 04/12/07
That's where I'll agree  rapson | 04/12/07
Been there, done that  jacec | 04/12/07
and yes, I can count wink  jacec | 04/12/07
Huh?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
The startup log has always been there and Windows ...  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
The startup log has always been there and Windows ...  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
WHAT?!  Jhaks | 04/12/07
No he didn't!  Heatlesssun1 | 04/12/07
Defaults  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
11 seconds versus 5 minutes is hardly ...  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
I have seen several BSODs (both XP and Vista).  B.O.F.H. | 04/12/07
Most people don't want to be or need to be competent  Laff | 04/12/07
Most techs don't have problems  voska | 04/12/07
I'm skeptical too  WiredGuy | 04/12/07
Agree, they have their own agenda  wolverine@... | 04/13/07
Slow Vista Startup  Graphics Man | 01/03/08
Did you take into account startup services and programs?  Heatlesssun1 | 04/12/07
One thing to note  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
Or..  Patrick Jones | 04/12/07
You may be right  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
Or you're getting used to it  voska | 04/12/07
Likely due to ReadyBoot  jacec | 04/12/07
Thanks to both you and ShadeTree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
you might of tweeked it or turned off some services  TechEngineer | 04/12/07
Vista uses the first have dozen boots to analyze ....  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
SuperFetch, actually.  CobraA1 | 04/12/07
One other thing to note?  Heatlesssun1 | 04/12/07
Missing the point  Roger Ramjet | 04/12/07
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
That wasn't my expectation  MyLord | 04/12/07
really?  Badgered | 04/12/07
Why?  voska | 04/12/07
I doubt very much you ....  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
Using Luddite incorrectly...  Linux User 147560 | 04/13/07
I used the term correctly.  ShadeTree | 04/16/07
Not really shade, but if that is what you want to believe  Linux User 147560 | 04/16/07
Please share one technology or feature that ...  ShadeTree | 04/16/07
Well, a Luddite is...  sceptical | 04/16/07
Non-working kit  bportlock | 04/12/07
Vista Home has more functionailty ....  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
re: Vista Home has more functionailty ....  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
I doubt both seriously...  Linux User 147560 | 04/13/07
Really?  Necrolin | 04/15/07
So are we to believe that you reloded ...  ShadeTree | 04/16/07
Huh?  Necrolin | 09/27/07
My Computer...Vista Ultimate...  magpie_z | 04/17/07
Oh yeah, I forgot....  magpie_z | 04/17/07
Really?  Necrolin | 04/15/07
I don't think you  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
Your use of Riska and M$hills along with ....  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
I'll second that.  ye | 04/12/07
OUCH, that spanking had to hurt.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
No No not Eunuchs!!!  TonyMcS | 04/12/07
Diskeeper is the reason my Vista boots slower  zaine_ridling | 04/12/07
Turn the disk keeper service off until you need it  balsover | 04/12/07
Don't run Diskeeper for now  PhilippeV | 04/13/07
The price to pay.  xstep | 04/12/07
Prices  M.R. Kennedy | 04/13/07
Dead wrong!  xstep | 04/13/07
Thanks for playing!  M.R. Kennedy | 04/14/07
Some education and corrections...  Linux User 147560 | 04/13/07
Education  M.R. Kennedy | 04/14/07
Yup, and you used them incorrectly  Linux User 147560 | 04/14/07
It's a pity you were confused  M.R. Kennedy | 04/14/07
No confusion, only a grammatical error corrected.  Linux User 147560 | 04/16/07
Brother Mike is correct and ....  ShadeTree | 04/16/07
Any OS on its own boots up rather quickly.  lenohere | 04/12/07
what upgrade is going to use that hardware?  joeivie@... | 04/12/07
Anyone who cares about computers  hotwirez@... | 04/13/07
Thank you for that little gem  ballscrew bob | 05/07/07
Likely due to ReadyBoot  jacec | 04/12/07
FWIW, my MacBook startup takes...  pdq | 04/12/07
Impressive...  IslandBoy_77 | 04/13/07
Internets?  techboy_z | 04/12/07
I agree...  david@... | 04/13/07
About the INTERNETS  kory@... | 04/13/07
Internets and more  nucrash | 04/13/07
That 11 seconds *is* significant...  techboy_z | 04/12/07
Over how long?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
Excellent marketing point  professordnm | 04/13/07
11 seconds  justanitguy | 04/12/07
Whatever....  techboy_z | 04/12/07
go home to your mama  code_Warrior | 04/12/07
Something that everybody seems to hav missed....  bportlock | 04/12/07
Have You Tried  Jhaks | 04/12/07
linux cant even hibernate  code_Warrior | 04/12/07
Google "linux +hibernate"  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
You are absolutely right.  ShadeTree | 04/13/07
have a look at this thread for a reason  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
