Walmart still sells Linspire
cyber_rigger@... | 09/13/05
|

Way to go dude...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|

they OFFER Linspire.....
IT Scion | 09/15/05
|
Tortoise and hare
Roger Ramjet | 09/13/05
|

Agree
xstep | 09/13/05
|

Permanance?
DaveWick | 09/14/05
|
 
Yup!
Justcauz | 09/14/05
|

well...
evilkillerwhale@... | 06/18/07
|
The problem is
jorwell | 09/13/05
|

I agree 100% !!!
Linux_4u! | 09/13/05
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Stupid is as stupid does.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|

And that's driving them crazy
rapson | 09/13/05
|
 
I think you confuse Linux users
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
  
You're right
rapson | 09/13/05
|
   
Another heads-up
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
    
Thanks again
rapson | 09/13/05
|
     
Best of luck
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
    
Note about GUI installer
Bob/Paul | 10/04/05
|
     
Windows emulation Question for Bob/Paul
ITcoder | 11/05/05
|
   
The skinny on Gentoo
Real World | 09/13/05
|
    
Thanks
rapson | 09/13/05
|
     
Some sites:
Bob/Paul | 10/04/05
|
    
That's not quite correct
ITcoder | 11/05/05
|
    
Agreed: I gave Gentoo a swing ...
Too Old For IT | 01/03/06
|
   
Inertia is only one reason Microsoft thrives.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|
    
Inertia, not quite!
theoldman59 | 12/29/05
|
     
User Software: Game, Set, Match
Too Old For IT | 01/03/06
|
  
One bad Apple...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
I do agree
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
   
You can say the same for
Real World | 09/13/05
|
    
But Microsoft isn't trying to win the market.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
A zealot is a zealot
Real World | 09/13/05
|
     
Once more, MS doesn't need "help", Linux does.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Microsoft must figtht to maintain it
voska | 09/13/05
|
     
Microsoft's needs are greater than Linux's
Real World | 09/13/05
|
     
Minor correcttion to your statement
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
   
Re: One bad Apple...
none none | 09/13/05
|
  
Zealots and stuff
SantiagoCrespo | 09/14/05
|
   
But what you fail to mention is...
ITcoder | 11/05/05
|
  
Wrong
ITcoder | 11/05/05
|
 
IBM we hit the question button
toxicfreak | 09/13/05
|
  
Well,
Real World | 09/13/05
|
   
thx the miracle of beer
toxicfreak | 09/13/05
|
  
Takes more than IBM and HP
__howard__ | 09/15/05
|
   
IBM is less than 1/2 of MS, market cap-wise
archerjoe | 12/19/05
|
 
linux vs windows
linuxoverwindows | 09/15/05
|
The $229 Dell
xstep | 09/13/05
|

It's not a deal
Chad_z | 09/13/05
|

How about the 299.99 Dell with XP,
John Zern | 09/14/05
|
Linux is a Religion
OS_Guy_7 | 09/13/05
|

Well done! lol
xstep | 09/13/05
|

You get those types in all camps
voska | 09/13/05
|
 
That's true
rapson | 09/13/05
|
  
Re: That's true
none none | 09/13/05
|

Linux user?
cyber_rigger@... | 09/13/05
|
 
But...
Wolfie2K3 | 09/14/05
|

I beg to differ, but MS is the Religion here
SantiagoCrespo | 09/14/05
|

Windows is a Religion
LBattis | 09/14/05
|
 
Mort, LOL
CheeseToast | 09/14/05
|
  
???
LBattis | 09/14/05
|
 
Nah
Too Old For IT | 01/03/06
|

Linux is a Religion: Growth and Learning
Too Old For IT | 01/03/06
|
Might have a point here
Chad_z | 09/13/05
|
Different Markets
Erik1234 | 09/13/05
|

Important point: acceptable price.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|

#3 IS lame..
Wolfie2K3 | 09/14/05
|
 
Thin Client
johnbe1234 | 12/19/05
|
 
LOL, you've got to be kidding me.
maldain | 01/02/06
|
 
LOL, you've got to be kidding me.
maldain | 01/02/06
|
Keep doing, don't stop
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|

Parochial.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|
 
Not so Parochial
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|

Keep in mind
rapson | 09/13/05
|
 
Missed the point
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
  
That doesn't make sense
rapson | 09/13/05
|
   
Stop trying
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
  
Logic?
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|
  
Re: Missed the point
none none | 09/13/05
|
The real Stupid is forgetting the important stuff
wolf_z | 09/13/05
|

