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The market will decide..
Let face it, Apple has always gone for form over function. The Air is just their latest status piece for the masses. It doesn?t have to actually work well, it just has to look good in your home or office. The problem for Apple is that people are waking up and expecting more than a pretty face in the morning. It isn?t good enough to just look good when you need to get some work done.

Anyone who owns a laptop knows that battery life is measured in discharge/charge cycles. Most batteries only last a year. What are you going to do when facing a deadline and you don?t have time to take your laptop in for repair for a new battery? That is the real drama with owning this laptop.

Apple has brought new meaning to the phrase ?A fool and his money shall soon be parted?.
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The market will decide..  TheTruthGiver | 01/17/08
Please stop with the ongoing nonsense  MacCanuck | 01/17/08
The only Mac's entirely too hard to service were....  BitTwiddler | 01/17/08
Don't forget...  itpro_z | 01/17/08
Umm, not quite  jimfrost | 01/17/08
Yes, I'm not saying or claiming  MacCanuck | 01/17/08
Why...  djchandler | 01/17/08
Not the 8500  Jkirk3279 | 01/17/08
$$$  The_Curmudgeon | 01/18/08
so Mac_Canadian we meet again  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Actually, that's a interesting bit of history  maldain | 01/17/08
funny you should say that  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
I would agree with most of that  brble | 01/17/08
Clearer History  roog | 01/17/08
Actually Microsoft did not build DOS  jorjitop | 01/17/08
Check your facts....  InnocentBystander | 01/17/08
Aren't you Nervous?  Jkirk3279 | 01/17/08
Wikipedia....  kennethpotts@... | 01/25/08
Quite obviously...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/17/08
Quite obviously...indeed  scott@... | 01/17/08
Two reasons MSFT won over AAPL...  alieninvader@... | 01/17/08
Never had a problem with file/application associations.  ye | 01/17/08
I never had to run any Wizard to use  GuidingLight | 01/17/08
only if...  lostarchitect | 01/17/08
McLies  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Linux...  djchandler | 01/17/08
I dread the thought  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
So....  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/17/08
Quantity does not necessarily equal quality  MacCanuck | 01/17/08
Apple and MS v Xerox  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Stole?  YaBaby | 01/17/08
You're an idiot  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 01/18/08
Are ethics totally absent wherever you live?  MacCanuck | 01/18/08
And yet Apple tells people what TO do...  HypnoToad72 | 01/17/08
Yeah...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/17/08
the above posters....  doh123 | 01/18/08
Pardon me "dumbass"...  MacCanuck | 01/18/08
Macky.....  xuniL_z | 01/18/08
Xuni  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 01/21/08
Wrong comparison  frabjous | 01/17/08
Where do you guys get this stuff?  mlindl | 01/25/08
Form AND function?  marmaj@... | 01/17/08
Ethernet is not necessary any longer  rdawson@... | 01/17/08
Unnecessary Ethernet  tikigawd | 01/17/08
No ethernet port? No problem.  jimfrost | 01/17/08
Are you going to use....  DCMann | 01/17/08
if security...  doh123 | 01/18/08
Why is not being able to use wireless, stupid?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 01/18/08
funny...  doh123 | 01/18/08
Here's a scenario  tikigawd | 01/18/08
when i said....  doh123 | 01/19/08
You apparently seem to know...  tikigawd | 01/20/08
@tikigawd...  sceptical | 01/20/08
re: tikigawd  doh123 | 01/22/08
Pal, I could care less who you work for...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 01/25/08
Wired Ethernet is NECESSARY, and for majority always will be...  marmaj@... | 01/17/08
And 64K is plenty of memory....ha!  James Quinn | 01/17/08
wifi can be just as secure as ethernet in the enterprise  jjarman | 01/17/08
oh yeah, and 801.n is faster then 100 megabit, add vpn and just as secure  jjarman | 01/17/08
Theoretically 802.11n is faster than 100Mbps ethernet.  ye | 01/17/08
Thanks, ye  tikigawd | 01/17/08
Mobile = Wireless  zd@... | 01/18/08
Huh?  tech_ed@... | 01/17/08
Ethernet is required for reliable communications  roland.crachi@... | 01/17/08
Liar  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/17/08
Liar, that's a bit strong  rtimj | 01/19/08
