Ballmer Speaks - Next Day Litigation
BanjoPaterson | 10/12/07
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Why extend rights to yourself that you won't do to others?
GuidingLight | 10/12/07
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Doesn't the US constitution enshrine the separation of church and law - NT
raycote | 10/12/07
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No, not really
Carrion | 10/12/07
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Fraudulent courts.
xode@... | 10/12/07
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The main point I see...
Information_z | 10/14/07
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The Constitution does not separate God ( morals, ethics. etc.) and law.
xode@... | 10/12/07
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God does not represent morals, ethics, etc.
Fred Fredrickson | 10/13/07
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Silly sheep
HapGail_HomeInMd@... | 10/13/07
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Good question
Linux User 147560 | 10/13/07
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I think you...
Information_z | 10/14/07
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separation of church
jsjag1 | 10/12/07
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Get it right or don't even try.
People | 10/12/07
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Yes, there is. And guess Who INVENTED Separation of Church & State?
Joel R | 10/12/07
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Good call Joel; and right on!(nt)
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Maybe even earlier...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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If you're gonna . . .
JLHenry | 10/13/07
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JLHenry, re: Romans 13:
Joel R | 10/14/07
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Although...
JCitizen | 04/21/08
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Correctly interpreted as it is written
Update victim | 10/13/07
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What is the actual intent of the ammendment
mcq@... | 10/15/07
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You forgot
Update victim | 10/13/07
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heres where it came from
destrecht@... | 10/14/07
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Jefferson
jmorgus@... | 10/15/07
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No, that would be the Marxist Manifesto
lalogos | 10/12/07
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Re: No, that would be the Marxist Manifesto
none none | 10/12/07
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Even the fossil record....
Carrion | 10/12/07
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Re: Even the fossil record....
none none | 10/12/07
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Actually
alaniane@... | 10/12/07
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No , science never said that.
Joel R | 10/12/07
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Ancient scientists
alaniane@... | 10/12/07
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No , science never said that
Ole Man | 10/13/07
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Only if you've never studied it.
handydan918@... | 10/12/07
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I've studied it plenty...
Carrion | 10/12/07
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Not this again!
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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@Linux User
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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Calling me weak minded
Carrion | 10/12/07
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To: JCitizen
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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@Linux User; I can under stand your frustration...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Sorry, but ?macro-evolution? aka speciation HAS been DIRECTLY OBSERVED.
Joel R | 10/12/07
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In Marxism, religion does not exist
Carrion | 10/12/07
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evolution
Mahegan | 10/12/07
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There is a big difference
alaniane@... | 10/12/07
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No, there isn't.
Joel R | 10/12/07
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It's interesting
alaniane@... | 10/12/07
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Nice try.
Joel R | 10/13/07
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That's not evolution...
Carrion | 10/12/07
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Umm
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Nonsense.
Carrion | 10/12/07
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Just my opinion but...
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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That's easy!
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Perhaps you should restudy what Darwin
Update victim | 10/13/07
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In fact Darwin was a man of faith...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Okay, lalogos, you asked for it!
Joel R | 10/13/07
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Long, but interesting...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Honesty?
cheesyone | 10/13/07
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No
laura.b | 10/12/07
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Please show me where in the constitution
People | 10/12/07
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It is probably in the preamble or the Articles..
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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I stand corrected!
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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More people
Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
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Amendment No. 1.
Update victim | 10/13/07
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Neither...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Constitution
justanitguy | 10/15/07
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Depends ...
JCitizen | 10/15/07
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A lot of sawdust makes a tree
Chad_z | 10/12/07
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Open source or not ...
mwagner@... | 10/12/07
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a wheel is just a wheel.
pcguy777 | 10/12/07
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From what I am seeing
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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You OBVIOUSLY didn't understand the patent.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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The "Virtual Workspace" is a fairly simple concept ....
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Sounds like...
jasonp@... | 10/13/07
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Another U-boat operation.
osreinstall | 10/12/07
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Correction
osreinstall | 10/12/07
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So they are trying to collect retroactively ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Sure looks that way.
osreinstall | 10/12/07
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what I am seeing
aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
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Sent it all to Syria....
