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RE: EU says IE violates antitrust
The EU is wrong. There is no problem with Microsoft
incorporating IE into its operating system. IE adds
value to the OS as a whole by integrating it to make
features like Windows Explorer easier to use. Besides
that, Microsoft dose not make any money from the
browser like other companies do so market share is not
an issue.

Now if Microsoft was smart they would halt all sales
in the EU, then wait for them to come back begging on
their hands and knees to continue sales and then jack
up the price just to teach them a lesson.
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Tell Europe to take a hike  a10pilot69 | 01/19/09
"not going to sell or service Windows to Europe "  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
Not at all  John L. Ries | 01/19/09
Hey, bring it on!!! It would be really funny to see the results, and MS is  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
We already know the results.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Screw the EU...  Mantei Woodcraft Ltd. | 01/20/09
"let them use Apple or Linux?"  balaknair | 01/20/09
No Surprise there..  lenohere | 02/25/09
Just another bunch of stupidity from the EU  Lerianis | 01/19/09
yes, they made a big mistake  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
How would that have promoted choice?  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
But the problem with that...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
Hopefully, they will be smarter this time around, and not let them create  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Repair past damage?  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
The issue issue is the WINDOWS monopoly and using it to disadvantage  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Donnie... your cluelessness is showing...again..  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
Let's not forget 64-bit...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
I have been running 64bit OpenSuse for years.  hkommedal | 01/21/09
As someone pointed out right here  GuidingLight | 01/19/09
RE: ... someone pointed out right here ...  n0neXn0ne | 01/19/09
and how...  bjs_z | 01/19/09
Linux can download s/w without a browser  deaf_e_kate | 01/19/09
What does that have to do with  John Zern | 01/19/09
In case you did not notice, the poster was claiming that without a browser  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Windows can too  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Let's stumble around in the dark...  reziol | 01/20/09
Wow, did not know how handicapped Windows was!! You mean to tell us that  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Use Windows Explorer to access internet  sean_hando@... | 01/19/09
you still use IE  ldfadssodar | 01/19/09
EU should pay MS for rampant piracy  rrgg | 01/19/09
Uses underlying web components of OS  Patanjali | 01/19/09
How about  balaknair | 01/20/09
EU and IE  mfpezok@... | 01/21/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  Loverock Davidson | 01/19/09
what? no replies?  nizuse | 01/19/09
Something happening here ?  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
Including a browser is no big deal, but...  John L. Ries | 01/19/09
Smoking the good stuff in the EU  Zeddd | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  BR999 | 01/19/09
It's about time  linuser | 01/19/09
Absolutely correct  mmagliaro | 01/19/09
You can easily...  DCMann | 01/19/09
No...that's not what it's about  linuser | 01/19/09
I remember Netscape...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
IE is not free, never has been.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 02/25/09
I think your confused  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
I believe he's talking about the browser  linuser | 01/19/09
Let me explain  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
You sound like a european judge.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Nah Judge Judy  Alan Smithie | 01/21/09
Well said  rkoman@... | 01/19/09
Hmmm....  DCMann | 01/19/09
Yes...but it can be uninstalled  linuser | 01/19/09
Until the next update runs.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Let me buy you a drink  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
NONE OF THIS IS A VIOLATION OF ANTITRUST  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Tell it to Netscape  reziol | 01/20/09
The EC's argument is utterly stupid  P. Douglas | 01/19/09
It's political, not about arguments  nizuse | 01/19/09
It's just a sign of what they're really doing.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
Socialism EC full of it  LBiege | 01/19/09
That's a false analogy  rkoman@... | 01/19/09
So you are saying ...  LBiege | 01/19/09
No, the analogy is if BMW dominated the market, and the forced you to buy  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
So give me a straight answer.  LBiege | 01/19/09
There is a big difference. A car must have an engine, and is completely  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
Still spinning  LBiege | 01/19/09
