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One thing you did not point out ...
... was that all this enhanced security was probably brought about by Firefox.

Microsoft seemed to think that the browser was dead, Vista's new systems would do it differently and "reprioritised" (=disbanded) the IE team.

Then Firefox appeared and started eating market share and the IE team was reformed!

So the end result is that no matter which broswer you use they are more secure than they were 2 years ago.

Now, this thread will probably devolve into the usual evangelical scrap between Firefox and IE supporters, but the simple truth of the matter is that Microsoft needs competition to keep it moving along. I suspect that without Firefox IE would be in a dreadful state and users would pay for it in the usual fashion - malware, spyware, etc. etc.

So from a user's point of view the competition is improving the quality of both products and that has to be good.

Now - if only they will sort out IE's CSS box model.....
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One thing you did not point out ...  bportlock | 08/03/06
Agreed. Microsoft needs competition in all things to ensure improvements.  OliverSeal | 08/03/06
Lazy  tero_t_vaananen@... | 08/04/06
Another comparison  dnmott@... | 08/03/06
Uh, why?  lrocket | 08/03/06
no few people want to hear the answer  galileon | 08/03/06
because.....  mypl8s4u2 | 08/03/06
I think you?re largely correct?  Cayble | 08/07/06
I couldn't agree more  mdsmedia | 08/07/06
Uh, why?  joe6pack_z | 08/03/06
Shows how little people know on this board  IceTheNet@... | 08/04/06
Seriously?  Cayble | 08/07/06
What about Opera? (NT)  Scrat | 08/03/06
Opera was never IE's competition....  bportlock | 08/03/06
Oper 6 rules!  kokuryu | 08/03/06
IE is older and gets attacked more and is more compatible though with sites  erniem1970@... | 08/03/06
User Education  dannystaple | 08/03/06
Older? By what clock?  Bill F. | 08/03/06
IE tab firefox extention  clockmendergb@... | 08/03/06
correct.  shryko | 08/03/06
IE Is the "big guy"  Gazok | 08/31/06
Really?  fallentech | 08/03/06
Microsoft did, interestingly enough on my system.  jlhenry62 | 08/03/06
what happens I have seen is that the JVM of IE is Vunarable  IceTheNet@... | 08/04/06
Rubbish  Gazok | 08/31/06
Automatic update...  j.dupont | 08/03/06
It is just so nice not to have to worrie about that anymore.  IceTheNet@... | 08/04/06
IE is not MORE compatible  glocks out | 08/07/06
I don't think that's the question anymore...  A_Pickle | 08/03/06
don't forget  fallentech | 08/03/06
"costomizable"?  rick@... | 08/03/06
spell checker  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
what if  wexwimpy@... | 08/04/06
question assumptions  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
The missing link  Mark_L | 08/03/06
RE: The missing link  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
no, there's an easier way  galileon | 08/03/06
RE: no, there's an easier way  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
Times have changed  dannystaple | 08/03/06
RE: Times have changed  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
you can have my  tombalablomba | 08/03/06
RE: you can have my  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
tried before...  xiaodre | 08/03/06
cd is slow  galileon | 08/03/06
absolutely right  jhwoods | 08/03/06
So what you're saying here...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/03/06
RE: TalkBack: Reply to message  gdstark13 | 08/03/06
It's Called the Internet.  klawsteve@... | 08/03/06
RE: It's Called the Internet.  gdstark13 | 08/04/06
Here's an example of why this won't work  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
RE: Here's an example of why this won't work  gdstark13 | 08/04/06
No such thing as bug-free software  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
RE: No such thing as bug-free software  gdstark13 | 08/07/06
Easy solution  FatherJ | 08/08/06
What i'm interested in  tombalablomba | 08/03/06
Approximately every 18 months  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
*ahem* I heard that about OS releases, too, about five years ago...  Zeppo9191 | 08/03/06
Opera Beats IE and Firefox  stds | 08/03/06
Opera Beats IE and Firefox  mark.roberts@... | 08/03/06
tried opera...  xiaodre | 08/03/06
Yes they did almost 2 years ago.  h143570 | 08/03/06
Opera Rules  WebThingy | 10/06/06
I love the smell  Roger Ramjet | 08/03/06
I never understood  DemonX | 08/07/06
Please its not even close - Firefox vs. IE  rtdiaz | 08/03/06
A little exaggeration  JDThompson | 08/03/06
To the devil's advocate...  msolgeek | 08/04/06
Propaganda, Propaganda, Propaganda...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/03/06
Yes, your post os chock full of propaganda...  msolgeek | 08/04/06
Your credibility goes to zero  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
OMg credibilty to Zero!  DarqueSocks | 08/04/06
DARNIT  DarqueSocks | 08/04/06
any chance ZD could add...  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
Previous Message and Next Message  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Schmingo.  snoobar | 08/04/06
I agree, but...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
RE: Previous Message and Next Message  barsteward | 08/04/06
No, as Barsteward says, ....  mdsmedia | 08/05/06
"security wars" miss the point  code_flogger | 08/03/06
Have you looked at IE7?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Much improved, but still not up to par. wink (nt)  OliverSeal | 08/03/06
And then there's the "IE is only available on Windows" thing.  Zogg | 08/03/06
In case you haven't noticed...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Gee, don't you want new readers?  Zogg | 08/03/06
New readers ARE welcome...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/03/06
blog about Microsoft products  clockmendergb@... | 08/03/06
Agreed, but...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
If this is a blog about only Microsoft  mosborne | 08/04/06
Read, please  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Re: Read, please  mosborne | 08/04/06