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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The advantage Open Source has over patent trolling...
olePigeon | 10/12/07
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Dude, Red Hat didn't even exist
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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yeah? well...
linuxoverwindows | 10/12/07
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The concept being
Ole Man | 10/12/07
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This suit needs to go to court and be won
grail@... | 10/13/07
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He has been speaking for some time.
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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You're Kidding Right?
rjacksix | 10/12/07
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Surprised a discussion of Linux mentions Red Hat?
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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Linux mentions Red Hat?
aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
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This is some one blowing smoke !
jackie40d@... | 10/13/07
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just give thanks to ms
pcguy777 | 10/12/07
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If they said no, MS would not be here now!
I am Gorby | 10/12/07
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Grassy Knoll
crypt2121 | 10/12/07
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Next Day Litigation
aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
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The Prior Art Starts Here
David Mohring | 10/12/07
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Not to Mention GEM
maldain | 10/12/07
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GEM does not pre-date the IBM PC ...
mwagner@... | 10/12/07
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How about GEOS on the C/64?
psion@... | 10/12/07
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Actually
weemooseus@... | 10/12/07
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I was more impressed with IBM..
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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I LOVE Prior Art
Timpraetor | 10/12/07
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That may be why Congress is eliminating it.
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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Prior art would still be a factor ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Re: That may be why Congress is eliminating it.
none none | 10/12/07
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Administrative simplicity
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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Re: Administrative simplicity
none none | 10/12/07
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But you can always leave it to Anton
Ole Man | 10/12/07
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Paternity
Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
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Eliminating prior art?
IT_User | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
mrOSX | 10/12/07
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The advancement of useful arts and sciences...
Robert Crocker | 10/12/07
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Add that 2 the fact they waited 10 years....
mrOSX | 10/12/07
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Kick
DirtyDingus | 10/12/07
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Failure to attempt marketing a product should be grounds for:
Update victim | 10/13/07
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Re: The advancement of useful arts and sciences...
none none | 10/12/07
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There are Claims and then there are Claims...
hmoulding@... | 10/13/07
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Doesn't Microoft infringe on this as well?
coverlt@... | 10/12/07
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Technically Not
rjacksix | 10/12/07
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Technically Not
lmenningen | 10/12/07
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What about MDI?
Bruizer | 10/12/07
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Technically, yes
none none | 10/12/07
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One thing to remember here is ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Re: One thing to remember here is ...
none none | 10/12/07
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My Mandriva Linux connects quickly
Bill4 | 10/12/07
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Plan is in motion....
Mike Cox | 10/12/07
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Brings a smile to my face (nt)
el1jones | 10/12/07
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Mike, your rep is grandiloquent.
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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God Bless Ya, Mike
BanjoPaterson | 10/12/07
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Plan is in Motion
lmenningen | 10/12/07
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We have a fish
John L. Ries | 10/12/07
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I'm surprised...
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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Mike strikes fear in the heart of Lovey.
nix_hed | 10/12/07
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indubitably! (NT)
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Hello, Fishie!
nix_hed | 10/12/07
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10.0+ Eloquent and artful in construction
laura.b | 10/12/07
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I took off .5 for the spelling
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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Very well done sir.... 9.8 (nt)
Badgered | 10/12/07
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Re: As I cut my eggs Benedict...
handydan918@... | 10/12/07
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9.0 (NT)
balaknair | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
sj_z | 10/12/07
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Why not sue Sun or IBM?
jacarter3 | 10/12/07
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Have they learned nothing from the SCO debacle?
JonathonDoe | 10/12/07
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They are "putting up", there are patents named
PB_z | 10/12/07
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This is real
crypt2121 | 10/12/07
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Has Micro$oft considered whether or not they can survive
pennatomcat | 10/13/07
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we should stand united against M$ attac dogs!
Linux Geek | 10/12/07
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"We"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Microsoft Is Its Own Worst Enemy
chessmen | 10/12/07
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I fail to see how 90% of your post is relevant.
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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The only part I picked up on...
JCitizen | 10/12/07
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Microsoft's Pattern of Behaviour
chessmen | 10/12/07
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Not who - what a customer is...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Microsoft has no customers now
Ole Man | 10/13/07
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The "whole" community doesn't have congressmen.