Ethernet is necessary - how do you configure your router  bnordberg | 01/18/08
they didn't use to....  doh123 | 01/18/08
hey nostradomus  rtimj | 01/19/08
Depends on how one defines function  Goudy | 01/17/08
IBM PC and History  Filker0_z | 01/17/08
Original IBM PC a backward step  Patanjali | 01/17/08
RE: Please stop with the ongoing nonsense  lortega@... | 01/17/08
I'm defending Apple  MacCanuck | 01/18/08
Sorry but no more MAC-Coolaid for you!  JABBER_WOLF | 01/18/08
I'm curious...  sceptical | 01/19/08
Keep one thing in mind  mdsock@... | 01/19/08
Even Apple has Microsoft  s_s@... | 01/20/08
The only thing you wrote that makes sense is the title.  James Quinn | 01/17/08
But what does it matter?  GuidingLight | 01/17/08
The MacBook Air was NOT designed for you or me...  el1jones | 01/17/08
LUV IT! So true...  SkiRacer | 01/17/08
- Very good point, Apple is a nich product  socialism=nowhere | 01/17/08
Yes, Not for the Linux geek  tzcannon | 01/17/08
Your exactly right but you know there are some religious left...  socialism=nowhere | 01/17/08
then the people you describe don't need it at all  primusmagestri@... | 01/17/08
Don't need a car with 450hp either....  el1jones | 01/17/08
you didn't get it  primusmagestri@... | 01/18/08
re. you didn't get it  Steve4Fluff | 01/19/08
Or it's apple telling people HOW to do things, as usual.  HypnoToad72 | 01/17/08
Eat at McDonald's for a day, spend the $20 you saved on a two-button mouse!  TCollinsG3 | 01/17/08
The entire debate is colored by...  rtk | 01/18/08
Now again tell me how Apple manages to "tell"  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Or, you could just use..  sceptical | 01/19/08
If they don't think (aka "think different"), why should they have one?  HypnoToad72 | 01/17/08
Um....  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Destop Replacement  pdwarren | 01/17/08
It's about time for common sense  gltheus@... | 01/17/08
laptop=desktop? ha!  w_c_mead | 01/18/08
And Sony has....  top100developers | 01/17/08
Sony SZ, TZ plus IBM T series  primusmagestri@... | 01/17/08
Appeal to the masses?!?!?!?  bert.knabe@... | 01/17/08
Windows on the MacBook Air  asturneresquire@... | 01/17/08
Mac users  Crestview | 01/17/08
And All Understand that it is a Complement to iPod, iTV, iMovies, iPhone  pobstar1@... | 01/18/08
Are you spamming for ASUS, or demonstrating incoherency?  thetwonkey | 01/18/08
It seems the MacBook Air has affected you the most David...  Scrat | 01/17/08
David knows exactly what he is talking about  Fred Fredrickson | 01/17/08
I was looking at other slim type notebooks from Toshiba  James Quinn | 01/17/08
and find Sony SZ grin  primusmagestri@... | 01/17/08
Are you certain?  James Quinn | 01/22/08
What makes this a landmark product? It offers nothing over...  ye | 01/17/08
Nothing?  James Quinn | 01/17/08
How does this translate into a landmark product?  ye | 01/17/08
How does the fact that you can add another gig too  James Quinn | 01/17/08
It's more expandable not because I can add memory.  ye | 01/17/08
Perhaps it's the lack of ports that makes it  James Quinn | 01/17/08
The MBA speed is not impressive.  ye | 01/17/08
Well it is compared to EVERYONE else in it's class.  James Quinn | 01/17/08
It would be if Apple pulled something off that no one else could.  ye | 01/17/08
Nonsensical argument  themacolyte | 01/17/08
I didn't say they didn't think...  ye | 01/17/08
thin is to laptop as.....  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Spoken like a person....  markdoc.geo | 01/17/08
It's not about the specs  maldain | 01/17/08
Sleek and cool looking is not innovative when...  ye | 01/17/08
It runs OSX  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Are you sure about that:  ye | 01/17/08
Everybody wiil know come next week  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Does Apple report on market share?  ye | 01/17/08
Did you read that article?  jragosta | 01/17/08
You misread the article, apparently  laura.b | 01/17/08
Don't you have a company to run? Or did your dad boot you out?  ye | 01/17/08
of course it slip!  Mectron | 01/17/08
Wow, you have changed my mind about apple with this post!  /A\V/ | 01/17/08
Debate Captain......NOT!  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Hear! Hea!  online@... | 01/17/08
The multi-touch trackpad  MacCanuck | 01/17/08
Landmarkiness  DannyO_0x98 | 01/17/08
The iPhone, iPod, and MacBooks offer nothing over the competition either...  olePigeon | 01/17/08
I understand where you are coming from but..  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