I don't "ignore other platforms"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
And if I decide I like IE7 so much...  barsteward | 08/04/06
yes, but...  mdsmedia | 08/05/06
A bit dismissive, aren't you?  mosborne | 08/04/06
Please read again  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Not dismissing what your blog concentrates on, BUT...  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
Well, OK, but  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
I'm replying here because I couldn't ...  mdsmedia | 08/05/06
Kam badet vi.  snoobar | 08/04/06
You're right, it's not under my control  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
I did read again. Opinion stayed the same  mosborne | 08/04/06
I still just don't get it  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Makes sense to test security on the most vulnerable OS wink  jjarman | 08/30/06
one more thought  jjarman | 08/30/06
What about Linux?  mypl8s4u2 | 08/03/06
Not my area of expertise  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Do you feel that you  barsteward | 08/04/06
Firefox on Windows is in my area of expertise  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Have you visited the Firefox dev team yet?  barsteward | 08/06/06
They don't answer my e-mails  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/06/06
What would this prove?  Scrat | 08/04/06
Not testing vulnerabilities  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Digital certificate text.  Anton Philidor | 08/03/06
Agreed  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
And when you can understand Microsoft's texts...  Anton Philidor | 08/03/06
I don't have such a problem with that...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
The FireFox version...  Anton Philidor | 08/03/06
That's cute, but...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
More difficult prose.  Anton Philidor | 08/03/06
Sorry for the confusion  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Thank you.  Anton Philidor | 08/03/06
Anton...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
the meaning is often silly.  plumnilly | 08/03/06
mmmmmm  barsteward | 08/04/06
What are you talking about?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Anti-phishing  JDThompson | 08/03/06
I've written about Netcraft before  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
OH Yaeee  Bob41 | 08/07/06
Which browser is more secure?  dataodo@... | 08/03/06
Credibility lost right here  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Interesting that you don't provide a source for any of these assertions.  not of this world | 08/03/06
You're joking, right?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
Really?  CobraA1 | 08/03/06
Guess what?  todbran@... | 08/07/06
so that it can be more compatable and more like IE  IronCladChicken | 08/08/06
Remember Emily Latella?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/08/06
Extensions, Plugins, ActiveX, and the like..  IAHawkeye | 08/03/06
That's how Windows Vista works  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/03/06
That is a good development...  IAHawkeye | 08/03/06
Ed, did you compare  j.dupont | 08/03/06
ActiveX rant  CobraA1 | 08/03/06
Cobra...FF extensions just as insecure  Scrat | 08/04/06
Not exactly  Greenknight_z | 08/04/06
I'm not saying it's bulletproof  CobraA1 | 08/04/06
ActiveX is live and well  megame | 08/07/06
Easy answer which is driving change  rtb | 08/03/06
Believe that if you want to  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
The one-dimensional cartoon world of IE7  whisperycat | 08/04/06
Nonsense  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Your requested link  whisperycat | 08/04/06
That's a quote from a reporter  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Off by default in Firefox, I meant to say  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
You Can TURN IT ON!!  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
You miss the point  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
another link  CobraA1 | 08/04/06
Still not adequate proof  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/06
Your article attempts to seem unbiased..  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
Ahem  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
the reasoning behind their opinions!!  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
And if the "facts" are completely wrong?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/06
I didn't say facts equal reasoning...  mdsmedia | 08/05/06
I have to agree  matth@... | 08/10/06
A good quote:  shryko | 08/03/06
What about Safari?  Anne Hiler | 08/04/06
I don't use a Mac  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
Once again, it is NOT obvious....  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
Complain to the ZDNet editors, not to me  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/04/06
point taken...  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
These Comments the Best Reading yet  OldTimer1 | 08/04/06
Hey, OldTimer1...  Jon N | 08/04/06
Couldn't agree more!!  mdsmedia | 08/04/06
This is really, really simple...  BitTwiddler | 08/04/06
I Don't Care  whoozhe@... | 08/04/06
funny  <--DaVoR--> | 08/05/06
Meta Issue  code_flogger | 08/07/06
It's right there in the third paragraph  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/08/06
OPERA!!!!  r.adagio@... | 08/07/06
Digital signatures verification  thetargos | 08/07/06
No, IE is not Windows' shell  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/08/06
Which browser is more secure?  Bob41 | 08/07/06
Lucky they have a broken sites option  TonyMcS | 08/07/06
But Opera works  TonyMcS | 08/07/06
Whats your companies website addy?  IronCladChicken | 08/08/06
Maxthon?  TonyMcS | 08/08/06
Firefox fan with a problem  bbbaldie_z | 08/08/06
I'm told it was a bug in 1.5.0.5  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/08/06
I'll try again  bbbaldie_z | 08/08/06
Are you kidding me?  opensourcepro | 08/08/06
IE7 or Firefox 2  roboman1@... | 08/10/06
IE 7 B3 Installation Issues  jimjutte | 08/11/06

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