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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Just checking on what the patent is actually is?
el1jones | 10/12/07
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Hmmm....
zkiwi | 10/12/07
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That, actually, is a brilliant idea
laura.b | 10/12/07
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Sticky windows?
macoafi | 10/12/07
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What happens when...
KWierso | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
Brane2 | 10/12/07
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and btw...
Brane2 | 10/12/07
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Because this is the first...
Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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They make Ballmer...
bjbrock | 10/12/07
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eolas=patent, sco=copyright.
Skibum | 10/12/07
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prior art
scott1329 | 10/12/07
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patchlevel.h for screen - at 3.0 in 1991!
scott1329 | 10/12/07
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Another bad patent....
techboy_z | 10/12/07
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And the Foil Hat Parade Begins! NT.
bka1959 | 10/12/07
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Starting with you?? NT
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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It seems to me ...
mwagner@... | 10/12/07
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It is pseudo speak for sure
TripleII | 10/12/07
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Amiga
cheesyone | 10/13/07
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ZDNet has deep pockets...
Timpraetor | 10/12/07
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The patent was assigned to Xerox...
Resuna | 10/12/07
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And this is the mystery ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Yes, patents are bought and sold.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Well, yes, obviously it was sold...
Resuna | 10/12/07
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Hundereds of Xerox patents were sold.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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You "couldn't begin to count.."
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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Message has been deleted.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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As if s/he could write a book....
B.O.F.H. | 10/13/07
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Well of course you couldn't
Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
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They shouldn't be IMHO
CobraA1 | 10/12/07
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Very nice, lets patent "Windows"
ohiomike | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
robertrduncan@... | 10/12/07
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mod up!
Rick S._z | 10/12/07
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"One day"?
masonwheeler | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
rone@... | 10/12/07
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To be expected
hoiatl | 10/12/07
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Making a Point?
rjacksix | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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What?
persia | 10/12/07
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RE: What?
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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Didn't you watch the superbowl in 1984 ?
i8thecat | 10/12/07
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More to the story
Chad_z | 10/12/07
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Redhat isn't alone.
TripleII | 10/12/07
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You raise an interesting point
Chad_z | 10/12/07
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What a joke...
3dtodd | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
OKJoe | 10/12/07
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It's a Xerox patent
persia | 10/12/07
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Could be good for everyone
TripleII | 10/12/07
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However the courts are ultimately fraud and need to be kept "honest" by...
xode@... | 10/12/07
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Enough
jswift | 10/12/07
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Hate to say it but...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Agreed
TripleII | 10/12/07
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I have to disagree.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Counterclaims
TripleII | 10/12/07
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Huh? I say again, HUH?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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What don't you get?
TripleII | 10/12/07
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Your ignorance of patents and the courts is showing.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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No_Fax, are you saying?
Ole Man | 10/12/07
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NoAxe, why do you pretend to know what you don't
TripleII | 10/12/07
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Triplell, why did you leave the entire next paragraph out?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Reading Comprehension 101
TripleII | 10/12/07
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And free legal research
John L. Ries | 10/12/07
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The PARENT is correct...
Rick S._z | 10/12/07
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They are smart, you are not.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Right
lmenningen | 10/12/07
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yeah I tend to agree
mdsmedia | 10/12/07
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Patent is invalid
kokuryu | 10/12/07
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It sure seems to be
byoung@... | 10/12/07
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Ah but the real question is
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Your tin foil hat is leaking...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Oh
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Some one has to keep you children in line
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Well
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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You want to sniff my farts??? GROSS !!! (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Hey what you do in the privacy of your
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Instead of lobbing a character attack, how about addressing his point and
xode@... | 10/12/07
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First he must make a point...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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He's right.
hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
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Sorry but this is not a trademark case.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Re: Sorry but this is not a trademark case.
none none | 10/12/07
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Expire means noithing
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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You can't renew patents!
laplatakid | 10/12/07
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True, it gets extended, not re-newed
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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HOMEWORK:
Rick S._z | 10/12/07
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huh? maybe, but not relevant.
