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Interesting but...
Phil... it may be a contentious argument but
neither of these two examples (IBM/Air New
Zealand and Sidekick/Danger) are really cloud
computing.

My definition of cloud computing is in keeping
with the utility model. Using the analogy of
electricity supply, one power station going
down does not greatly affect my personal electricity supply - or if it does it's just
for a shot time. Both the IBM and Sidekick
examples are outsourcing yes, but cloud?
Arguably not....
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Interesting but...  benkepes | 10/12/09
Have you ever lived in one of the northmost states or in Canada?  CobraA1 | 10/12/09
My point exactly  phil wainewright ZDNet Moderator | 10/12/09
Danger is MS plans for The zune services and the pink phone.  jdbukis@... | 10/13/09
Agreed, discussing the definition of "cloud" won't bring their data back!!  CobraA1 | 10/13/09
A utility by any other name...  benkepes | 10/16/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  lou@... | 10/12/09
Well . . .  CobraA1 | 10/12/09
Agreed!  samofdetroit | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  dwells401 | 10/12/09
I'm guessing that Hitachi == HDD failure  wackoae | 10/12/09
Hitachi != HDD failure  samwyse | 10/13/09
sounds a bit like maxtor of old happy  337 | 10/13/09
ALL hard drives die.  jpdemers@... | 10/18/09
And so I ask, should we trust any of these idiots?  croberts | 10/12/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  alexuk2004 | 10/13/09
Everyone ASSumes it was Hitachi  itguy08 | 10/13/09
Can't be a hardware failure  samwyse | 10/13/09
Where does this say "Cloud Computing"?  chrissz@... | 10/13/09
Self serving crap  croberts | 10/13/09
Cloud vs Hosted  allenfalcon | 10/13/09
Doesn't matter.  CobraA1 | 10/13/09
It's a  sackbut | 10/13/09
technically..  thx-1138_@... | 10/13/09
Doesn't need to.  CobraA1 | 10/13/09
Not just the cloud  e_caroline@... | 10/13/09
That's good!  OhKrud | 10/13/09
You, my friend  sackbut | 10/13/09
As I sit here on death hold...  RedM3 | 10/13/09
Cloud = visible damp vapor supported by air  Doug_Dame@... | 10/13/09
Higher uptime = mirror.  magallanes | 10/13/09
Due Diligence in a Cloud Environment  crimsondryad | 10/13/09
SaaS = Service as a Sideline?? (nt)  Dave S2 | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  jayalalgopi | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  Doug_Dame@... | 10/13/09
You get what you pay for  picaye | 10/13/09
Yes, and having a diaster recovery plan doesn't mean anything until..  dinosaur_z | 11/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  mattbro100 | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  Jeff Tyler | 10/13/09
So was this a cloudburst?  James T. Kirk | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  SJKP | 10/13/09
RE: The Cloud is not an excuse for sloppy planning  kevinf@... | 10/13/09
It's assumed to be unsinkable, thus ...  voltrarian | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  David S M | 10/13/09
Whoops  David S M | 10/13/09
The only amature is Phil Wainewright!  samofdetroit | 10/13/09
You're the amateur. RTFA.  grail@... | 10/13/09
Agree  David S M | 10/13/09
Stuff Happens???  Merlotty | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  phatkat | 10/13/09
The Cloud - No place for critical data.  ITSamurai | 10/13/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  lou@... | 10/13/09
Agreed -- What do you think about IBM?  cnouri | 10/13/09
IBM / Air NZ : Deliberate Power Outage  Kahikatea | 10/13/09
Intersting, but nothing to do with Cloud computing or SaaS  garethhowell | 10/14/09
Now, how do I avoid *amateurs*?  Fabrice Cathala | 10/15/09
Agree for the most part.  thx-1138_@... | 10/15/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  jpdemers@... | 10/18/09
RE: The cloud: no place for amateurs  bsddaemon | 10/19/09

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