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What the bottom line?
The bottom line is that with Suns failure the
open source argument is in trouble. As is two
of the products you mention a business should
consider switching to:

OpenOffice is maintained by Sun. It has been
maintained is such a way that it has alienated
other would-be developers from the community.
Sun has insisted on contributors to sign over
every right to Sun.

On top of that the codebase has become bloated,
it is lagging in features, usability,
performance and collaboration. Sun is going
down the drain, and OpenOffice is the product
which has proven seriously difficult to
monetize.

A reconstructed/private company or a buyer of
Sun will seriously consider abandoning
OpenOffice, leaving it to die on the
community graveyard.

Who in their right mind will bet the shop on
that product in the current flux?

MySQL is owned by Sun as well. Sun has the same
difficulties monetizing that product as well.
And now the founders and engineers have left
Sun, at least one citing the sub-standard
quality
under the Sun regime as reason.
They have gone out and forked MySQL. Several
forks now exist.

MySQL was always the buggy, low quality
database system. Only recently gained real
transactional support and stored procedures.
Still buggy even according to the former CEO.
The project has had to write around other
components in their stack as they were acquired
by other companies (Oracle).

MySQL developer community is a culture of
cheapskates, who'll never pay for anything, not
even support. They only put up with a buggy
database because it was free and easy to get
running. It was lacking features but that
wasn't a concern for driving simple websites.

Who in their right mind would leave an
industrial strength database and port to
MySQL given: 1) The current VERY
uncertain future 2) The public quality
problems, 3) immaturity in the enterprise
space?

PostgreSQL is nice. It feels a little like
Oracle.
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What the bottom line?  honeymonster | 04/11/09
Spot On!  Roger Ramjet | 04/11/09
I have to agree  wackoae | 04/11/09
... Sun *is* what open source is all about...  Spiritusindomit@... | 04/13/09
Stanford User Net  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
That MySQL billion  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
If that's the case  dave.leigh@... | 04/11/09
Companies != socialist organisms  Spiritusindomit@... | 04/13/09
Open Source != Socialism  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
Buying open source  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
re:What the bottom line??  n0neXn0ne | 04/11/09
ummm  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
Oh the irony  honeymonster | 04/11/09
MySQL at little tiny websites  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
Those *are* tiny websites...  Spiritusindomit@... | 04/13/09
As an aside  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Stored Procedures  abdulbijur | 04/14/09
People loved goto statements  Roger Ramjet | 04/14/09
MVC 3 tier  Tim99 | 04/14/09
Not worth it to argue with honeymonster  Archkittens | 04/13/09
What keepaway?  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
MySQL  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
Wrong.  Spiritusindomit@... | 04/13/09
Thank you  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
You haven't answered the question  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Which is sad  markbn | 04/12/09
oh?  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/12/09
Do all what you say matters?  markbn | 04/13/09
I agree -  socialism=nowhere | 04/14/09
I think you are talking about StarOffice not OpenOffice.  James Quinn | 04/13/09
You use iWork  markbn | 04/13/09
Just what DO you use?  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Totally agree with James  enigmaforce | 04/14/09
Murph will as usual have a problem  socialism=nowhere | 04/14/09
RE: Using open source to reduce business risk  abdulbijur | 04/11/09
re:RE: Using open source to reduce business risk  n0neXn0ne | 04/11/09
My guess is that he's looking at it financially  John Zern | 04/11/09
re: My guess is that he's looking at it financially  n0neXn0ne | 04/12/09
no entiendo amigo!  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
....  n0neXn0ne | 04/11/09
thanks,  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
Answers  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
I agree!  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
flaws...  Erik Engbrecht | 04/11/09
agree with most, thanks.  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
Sorry about the repeating  Roger Ramjet | 04/11/09
....  n0neXn0ne | 04/11/09
Agreed - and, even better...  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
the inherant weakness  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
Only if properly architected  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Only if properly architected...  Tim99 | 04/14/09
Sun can't compete..  junknstuff@... | 04/11/09
The real issue with open source  wayne62682 | 04/11/09
Almost agreed  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
Change, even small ones can be big $$$.  DevGuy_z | 04/15/09
I don't agree.  dave.leigh@... | 04/11/09
Agreed (NT)  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/11/09
Outsourcing support is a real "bet the company" move.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/13/09
It's a move that most small businesses already make.  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
Have you dealt with MS or other large vendors, Dave?  daftkey | 04/14/09
Yes.  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
Jack of all trades....  happyharry_z | 04/11/09
Standards and common code  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/12/09
Using open source to increase business risk  tonymcs@... | 04/12/09
You should tell that to Yahoo  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
Using open source to increase business risk...Munich anyone?  transposeIT | 04/13/09
To my knowledge  honeymonster | 04/13/09
Sure Munich failed  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/09
Or you could look at successful projects  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
You don't think M$  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Hmmm, Tom Tom would disagree right about now.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/13/09
Not in agreement on OSS software quality.  DevGuy_z | 04/13/09
What features?  abdulbijur | 04/13/09
As devguy says  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/13/09
Spreadsheet and Risk Management functionality.  daftkey | 04/14/09
No on Monte Carlo, Yes on Nonlinear Solver  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
agree with most  abdulbijur | 04/15/09
Answer  DevGuy_z | 04/15/09
Yeah, because you *always* host a serious infrastructure on mysql...  Spiritusindomit@... | 04/13/09
RE: Using open source to reduce business risk  gary859 | 04/13/09
OSS is riskier - here's why.  daftkey | 04/13/09
Architecture is key  Roger Ramjet | 04/13/09
Re-read my first three paragraphs  daftkey | 04/14/09
*sigh*  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
Companies are like People are like Sheep  Roger Ramjet | 04/14/09
You start with a bad assumption  dave.leigh@... | 04/14/09
RE: Using open source to reduce business risk  Peter V | 04/14/09
The mirage of reuse  Roger Ramjet | 04/14/09
RE: Using open source to reduce business risk  abdulbijur | 04/15/09
A comment on many of the comments here  murph_z ZDNet Moderator | 04/15/09
Murph, you forget one thing:  NetArch. | 04/17/09

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