" - who will be doing video work on this thing?"  IT_Guy_z | 01/17/08
Apple is a religion, not a computer  robertcape@... | 01/17/08
Let me guess.... Didn't get the job and still bitter?  James Quinn | 01/17/08
"Let me guess.... Didn't get the job and still bitter? "  IT_Guy_z | 01/17/08
Human nature....  James Quinn | 01/18/08
My, the Appleloonies were busy  robertcape@... | 01/18/08
Don't own an iPhone.  James Quinn | 01/18/08
How dare you.....  DCMann | 01/17/08
Which would be understandable....  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Airheads  johnfenjackson@... | 01/17/08
What MacPro costs that much!?!  James Quinn | 01/17/08
x86 Macs don't have a "history" yet.  xuniL_z | 01/17/08
Comparison  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
Funny the reverse is true for us.....  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Funny thing...but didn't you say PCs out number  xuniL_z | 01/18/08
2 to 1 margin PC's to Macs but we have 2.5 full time  James Quinn | 01/21/08
Mac Service  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
I to once worked for a school system.  James Quinn | 01/18/08
RE: What MacPro costs that much!?!  laura.b | 01/17/08
No offense but one never buys memory or hard drives  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Jim- Not the point LOL  laura.b | 01/18/08
Super expensive Mac Pros are pretty common  j.m.galvin | 01/18/08
This was an article  laura.b | 01/18/08
RE: What MacPro costs that much!?!  Steve4Fluff | 01/19/08
The Mac Pro  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/17/08
Mac Pro and Direct X!?!  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Exactly  kitko | 01/17/08
but Steve didn't just introduce...  primusmagestri@... | 01/17/08
Finally someone understands  BobF_z | 01/17/08
Extra Batteries and Air Travel  DannyO_0x98 | 01/17/08
Like you say this is right...  serpentmage | 01/17/08
no, just some others do it better  primusmagestri@... | 01/17/08
A matter of personal preference  BobF_z | 01/18/08
The MBA is a nice system but I have to wonder...  ye | 01/17/08
Heat comes to mind.  James Quinn | 01/17/08
More about opticals  DannyO_0x98 | 01/17/08
2 Gigs is fine  online@... | 01/17/08
Try this experiment:  sceptical | 01/19/08
This says it all...  bportlock | 01/17/08
The bottom of the crab barrel speaks again  frgough | 01/17/08
Listen fan-boy....  bportlock | 01/17/08
This says it all... NO! that is the one point you chose to focus on - NT  raycote | 01/17/08
You somehow missed "These customers want excellent design"  tzcannon | 01/17/08
Really and what phone is this?  James Quinn | 01/17/08
Brilliant Marketing  smith930@... | 01/17/08
Upscale? Yes and no.  KeeHinckley | 01/17/08
David - a true disciple!  dg777 | 01/17/08
My still valid complaint  nucrash | 01/17/08
Why does anyone fall for a pretty face?  wolf_z | 01/17/08
Jessica Alba vs your neighbor  James Quinn | 01/17/08
my neighbors  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Good on you.... and I bet you find their function  James Quinn | 01/17/08
no - I'm married and too old  Paul Fletcher | 01/17/08
Well in that case I'm too old but not married so address please!!!  James Quinn | 01/17/08
Above the rabble  filipiak | 01/17/08
Raised the bar?  Crestview | 01/17/08
Status and Esteem  duclod | 01/17/08
Thinnest laptop on the market?  ye | 01/17/08
Can you fit the Toshiba in an evelope?  nucrash | 01/17/08
Yes, I can. (nt)  ye | 01/17/08
Do you mean...  sceptical | 01/17/08
No, I meant the R2010.  ye | 01/18/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  Badgered | 01/17/08
Too simplistic  jragosta | 01/17/08
re: Too simplistic  Badgered | 01/17/08
1 Thing holding me back  rtwgn | 01/17/08
Have you ever noticed that pattern at Apple?  socialism=nowhere | 01/17/08
Rubbish  oleg.sklyar@... | 01/17/08
Good analysis  cornpie | 01/17/08
It's not about functionality  rapson | 01/17/08
No I don't agree with that statement....  James Quinn | 01/17/08
Depends...  neoanderthal | 01/17/08
 socialism=nowhere | 01/17/08
So give the execs OLPCs instead  Vesicant | 01/17/08
Silly  jragosta | 01/17/08
Tradeoffs?  rpmyers1 | 01/17/08
that's stretching it a bit....  josephmartins | 01/17/08
perfect technology....  cornpie | 01/17/08
I think he meant For Its Purpose  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
We're back to the old MP3 -v- iPod thing  Ken_z | 01/17/08
You cannot compare the iPod's success...  anthony_hunt | 01/17/08