So what?  ShadeTree | 04/16/07
and read this PDF in the article  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
how d'ya figure?  galileon | 04/13/07
Not exactly  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
You also tested on a pretty decent system  nucrash | 04/13/07
You think so?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
You are right, I am speculating  nucrash | 04/13/07
You're right it is over a minute  Necrolin | 04/14/07
On an old Compaq 1GHz...  bportlock | 04/16/07
get over it, grin  TechEngineer | 04/12/07
Who cares?  smileyrob2 | 04/12/07
Actually it is more about there anything but ....  ShadeTree | 04/12/07
Sure but then I can say...  ju1ce | 04/12/07
Shadey, Windows users do care.  jacarter3 | 04/12/07
A couple problems with your claims.  ShadeTree | 04/13/07
You own those problems, Shadey  jacarter3 | 04/13/07
Not quite true...  techboy_z | 04/12/07
re: Not quite true...  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
Well then since Linux takes as long or ....  ShadeTree | 04/13/07
Why?  Linux User 147560 | 04/13/07
300% faster  Necrolin | 04/14/07
This article is about Vista's start-up time vs XP.  Zogg | 04/16/07
DENIGRATE? Maybe  miyojim | 04/16/07
They care because of their bias against Microsoft... (NT)  ju1ce | 04/12/07
In George Ou's little world that would be unacceptable...  ju1ce | 04/12/07
I should add...  ju1ce | 04/12/07
Vista vs XP  combrink | 04/12/07
Good post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/12/07
Its always been a  deaf_e_kate | 04/13/07
works fine for me  NotOnYourLife2 | 04/12/07
"Complete boot" time?  kraterz | 04/12/07
I measured till I was able to fully load a web page  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
That method introduces LOTS of variables ...  mwagner@... | 04/13/07
Sure it is...  ju1ce | 04/13/07
But the marketing claim is...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
Network and browser  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/15/07
Vista vs XP boot times...  haroldw@... | 04/13/07
Yes, I have  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
It's still slower, not faster...  another ken | 04/13/07
Speed is relative  hotwirez@... | 04/13/07
Delete the Prefetch file  jwmartin@... | 04/13/07
You didn't just really say that did you? HAHAHA!!!  Master Tech | 04/15/07
But it still makes it boot faster!  jwmartin@... | 04/17/07
WRONG!  Master Tech | 04/19/07
making Vista 18% slower to startup  jbayly | 04/13/07
Lies, damn lies, statistics  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
How do you figure?  nucrash | 04/13/07
My Vista system boots faster...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
Winows boot times are faked anyway  Resuna | 04/13/07
Is it only the boot time, or is Vista just plain slow  franckbu@... | 04/13/07
Friend bought a new Dell...  Boomslang | 04/14/07
It's not a random subset  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/15/07
another great article Ed  SO.CAL Guy | 04/13/07
Where's the boot analyzer utility?  ronsteiner | 04/13/07
Bootviz  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
Yea, Yea, but didn't MS PROMISE it would be faster???  eye4bear | 04/13/07
Vista startup time  alanknight1@... | 04/13/07
Really now Ed  doug@... | 04/13/07
Doug, I am testing those scenarios  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
My experience with a Centrino Notebook  tcascell | 04/13/07
Try it on an entry level machine..  tjdadj | 04/13/07
15 minute boot times?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/07
15 min boot times? Out of context.!!  tjdadj | 04/16/07
I thought the point  Freebird54 | 04/13/07
RE:Vista VS. XP BSOD's  BernieLyons | 04/13/07
US Microsofties  BernieLyons | 04/13/07
RE: Boot times.  BernieLyons | 04/13/07
RE TEST  mark@... | 04/13/07
Question  rockwater | 04/14/07
You could buy this machine with 2GB for about $800  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/15/07
wow what an arrogant a**  rad1956 | 04/14/07
Who are you replying to?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/15/07
The biggest difference between Win2K and XP loading  Xwindowsjunkie | 04/14/07
Did you let it defrag?  jreuter | 04/16/07
Yes  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 04/16/07
What's wrong with being a lab rat?  Labrat636 | 04/16/07
Suggestion of interesting experiment.  miyojim | 04/16/07
Ed Bott, Microsoft Weasel  x-windows user | 04/16/07
I think - You have no idea...  mbridle@... | 12/24/08
u idiot...  pillbox1234567 | 02/20/09
5 minute boot ups  jackson_z | 04/17/07
Okay slow shut downs too  Krazyken39 | 04/17/07
Windows Vista Premium/Crapware  jela48 | 04/27/07
My two cents...  mindwarp311 | 05/11/07
VISTA BASIC  jchap100321@... | 05/14/07
RE: Is Vista really slow to start up?  trongster | 04/07/08
RE: Is Vista really slow to start up?  dev123456789@... | 06/18/08

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