Rick S._z | 10/12/07
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Prior art
INGOTIAN | 10/12/07
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RE: Prior art
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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This is Microsoft's problem
THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
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More tin foil needed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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I agree; however,
THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
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You are wrong on one count.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Re: More tin foil needed.
none none | 10/12/07
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Agree 100%
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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RE: This is Microsoft's problem
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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This will be decided at the appeals level ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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This Is A Non-Issue
itanalyst | 10/12/07
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Non-issue?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Sorry NoAxe
mrOSX | 10/12/07
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Expiration date
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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You are right about it still going to court...
mrOSX | 10/12/07
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RE: You are right about it still going to court...
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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Bush???
DirtyDingus | 10/12/07
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We don't know how long they waited...
laplatakid | 10/12/07
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You seem to be clueless on the subject.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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NoAxe maybe you should research before speaking...
mrOSX | 10/12/07
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Nicely done.
handydan918@... | 10/12/07
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YOu are correct, would you like other examples
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Why should anyone here be any different than you?
cheesyone | 10/13/07
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No he isn't...
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Ranting doesn't change facts little one.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Oh NOW
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Show me child...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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First it's you that is the child
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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Dang, You Are SO Easy To Own
itanalyst | 10/15/07
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Patents limits Freedom
Don't Ask Me | 10/12/07
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"it be a new form of Communism"
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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Not Communism
John L. Ries | 10/12/07
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Communism
Don't Ask Me | 10/12/07
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Point being
John L. Ries | 10/12/07
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Sandanistas?
nwoodson@... | 10/15/07
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Public Use problem
weaesq | 10/12/07
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How wrong are thee, let me count the ways...
hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
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RE: How wrong are thee, let me count the ways...
nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
nydas | 10/12/07
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Whatever...
hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
jsjag1 | 10/12/07
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What a joke
xrxca | 10/12/07
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It started in 1967 At SRI
jimparkhurst00@... | 10/12/07
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Reverse that
John L. Ries | 10/12/07
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How about this
THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
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The patent seems all encompassingly broad
lschw1 | 10/12/07
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What about GIS/Cartographic/Drafting prior art?
egads@... | 10/12/07
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Too many patents for common sense things
Randalllind | 10/12/07
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The interesting theing (to me) is seeing
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
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Novell - like the cop at the protest
Mahegan | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
crawdad2k | 10/12/07
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Here's a thought...
zkiwi | 10/12/07
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Some really bad grammar...
Wolfie2K3 | 10/12/07
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Well ... I guess even Red Hat and Novell will be able to keep it ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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What next a patent on breathing
draciron@... | 10/12/07
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Hmmm I just read a very interesting
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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They pretty much have to fight it ...
George Mitchell | 10/12/07
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Ah yes...
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
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@ Blind Believer
RightHandMan | 10/12/07
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Ive Been Looking Too
Ole Man | 10/12/07
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You People see Conspiracies Everywhere!
ballmerrules@... | 10/12/07
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Fear of Looking and Patent Scope
orcmid | 10/12/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
brichter | 10/12/07
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if true this will turn ugly big time
Quebec-french | 10/12/07
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the US economy is already on fire and in a tailspin
stevey_d | 10/13/07
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What about Linspire...
tek_heretik | 10/13/07
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They already whacked them once!
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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Oh yeah, forgot...
tek_heretik | 10/13/07
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The REAL reason why they have not gone after Microsoft ...
George Mitchell | 10/13/07
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Good analysis...
JCitizen | 10/13/07
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If Microsoft is cheering...
Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
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Anton
Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
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You forget ...
George Mitchell | 10/14/07
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Of course MS is a Linux "seller"...
JCitizen | 10/15/07
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Ballmer loaned IP M$'s lawyers...
tek_heretik | 10/13/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
jjjjofus | 10/14/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft
jjjjofus | 10/14/07
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Why Include Novell...
Paradigm_Shift | 10/14/07
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right
atari8bit@... | 05/20/08
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Can they still defend this patent ?
xfer_rdy | 10/14/07
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Whatever Mike Cox says is good enough for me.
D. T. Schmitz | 10/14/07
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WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!
ballmerrules@... | 10/15/07
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Patent Invalid
wwwsupport | 10/15/07
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Red Hat preparing to release their new 'Global Desktop' product ...
George Mitchell | 10/15/07
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Very true!
Ole Man | 10/15/07
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Apple II E
Amaroq | 10/15/07
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RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M
atari8bit@... | 05/20/08
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