You can compare the early iPod & Air bashing though  Ken_z | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  DaveLG526 | 01/17/08
Mobile computing ... mba too wide  Neil422 | 01/17/08
Disagree  jragosta | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  BabyStewie | 01/17/08
If it doesn't go, CHROME IT!  D. T. Schmitz | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  nskorka@... | 01/17/08
Agreed  alanc5 | 01/17/08
Next at MacWorld: Mac Fanboys Write Puff Piece for Air  DaffyDuck | 01/17/08
Hardly  jragosta | 01/17/08
Well at least you name is on the mark...:)  James Quinn | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  smilajkov | 01/17/08
USB modem  jragosta | 01/17/08
...One thing I see NOT being mentioned....  DCMann | 01/17/08
Which just goes to show you the single port was no  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Sadly, though  laura.b | 01/18/08
Tru Dat  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Laura,  sceptical | 01/19/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  fredkratt@... | 01/17/08
What more do you want?  online@... | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  piedrahr@... | 01/17/08
Why the Mac bash? It's only thursday...  musician88 | 01/17/08
no ethernet?  morgan@... | 01/17/08
Another Apple Love song. 2 in as many days.  xuniL_z | 01/17/08
desktop replacement myth (are you allowed to say that?)  jckatz | 01/17/08
Laptops rule  online@... | 01/17/08
What's to understand?  laura.b | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  jragosta | 01/17/08
App Installs  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
I would imagine that..  sceptical | 01/19/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  psion@... | 01/17/08
Bad deal.  magallanes | 01/17/08
Apple is now in the Fashion Accessory Business  jason@... | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  gthonerfelt@... | 01/17/08
battery change...  musician88 | 01/17/08
Will the battery die?  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
So how often were they actually...  DCMann | 01/17/08
I don't really know  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
and yet, more dumb complaints come out of the woodwork. (n/m)  lostarchitect | 01/17/08
The boxster  seannj427 | 01/17/08
Mac fans sure see things differently than redular folks...  SteveMak | 01/17/08
Cool Rules  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
I wouldn't work for anyone  labarker | 01/17/08
Hang on to your present job for dear life....  DCMann | 01/17/08
Back in the day I choose Mac to support my co-workers  James Quinn | 01/18/08
Good luck finding a job  rtk | 01/17/08
This is the most useless and biased article i have read lately.  fcastellon@... | 01/17/08
Exactly the same as iPhone commentary  sepreece | 01/17/08
However, the iPhone...  DCMann | 01/17/08
Iphone still not in Enterprise  jkim@... | 01/20/08
Compromises both ways  sepreece | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  msellan@... | 01/17/08
Wake up Rip Van Winkle  Aquia33 | 01/17/08
Interesting Study out of U of I  pete_polak@... | 01/17/08
could be...  CMKRNL | 01/17/08
U of I Study  pete_polak@... | 01/17/08
In all fairness  CMKRNL | 01/17/08
In all Fairness......  pete_polak@... | 01/17/08
U of I?  sceptical | 01/19/08
Batteries  online@... | 01/17/08
Mac Maintenance  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
interesting  CMKRNL | 01/17/08
Emacs  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
While not emacs, I've replaced drives on CRT iMacs  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Repair Statisitcs  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
Juice spilled though cooling slots?  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Juiced Computers  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
"Missing" features aren't really missing...  alieninvader@... | 01/17/08
Counter points  DCMann | 01/17/08
Now I don't claim you knowledge about wireless limitations  James Quinn | 01/18/08
What USB devices do you carry? n/m  sceptical | 01/19/08
Looking at the MBA in a vacuum is wrong  CMKRNL | 01/17/08
Mac Pro pricing  jimfrost | 01/17/08
Your Numbers are Bogus!  GeneBuettner | 01/17/08
Isn't that a notebook?  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Why are people so critical of a machine they haven't actually used yet?  LBean | 01/17/08
It's the extra USB port driving up to cost  tzcannon | 01/17/08
PC Envy?  Narg | 01/17/08
Wintel Machine?  duclod | 01/17/08
Yeah So?  Tigertank | 01/17/08