I think the camel's-back
ebrke | 09/13/05
|
Oh I get it...
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
Every other sentence you compare Linux to MS.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
2.5 words for you: Plug 'n' Play
Flubnut | 09/13/05
|

Totally agree
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|

Speaking from personal experience
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
 
Very cool
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
 
Linux Plug-n-Play works better for me too
Erik1234 | 09/13/05
|

This is a valid point.
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|

Not just hardware . . .
CheeseToast | 09/14/05
|

2 words for you "Desktop Distribution"
sinnerbofh | 10/04/05
|
 
update
Flubnut | 12/19/05
|
Paul,
rapson | 09/13/05
|

Its doesnt matter to Paul what John meant.
vdraken | 09/13/05
|
 
To be fair,
rapson | 09/13/05
|

Just a matter of time
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
Learning and Imitating.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|

Learning VS. Imitating
Katatawnic_z | 09/14/05
|
 
Mac is inspiring, I agree...
Anton Philidor | 09/14/05
|
 
History lesson needed here....
Scrat | 09/15/05
|
Technology isn't the problem, it's marketing.
JonathonDoe | 09/13/05
|

Patience for a "me too" product?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
 
It is...
rapson | 09/13/05
|
  
It is,,, becoming more Windows / Apple like.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
The other thing you have to remember
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
   
How?
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
  
I agree!
Mark Miller | 09/13/05
|
 
Nothing Me Too about it
voska | 09/13/05
|
  
Of course you can.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
There you go again
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
   
Exactly, glad you agree
voska | 09/14/05
|
 
Both camps feed off of each other.
B.O.F.H. | 09/13/05
|
  
A red letter day BOFH, I agree with you.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
 
Actually your wrong on that account as well
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
Who's copying from who?
skeptic tank | 09/13/05
|

But, it doesn't matter a bit.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
 
Yep
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|

Still not getting it.
Anton Philidor | 09/13/05
|
 
Re: Still not getting it.
none none | 09/13/05
|
Two words: Too Technical
nothingness | 09/13/05
|

real ease of installation
cyber_rigger@... | 09/13/05
|

Too technical? Yes for some things
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|

re: Two words: Too Technical
Katatawnic_z | 09/14/05
|
Linux will not succeed until they change the paradigm.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|

Pathetic
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
 
You have to understand where he's coming from
Michael Kelly | 09/13/05
|
  
One thing
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
   
Without developers, it's dead...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
    
Yes Bit
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
     
And yet for all your *clains*, it's gone nowhere...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Sure it's reality
voska | 09/14/05
|
  
Use whatever licence you like
uno@... | 09/13/05
|
 
And we are so happy for you...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
  
Not really Bit
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
   
No, you come on...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
    
"A few bucks"????
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
     
Not when you want to make a living selling products.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
    
OK, well...
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
     
I agree about IBM's ad
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
     
General public? It's the IT people that do the buying.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Remember the point here Bit
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: OK, well...
none none | 09/13/05
|
    
Re: No, you come on...
none none | 09/13/05
|
     
Read the GPL yourseld.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: Read the GPL yourseld.
none none | 09/13/05
|
     
RE: REad the GPL
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
     
NO_AXE
voska | 09/14/05
|
    
Time for another spanking!
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
    
I think you're assuming a bit much
Mark Miller | 09/13/05
|
  
Did you pull that number out
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
 
And to set the record straight...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
  
Encumberance
Tim Patterson | 09/13/05
|
   
Or just use Microsoft.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
    
I see, In response to one encumberance, switch to something even more . .
CobraA1 | 09/13/05
|
     
One man's poison...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Umm, last I heard, MS stuff has EULAs also
CobraA1 | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: One man's poison...
none none | 09/13/05
|
     
You can build on GPL software
voska | 09/14/05
|
    
Re: Or just use Microsoft.
none none | 09/13/05
|
     
Calm down child and stop the name calling.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: Calm down child and stop the name calling.
none none | 09/13/05
|
     
As I said, I've never needed it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: As I said, I've never needed it.
none none | 09/13/05
|
    
You don't know what you're talking about
chaosity234 | 09/13/05
|
     
Re: You don't know what you're talking about
none none | 09/13/05
|
    
Okay you are so full of it
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
  
Perhaps you should read the restrictions on Shared Source.
B.O.F.H. | 09/13/05
|
   
Who said compare?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
  
Re: And to set the record straight...
none none | 09/13/05
|
   
Windows is robust enough I don't need to change it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
    
