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No-ax is a shill
I believe a paid shill, probably buried in one of MSFT's PR contracts and gets more attention than he deserves for technical issues. At least George is honest about his bias and background.

A lot of these technical benchmarks amount to nothing more than how many angels can dance on a memory stick. I'm not disputing your analysis, which was pretty fair. I'm saying you can take any platform and make the numbers come out in its favor. Most of the metrics are meaningless in day to day business.

Like George and his load times. Sound and fury signifying nothing. Yes, Word loads faster. Happy now, George? It's meaningless. OpenOffice will do the job capably for 99.99% of all the work most of my customers do on a daily basis. The fact it takes a few seconds longer to load the first time is immaterial. It does a capable job and it can be downloaded for free, saving companies millions in license fees. There are very few compelling business cases for picking Office over OpenOffice. Every so often one pops up, but it's the rare exception. The vast majority of the time user preference is dictated by emotion rather than requirements.

On the web side of the house I support MSFT stacks and LAMP applications. Let me promise you that, on average, the MSFT stack A) Costs more both initially and downstream and B) Requires more operator intervention to keep working right. I'd also argue that development of a web app in .NET, again on average, takes longer to build and more effort to maintain than a similar application written in PHP. That's not entirely a fair comparison but my hands on experience in both worlds tells me there is nothing "rapid" about ASP.NET.