OSX is a branch of FreeBSD!  djchandler | 01/17/08
Creak?  binaryspiral | 01/17/08
Message has been deleted.  ýlysdexia | 02/26/08
Message has been deleted.  ýlysdexia | 02/26/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  mswift@... | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  phatkat | 01/17/08
It's always the suits  Too Old For IT | 01/17/08
Isn't that your job?  tzcannon | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  vidoblog | 01/17/08
What RUBBISH  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  tabrower | 01/17/08
Its Is a Thing of Beauty  etoilebrilliant@... | 01/17/08
Niche product  MarkHarrison | 01/17/08
ZDNet hits new trolling low  RocketEater | 01/17/08
Have you...  djchandler | 01/17/08
You said it "dumb" - ahhh a fool and his money...you know the rest.  socialism=nowhere | 01/17/08
Soooo Basically It's Just Bling  Whyaylooh | 01/17/08
I just realized Apple's BIGGEST mistake with this Laptop...  BitTwiddler | 01/17/08
There ae many usb EVDO devices available  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
Yes, but that defeats the whole purpose of this Laptop.  BitTwiddler | 01/18/08
I thought they were generally tied to the carrier  j.m.galvin | 01/18/08
Wow!  ejhonda | 01/17/08
Possibly the most niche product Apple ever made?  Urkel | 01/17/08
Apple is amazing!  UCase | 01/17/08
More than Platform  Harry Bardal | 01/17/08
Which SOYO plant makes AIR?  duclod | 01/17/08
Elitist nonsense, and who is dumb and dumberer?  james.faction | 01/17/08
Again, App Installs  yogurtlv@... | 01/17/08
Here's how that works  j.m.galvin | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  info@... | 01/17/08
So many mistakes....  scott@... | 01/18/08
there's not a single  rtk | 01/18/08
The question is...  Bruizer | 01/18/08
The end user  rtk | 01/18/08
More often than not, IT is clueless not only too...  Bruizer | 01/19/08
Ah, there's nothing like the end user  rtk | 01/19/08
Anybody who wants an elegant design  jorjitop | 01/17/08
The Apple's screen is...  sceptical | 01/19/08
Oh, and...  sceptical | 01/19/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  rilagan@... | 01/17/08
There Really Are Valid Criticisms For This Laptop!  John-D | 01/17/08
Agreed  Neil422 | 01/18/08
What does it weigh  tzcannon | 01/17/08
OH GOD, there's no floppy!  Steve*1* | 01/17/08
Designed for the SOA Enterprise  mikemac@... | 01/17/08
Remembering Ethernet...  prw3505 | 01/17/08
Original intent is irrelevant  mikemac@... | 01/21/08
Windows at work, Mac at home?  Crestview | 01/17/08
Desktop replacement? I don't think so; and about floppies...  Jeffhs | 01/17/08
The floppy comment...  Steve*1* | 01/18/08
I agree with the article  roaming | 01/17/08
Rubish!  Aquia33 | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  aehlich@... | 01/17/08
This is starting to sound like Poor Apple again!  jattas@... | 01/17/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  sethisSomething | 01/17/08
So you're willing to pay several thousand dollars for something that's shin  John Musbach | 01/17/08
Where to start????  James Quinn | 01/18/08
You lost me at  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 01/17/08
Anyone Understand that it is a Complement to iPod, iTV, iMovies, iPhone ?  pobstar1@... | 01/17/08
This is the second incoherency posted by you, and a duplicate at that.  thetwonkey | 01/18/08
Executives and Air, Agreeable and Intelligent Strategy  kdburton@... | 01/18/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  Les_Wilkins | 01/18/08
Message has been deleted.  ýlysdexia | 02/26/08
So many WEASEL WORDS....  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 01/18/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  kunald4@... | 01/18/08
$1800? Less than a MacBook Pro. Not that "exclusive"  tiagoam@... | 01/18/08
The only Tablet Mac  kunald4@... | 01/20/08
To Summarize what I read  jkim@... | 01/20/08
Couldn't resist - museum piece  ab_aditya | 01/24/08
So What  msackett | 01/25/08
I'm late to the party but this why the MBA is so forward thinking  mlindl | 01/25/08
ummm. Are you serious?  Boxarox | 01/26/08
Crazy people  theoxygenthief | 01/31/08
Stop comparing Microsoft and Apple  theoxygenthief | 01/31/08
Ugh  theoxygenthief | 01/31/08
I'd just like to say  LBucket | 01/31/08
MacAir Ties in Whole Keynote  mollenhourb@... | 02/07/08
Message has been deleted.  ýlysdexia | 02/26/08
RE: Why does the MacBook Air make so many so dumb?  ZDNeX | 10/18/08

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