I think you are the one spinning. A motor is part of a car, but a browser  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
I'm asking simply Yes or No  LBiege | 01/19/09
BMW being forced to leave out the engine, would be like MS being asked to  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
The straight answer.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
You know...  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
better analogy  Anonymous Benefactor | 01/19/09
Well, if a single auto manufacturer had 90% of the market, it sure would  DonnieBoy | 01/19/09
If the EU designed a car it would be Trabant.  osreinstall | 01/19/09
Most of those are manufactured here.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/20/09
But the EU has fined VW in a similar regard.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/19/09
What a pity...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
BMW doesn't have a monopoly  kedens | 01/19/09
Last weeks news  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
MSFT responds by pulling EU critical updates  JeRDLe | 01/19/09
IE bundle does violate consumer choice, always has  educateme@... | 01/19/09
The only way it violates choice...  DCMann | 01/19/09
How's it stop consumer choice?  John Zern | 01/19/09
Wow that is so not what happened  NoThomas | 01/19/09
I have plenty of choice.  osreinstall | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ian_rw | 01/19/09
No Issue  VietOne | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  giles.r.demourot@... | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  g4george | 01/19/09
Innovation and Excellence  chingnam | 01/19/09
Would a closer analogy be...  DCMann | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  serranoabq | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  nocroman@... | 01/19/09
There are lots of solutions  linuser | 01/19/09
??  NoThomas | 01/19/09
sorry up above was meant for Linuser  NoThomas | 01/19/09
I just don't get it  JimITGuy | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  null | 01/19/09
EU is picking on the big guy  apiercy@... | 01/19/09
Good and Bad  NintendoMad | 01/19/09
Its all about Laws  NoThomas | 01/19/09
IF anything..  Honestmungo | 01/19/09
Just use Linux  Alan Smithie | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  zdnetboy | 01/19/09
Well...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
We can complain all we want, but the reality is that we benefit  weepule | 01/19/09
Competitive advantage  linuser | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ASM528 | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  jason09 | 01/19/09
Netscape myths  ForumsReader | 01/19/09
What about the DOJ case?  linuser | 01/19/09
So, on that revisionism thing...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  salblomo | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  john.dearden@... | 01/19/09
Market Share?  Hubbity Bubba | 01/19/09
Agreed. Just highlights that it is an anti-MS witch-hunt  Patanjali | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  herenvardo | 01/19/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  Custard_over_2x_Pie | 01/19/09
Hopefully in time for Windows 7  linuser | 01/20/09
So then Apple violates anit-trust laws...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
uninstall IE ??  martin23 | 01/20/09
Fair point...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Maybe it's because...  John L. Ries | 01/20/09
still doesnt make sense...  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Well, back in the day...  zkiwi | 02/25/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  email938 | 01/20/09
The fact that IE is there causes problems  linuser | 01/20/09
And???  ryanh02 | 01/20/09
Ima Mutfn Lead Farmer!  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
No Crazy Super Linux Console is a microsoft feature  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
You Just Rubbed On The Truth.  focusedwolf@... | 01/20/09
The "only" way????  {DvT}Hex | 01/20/09
Something for the EU to consider  linuser | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  ceh4702 | 01/20/09
What about OS X and Safari??  jscott418 | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  thammr | 01/20/09
But you could "replace" the browser  linuser | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  cjohnson@... | 01/20/09
Require PC vendors to limit browser share  linuser | 01/20/09
This is a cooperative money grab...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/20/09
You got it!!  Hubbity Bubba | 01/20/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  pv111 | 01/21/09
RE: EU says IE violates antitrust  slhpss | 01/21/09
there is no "Browser Market"  Hubbity Bubba | 01/21/09
What IS an operating system?  Hubbity Bubba | 01/21/09
This is what Microsoft has intentionally tried to blurr  linuser | 01/22/09
Windows WITHOUT applications  linuser | 01/22/09
Paint.NET  Hubbity Bubba | 01/22/09
Sigh. All those years wasted by bad terminology  wolf_z | 02/25/09
The EU has it right. Microsoft is a predatory monopoly.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 02/25/09

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