I do like SQL Server. I'd say that was one of MSFT's better products from a reliability perspective. But they keep boosting the pricing on it to the point you really need a business case to justify not using MySQL or PostgreSQL. Again I deal mainly with web apps.
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No-ax is a shill  Chad_z | 01/26/06
Don't curse the messenger  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
Slightly misleading math error...  johnay | 01/26/06
Debate away  D. T. Schmitz | 01/26/06
Re: Debate away  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
Thru a big straw  D. T. Schmitz | 01/26/06
You are wellcome...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
Sun  D. T. Schmitz | 01/26/06
Cost per transaction is one thing...  Scottman_z | 01/26/06
Data migration costs  Fred Fredrickson | 01/26/06
I want virus free and crash proof...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
A rule for understanding posts.  Anton Philidor | 01/26/06
Yo Anton, I wouldn't touch...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
Have you ever stopped to think...  AckItsMe2 | 01/26/06
Agree 100% n/t  mosborne | 01/26/06
Yo nix  D. T. Schmitz | 01/26/06
So Anton  D. T. Schmitz | 01/26/06
Then why is it that in the enterprise...  Richard Flude | 01/26/06
I accept your challenge  NonZealot | 01/26/06
*Anyone* fits this rule? Maybe not.  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
Re XP - I agree  wconrad@... | 01/27/06
Believe it or not...  SGT_Spam | 01/26/06
I don't blame the users or the OS  maldain | 01/26/06
Agree to a point  SGT_Spam | 01/27/06
The performance debate: Linux vs Windows  Loverock Davidson | 01/26/06
Like I have said in the past and will say again...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
Like I have said in the past  Loverock Davidson | 01/26/06
Lame comeback as usual...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
Head butting drains acuity of perception  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
What if BSD was included in the test?  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/06
Nope  Loverock Davidson | 01/26/06
Now isn't that better  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/06
I think you get...  nix_os_fan | 01/26/06
BSD and Linux  SGT_Spam | 01/26/06
Dear god, do you really know much about BSD?  Sxooter_z | 01/27/06
Grammar  bmeacham98@... | 01/26/06
Grammar (2)  bmeacham98@... | 01/26/06
Here's a grammer lesson for you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/06
Forgive Murph, he's Canadian (NT)  Erik1234 | 01/26/06
TPC Comparison Not So Fair  P. Douglas | 01/26/06
Not quite equal  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/26/06
Message has been deleted.  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
Thanks for trying murph  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/06
Heavily?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/26/06
I will test this MYSELF  Justin James | 01/26/06
Additional thought  Justin James | 01/26/06
jmjames, since you are a fellow BSD lover, you might find this amusing...  toadlife | 01/26/06
Real Benchmarks  Sxooter_z | 01/27/06
Slackware  SGT_Spam | 01/26/06
I can do testing too.  toadlife | 01/26/06
Other distros  Rokstar83 | 01/26/06
Servers adequetely installed for their tasks  Justin James | 01/26/06
Based on that  Rokstar83 | 01/26/06
Simple queries favor simple DB engines, involuntary misleading  Mp_z | 02/20/06
Add back updates and anti spy scans  duclod | 01/26/06
Just from my experience  voska | 01/26/06
As I have long suspected,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/06
What it shows me  Michael Kelly | 01/27/06
For consumers the meaning of fair is out-of-the-box vs. out-of-the-box (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/26/06
Exactly what I will be testing  Justin James | 01/26/06
Many consumers have no clue what the RAM, settings, etc. they need. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/26/06
That could be why ...  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
And who are the consumers...  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
the test that counts  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
What else is new?  AmusedAtItAll | 01/26/06
your ignorance is forgiven  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
Not so  tracy anne | 01/26/06
Please post your results  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
can take a horse to the pond, but its the horse thats got to drink th water  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
A better test...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/06
are you donating the cash? happy (NT)  balsover | 01/26/06
Sounds good to me.  booknut | 01/26/06
I'd take that challenge  Robert Crocker | 01/26/06
The problem with cost...  Erik1234 | 01/26/06
I don't think you meant that  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/26/06
Here you go  Robert Crocker | 01/26/06
Server: $4669...  Erik1234 | 01/26/06
When in doubt  Robert Crocker | 01/26/06
But the costs are real  Erik1234 | 01/26/06
So sorry  Sxooter_z | 01/27/06
Some People have way too much time  Pyvent | 01/26/06
Note, this assumes both...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/26/06
Well, I listed my prices  Robert Crocker | 01/26/06
No Robert, you listed the prices  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/27/06
Already changing the rules you made ...  Taz_z | 02/22/06
Wow AX thats the first "Fair" thing I ever heard you say!  Pyvent | 01/26/06
Yes, but as  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/27/06
Now that would be interesting  Anti_Zealot | 01/28/06
Not to mention  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
Interesting theory you have going...  Monkey_MCSE | 01/26/06
pathetic comeback  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
i don't believe you read well  Monkey_MCSE | 01/26/06
I feel sorry for you  zzz1234567890 | 01/26/06
a point of what?  Monkey_MCSE | 01/27/06
I was comparing other features of Windows  BrutalTruth | 01/26/06
Same thing all over again  Pyvent | 01/26/06
nope I even provided a few reasons  BrutalTruth | 01/27/06
then why even bring up these things..  Monkey_MCSE | 01/27/06
hope you get it right this time.  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Why are you here?  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
read up the blogs  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Too much time palying  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
so did you kiss the toad  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Get a life!  Pyvent | 01/26/06
why would anyone call themselves MONKEY  BrutalTruth | 01/27/06
it's a nickname...  Monkey_MCSE | 01/27/06
excellent choice  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Can't come up with a real argument? Side track them!  Sxooter_z | 01/27/06
do monkeys get married  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
answered questions to the point  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Beyond the call of duty?  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
what's false about this statement  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
How about comparing the brutal results ...  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
maybe you dont understand English  BrutalTruth | 01/31/06
Ok, ok, you win  Taz_z | 02/22/06
Not really that important.  Sxooter_z | 01/27/06
Comparison  chromeronin | 01/26/06
But you missed the most important factor  Robert Crocker | 01/26/06
Amortized Post to Desktop  Erik1234 | 01/26/06
Actually  tracy anne | 01/26/06
Fast Boot  chromeronin | 01/26/06
Real World Comparison  wraith0x29a | 01/26/06
As I don't play computer games  tracy anne | 01/26/06
Real World  chromeronin | 01/26/06
RPM-based linux distros suck  Knorthern Knight | 01/26/06
Real World  tracy anne | 01/27/06
Doin' it /Backwards/  sixit | 01/26/06
One thing though...  zkiwi | 01/26/06
Already done  Fred Fredrickson | 01/26/06
Let's test DOS  TonyMcS | 01/26/06
We Are Talking Servers Here  Edward Meyers | 01/26/06
Used to be  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
Dev tools  chromeronin | 01/26/06
Let's Test DOS..  walterreads@... | 01/27/06
Ahhh But It Is  Edward Meyers | 01/27/06
TPC is more a comparison of databases than OSes  Sxooter_z | 01/26/06
Great article...  mockylock | 01/26/06
'Dows to *Nix  walterreads@... | 01/27/06
Level playing field  Knorthern Knight | 01/26/06
Production DB server on the Internet?  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
Is that realy so important?  Agnostique | 01/26/06
Competition Keeps MS on its Feet!  badgertale | 01/27/06
It's a Vegetable Kingdom conspiracy  daver_z | 01/27/06
Actually...  rapson | 01/27/06
Yes, the was one of Paul's points  daver_z | 01/27/06
Tell 'em Paul!!!  Still Lynn | 01/27/06
Author misleading on benchmarks  flyingbuick | 01/27/06

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