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Historical context
The rise of restrictions is directly related to the
rise of unions. As they gained strength, they
used that strength politically to create
protections for their members. That political
strength also elected more statist governments
that created various bureaucracies to protect
workers. One of those would be the one
controlling work permits.

Those same sort of ?protections? even remain
in the US between states. If you were a
pipefitter or iron worker from Oklahoma and
came to New York City, you would not find
work because you were not a member of the
union. If you went to join the union, you might
find that you could not get in, no matter your
skill level. However, if your father or uncle
were in the union, and in good standing, you?d
get in and get work.

Whether you think the above is right or wrong,
that?s the way it is.

By the way, since you said you had problems
with Switzerland, and you?d previously said you
worked for the UN over there, I assume you
were locally engaged rather than being hired in
New York and transferred to Switzerland.
Posted by: j.m.galvin   Posted on: 03/06/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Historical context  j.m.galvin | 03/06/07
In Switzerland  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Revisionism  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
Many unions now favor illegals.  Anton Philidor | 03/07/07
Legalize illegals, not without them paying.  jeffwh | 03/06/07
That was the approach  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Assessing penalties.  Anton Philidor | 03/07/07
English will happen on its own  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Or worse  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
if done legally..  jeffwh | 03/06/07
It's unfair...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
if done in a fair manner, yes.  jeffwh | 03/06/07
It's them durn furriners  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
Profiling does happen  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Combating Xenophobia  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
Good point  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Internal borders  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
edited  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
A very important issue in todays world.  p_msac@... | 03/06/07
Re: labor capacity  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Ever hear of the CanAMex?  voska | 03/06/07
I had thought  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
I agree  John L. Ries | 03/06/07
That would work  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Are you that dense, John?  techboy_z | 03/06/07
Reasons for control  Robert Crocker | 03/06/07
We have a large influx now  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Are you saying...  Henaway | 03/06/07
No  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Artificial thinking  klumper | 03/06/07
Defending borders  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Laissez-faire has its limits too  klumper | 03/07/07
Re: laissez-faire  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/07/07
More fuzzy logic  klumper | 03/08/07
Why bring race into it  voska | 03/07/07
Uh, because that's one of the factors, or haven't you noticed  klumper | 03/07/07
No hypocrisy  Robert Crocker | 03/08/07
actually, no to the HC thing... and i know something about this  jmelnik | 03/07/07
Re: actually  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/07/07
i think we agree  jmelnik | 03/08/07
MS and the One World Order vision  klumper | 03/06/07
And you didn't finish reading  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
I could control it John  klumper | 03/06/07
Re: I could  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
Here's the real Irony  voska | 03/07/07
The Canuck view  klumper | 03/07/07
Somebody made a cartoon of this  Mark Miller | 03/07/07
Great Ideas...  IAHawkeye | 03/07/07
What happens without slaves?  slopoke | 03/07/07
open borders means more drug smugling  code_Warrior | 03/09/07
Then change the laws.  Anton Philidor | 03/07/07
I'm not disagreeing  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/07/07
Largely agree with a few caveats  Mark Miller | 03/07/07
I agree with this  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/08/07
The artificial nature of Intellectual Property  Robert Crocker | 03/08/07
Clarification on hospital problem  georgeou | 03/09/07
one correction george....  jmelnik | 03/09/07
Ok, DEFINITELY NOT free for you and me  georgeou | 03/09/07
The Constitution needs to be considered here  Mark Miller | 03/10/07
Not if it remains the source of the problem  klumper | 03/10/07

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