Re: Windows is robust enough I don't need to change it.
none none | 09/13/05
|
    
Re: Windows is robust enough I don't need to change it.
none none | 09/13/05
|
    
"Just use the provided APIs"
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
  
once again spreading misinformation
chaosity234 | 09/13/05
|
  
No
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|

Open Source is the way
opensourcepro | 09/13/05
|
 
Wow, how grandiose
Mark Miller | 09/13/05
|

Gotta correct you AGAIN...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
Copycat Desktops? Wow, You Mean Like Vista Looking Like Tiger For Mac??
itanalyst | 09/13/05
|

The difference... Windows sells, Linux doesn't.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
 
A Thief Is A Thief...
itanalyst | 09/13/05
|
  
YOu mean when Apple "Stole" the idea from Xerox?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
Why the quotation marks?
T25 | 09/13/05
|
    
I think it means...
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
   
Actually, all that was paid for.
999ad@... | 11/02/05
|
  
And by the way, the courts say you are 100% dead wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
Most People Don't Care What The Courts Say Anymore
itanalyst | 09/13/05
|
    
Apple did and still does.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
  
You can't patent software
daver_z | 09/13/05
|
  
versions
adiesen | 10/05/05
|
 
Well, duhhhhhh.
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
 
That would be because
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/13/05
|
Linux plug and play vs Windows
Andromedat6 | 09/13/05
|
Network computer?
CobraA1 | 09/13/05
|

LINUX DIFFICULTIES
schoolfieldd | 09/15/05
|
It is clear that
michael_t | 09/13/05
|

Wrong, even the Unix shops...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
 
Oh, So You're Saying For Servers Linux/Unix is the way to go?
itanalyst | 09/13/05
|
  
Choice is a good thing... That's why Windows wins the desktop.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
I HATE When I Have To Agree With You!!!
itanalyst | 09/13/05
|
    
ROFL
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
Yes, It Definitely Will...So Will Their Ads
itanalyst | 09/14/05
|
   
Choice has nothing to do with it.
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
    
So when are you quitting your job?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
 
I have a choice?
Erik1234 | 09/13/05
|
  
You need a new job then?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
   
Lack of Choice
Erik1234 | 09/13/05
|
    
Then they need a new job?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|
     
with gun pointed at my head.....
thelemite | 09/13/05
|
     
Show me this "gun"...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
     
The threat of gun is enough
voska | 09/14/05
|
 
Actually I'd say you are wrong
voska | 09/14/05
|
Linspire is very affordable and CNR Warehouse is great
hipparchus2000 | 09/13/05
|

Baloney
daver_z | 09/13/05
|
 
better than linspire
daver_z | 09/13/05
|
Murph, judging from the Linux supporters posts, it is...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/05
|

You're calling others stupid now!!??
chaosity234 | 09/13/05
|
 
No, I answered the man's question.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
  
Yeah right
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
copying
Update victim | 09/13/05
|

Geoworks...now there's a flashback! (NT)
Erik1234 | 09/13/05
|
Strategic gaps are Linux's viral openings
joef_z | 09/13/05
|

You would think more people would get it. (NT)
Zinoron | 09/13/05
|
kinda ironic when one FUD spreader.....
JoeMama_z | 09/13/05
|
You seem to have such grand consipracy theories
zzz1234567890 | 09/13/05
|
your analysis
zzz1234567890 | 09/13/05
|

HYPOCRITE - stop contradicting yourself
zzz1234567890 | 09/13/05
|
Several Major Innacurracies
mslicker | 09/13/05
|
Microsoft tries to hire Eric Raymond
xstep | 09/13/05
|
Ignoring common interface paradigms is stupid
D Soup | 09/13/05
|

No, it's called "innovation".
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
 
You've missed his point
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
Start with a misconception then go for there
Richard Flude | 09/13/05
|

KDE 4
xstep | 09/13/05
|
It's about time somebody said it.
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/13/05
|
I have a philosophy question....
mytopsecretmailbox@... | 09/13/05
|

did I say something wrong?.....
mytopsecretmailbox@... | 09/13/05
|
 
Not really...
rapson | 09/14/05
|

Give it a go
Richard Flude | 09/13/05
|

Under communism...
Ngallendou | 09/14/05
|

It's not communist at all
voska | 09/14/05
|

Doesn't really fit communism
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|

