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Yale Patt is being foolish.
You cannot ignore the factors of time and money. In the real non-ideal world, their are many practical considerations that cannot be avoided.

Most programmers are average, which may not be good enough for "Yale Patt" but it is a fact of life.

Irregardless, if we want to take more advantage of multi-core CPU's we will need programmers that understand multiprocessing and multithreading better. It is difficult, and fewer programmers will be good at this, however this understanding will become more important in writing high performance software.

Getting programmers of this caliber will undoubtedly incur more cost. So you are left with the decision of either finding and paying for the necessary talent from a limited pool, or ignoring multi-core technology.

For many applications it will not matter. Servers already take advantage of multiple CPU's without new optimizations. Furthermore there is plenty of software out their that will not need the added processing power to be useful.

This topic only comes up again and again because the IT industry feeds on tales of doom and gloom. The sky is not falling, its just the winds that are changing.
Posted by: T1Oracle   Posted on: 02/20/09  (Edited: 02/20/2009 @ 08:16) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Yale Patt is being foolish.  T1Oracle | 02/20/09
Electrical Engineers  emcauley | 02/21/09
I'm always surrounded by EE students  T1Oracle | 02/21/09
It is sometimes like that  emcauley | 02/21/09
I hope you're right  T1Oracle | 02/21/09
Absrtraction for abstraction's sake  deanders | 02/24/09
This sounds like the anti-Java guy...  storm14k | 02/20/09
What about the selft taught who started with C?  T1Oracle | 02/20/09
You have a point...  storm14k | 02/20/09
Agreed  T1Oracle | 02/20/09
I disagree...to a point.  wolf_z | 02/21/09
Understanding memory is always essential.  T1Oracle | 02/21/09
I must disagree  wolf_z | 02/22/09
Let me clarify  T1Oracle | 02/22/09
Agreed.  CobraA1 | 02/22/09
Solved? You're kidding, right?  masonwheeler | 02/23/09
Hogwash. Garbage Collection Produces Fast, Efficient Programs  Boulder_Bum | 02/23/09
GC also kills RAII  T1Oracle | 02/23/09
Efficiency still matters.  masonwheeler | 02/23/09
GC is a PAIN  Mitch 74 | 02/24/09
Re: GC is a pain!  masonwheeler | 02/24/09
Right On  b253 | 02/23/09
Yes  smiller987 | 02/23/09
researchers and professors  coffeeshark | 02/20/09
Goal Oriented Programming Pays  thomasmarshall3@... | 02/20/09
Agreed  b253 | 02/23/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/20/09
Smart Enough  mggordon | 02/20/09
Re: Smart enough  Ed Burnette ZDNet Moderator | 02/23/09
Looking at the posters above...  storm14k | 02/20/09
I guess they need to learn both  markbn | 02/20/09
Pascal's not just for learning  masonwheeler | 02/23/09
C was for everything . . .  CobraA1 | 02/24/09
Re: C was for everything  masonwheeler | 02/24/09
Delphi is just for Windows  Ed Burnette ZDNet Moderator | 02/25/09
True.  masonwheeler | 02/25/09
No, most programmers aren't stupid.  Henrik Moller | 02/20/09
Play It Again, Bob, While I Enjoy My Square Burger and Read Upon Ruby  DannyO_0x98 | 02/21/09
Re: Holy Grail  Ed Burnette ZDNet Moderator | 02/23/09
RE: Multicore  shenku | 02/23/09
I think we may see some hybridization.  CobraA1 | 02/24/09
Most programmers are stupid  markbirenbaum | 02/20/09
Agree.  Bruizer | 02/22/09
No, most aren't  markbn | 02/20/09
Epiphany-Lite  DannyO_0x98 | 02/21/09
It must be nice...  Qbt | 02/20/09
Those that can, do  John Zern | 02/21/09
There is a saying...  Cheval | 02/20/09
Listen...  thomasmarshall3@... | 02/20/09
Computer Science vs Software Engineering  zeblonite | 02/20/09
Computer "Science"  zdnouchka | 02/22/09
What about those people with Phd's in CS? nt  T1Oracle | 02/22/09
Ph.D in CS  zdnouchka | 02/22/09
You contradict yourself  markbn | 02/22/09
No ,I don't  zdnouchka | 02/23/09
It's called research.  T1Oracle | 02/23/09
theory vs practice  CobraA1 | 02/22/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  gmilosev@... | 02/21/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  mike acker | 02/21/09
I think I'm appalled  wolf_z | 02/21/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  mike acker | 02/21/09
Are you even a developer?  wolf_z | 02/21/09
And clueless about how Java bytecode is secure by design  Custard_over_2x_Pie | 02/23/09
Kinda wonder how many of the posters can even do parallel programming.  B.O.F.H. | 02/21/09
Raising Boilermakers to the Boiler Workers  DannyO_0x98 | 02/21/09
Which all just goes to show...  zkiwi | 02/21/09
Moore's Law making up for programming sins  terry flores | 02/21/09
People of academia are afraid of the real world.  People | 02/22/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  zdnouchka | 02/22/09
Yale Patt isn't thinking long term....  Basic Logic | 02/22/09
Do you have a 2 or 4 core processor?  B.O.F.H. | 02/22/09
Somewhat foolish, but a few things he has good points.  CobraA1 | 02/22/09
You make lazy sound like a bad thing  Ed Burnette ZDNet Moderator | 02/23/09
I give such people more credit.  CobraA1 | 02/24/09
Knowing only high level languages may reduce computer security  pkzd | 02/22/09
Yes!  Ginevra | 02/23/09
Sure, but...!  gregoryk@... | 02/23/09
It's to protect us from the bright ones  tonymcs@... | 02/22/09
It's the legacy of serial CPUs that's to blame  Custard_over_2x_Pie | 02/23/09
Those Who Can't Do, Teach  Boulder_Bum | 02/23/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  mgolden | 02/23/09
Yes, and this is why...  mikifinaz1@... | 02/23/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  ayishamir | 02/23/09
Are you mad?  codejunky | 02/24/09
Use of "stupid"  frj111@... | 02/24/09
ok then let's say....  dave@... | 03/06/09
RE: PPoPP 2009 Day 2: Are most programmers stupid?  pppaulll | 02/24/09
Let me think....  dave@... | 03/06/09

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