Taking Flamebait
Erik1234 | 09/14/05
|
Tough question...
Linux User 147560 | 09/13/05
|

Agree except about KDE/GNOME
chaosity234 | 09/13/05
|
 
Strongly disagree
xstep | 09/14/05
|
 
Problems arise though
Linux User 147560 | 09/14/05
|
  
Not really that problematic
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
Hatred of MS is the real "stuck on stupid"
spiv | 09/14/05
|

The savings is there
Linux User 147560 | 09/14/05
|
 
You talk cost like it means something to you
John Zern | 09/14/05
|
  
Its no
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
  
John you miss the point completely...
Linux User 147560 | 09/14/05
|
   
(just about) any software you want comes with Linux
gambrinus_z | 09/19/05
|
    
Well Said
Cayble | 12/29/05
|
Speaking as an IT buyer...
Ngallendou | 09/14/05
|

Speaking as another IT buyer
John Zern | 09/14/05
|
 
...and time.
stormculture | 09/14/05
|
 
speaking as a sysadmin
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
 
How many people are going to want to download...
Anton Philidor | 09/14/05
|
When did ZDNet hire trolls
John Zern | 09/14/05
|
Adoption (failure) = Apps (failure)
stormculture | 09/14/05
|

Re: Adoption (failure) = Apps (failure)
999ad@... | 11/02/05
|
It's marketing.
Gargarney | 09/14/05
|

Unfortunatly.....
Cayble | 12/29/05
|
Windohs users are stuck on stupid...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|

And don't reply with "there is already support...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|

if you want help just ask
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
 
Thank you for helping me make my point...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
  
winmodems
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
   
You don't read very well do you?...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
    
you're an arrogant prick
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
     
Ummm...gayosity234...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
    
Shut up
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
    
ouch that hurt
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
     
Message has been deleted.
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
    
gayosity234 ??
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
    
Nice troll Colonel_panic
chaosity234 | 09/14/05
|
     
Listen...I love Linux...I even like...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
     
Are there any real IT professionals here?
HelpDesk Dave | 01/04/06
|
  
Give me a break
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
   
Do you think...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|

windohs???
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
 
OK knuckle dragger...RTFA...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
  
You are a home Luser
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
   
What...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
   
Good for you...
Cayble | 12/29/05
|
  
You know what I use?
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|
   
Ah! Good Post!
Cayble | 12/29/05
|

So what. Make a point.
Cayble | 12/29/05
|
John Caroll: M$ *EMPLOYEE*
swbobcat | 09/14/05
|
Linux is not ready for prime time
Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/14/05
|

I would have to disagree...
Linux User 147560 | 09/14/05
|
Linux Needs to Suck Up and Throw a Hail Mary
doieasylink | 09/14/05
|

Micro$oft is going to proprietary themselves...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
Some 'biggies' are already 'on board' like...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
The Linux desktop dev guys are wrong
AldoWatts | 09/14/05
|

Actually
Linux User 147560 | 09/14/05
|
Standardization of hardware drivers and software...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|
'Toopid?
benning | 09/15/05
|

Oy!
benning | 09/15/05
|

Right on !
Krazyken39 | 09/19/05
|
 
Duh!
gambrinus_z | 09/19/05
|
RE: Hmm.... ok, folks arguing this is foolish
Krazyken39 | 09/15/05
|
Desktop Linux should be replaced by Linux Portal OS
stevensee | 09/20/05
|
It will work one day
lukasab | 09/21/05
|

I think it works now
masinick@... | 09/21/05
|
 
Only Dubya is better at adjusting folks' expectations.
friedcow | 12/29/05
|
Paid by M$ ?
somedudehere | 10/05/05
|
Recently Switched
poocow666 | 10/05/05
|
Linux
doc_cotton | 11/01/05
|
Missing the 'desktop' will be missing the boat.
999ad@... | 11/02/05
|
Focus your thoughts
greavesg | 11/04/05
|
Right idea, wrong approach
ITcoder | 11/05/05
|
Its ZDNets fault!!!! Conspiracy!
Helper2 | 12/01/05
|
Bring ouch yer dead!
friedcow | 12/29/05
|
Only Dubya is better at adjusting folks' expectations.
friedcow | 12/29/05
|
linux should not step aside for redmond junk!
ozmont | 01/03/06
|