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This is why challenge response systems are growing in popularity
i hate them.. cause i have to respond.. but they cut spam by 80%

Graylisting is another useful technology..

The biggest drawbacks of both.. delayed email.

I agree an overhaul needs to take place.. but this is an open system.. open to all and it needs to be fixed as a community. Relying on companies is not the end all.

Get enough people to adopt one peice of technology or method.. the rest will follow when they are left out of the loop.
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You (inncorrectly) assume they want to stop spam.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/07
yeap.  Been_Done_Before | 10/05/07
But..But..Bill Gates Promised Spam Would Be Gone!!!  itanalyst | 10/05/07
That's correct.  nizuse | 10/07/07
couldn't agree with you more  steven.watters@... | 10/08/07
shareholders?  pfyearwood | 10/08/07
What's to stop them?  masonwheeler | 10/10/07
Different how  Apache19 | 10/08/07
Eventually one will take the lead on spam  G Brent LeVasseur | 10/08/07
Dude stop with the links to your website!  D. T. Schmitz | 10/08/07
How True .....  goldenpirate@... | 10/08/07
Email Envelope  cywelchjr | 10/08/07
Correct - They must not or it would be fixed  dmccammishjr@... | 10/11/07
This is why challenge response systems are growing in popularity  Been_Done_Before | 10/05/07
What if shareware creators  other_native | 10/08/07
Challenge Response System Purchased By AOL  t0pcat | 10/08/07
Not enabled by default  santuccie | 10/18/07
My Thunderbird spam filter...  Henrik Moller | 10/05/07
What good is it if...  dberlind | 10/05/07
David - For everyone is the problem isn't it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/07
What I mean by "everyone"...  dberlind | 10/05/07
Not quite so simple  TtfnJohn | 10/08/07
Ok, but  nizuse | 10/05/07
"Good Spam" and "Bad Spam" ...  George Mitchell | 10/07/07
No such thing as "GOOD SPAM"!  brian.s.graham@... | 10/08/07
First stop...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/08/07
Legislating Spam  Dcarm | 10/08/07
So Now It's Six Chores Daily For E-mail  itanalyst | 10/05/07
Even easier...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/08/07
Go on quote him:-)  Richard Flude | 10/05/07
He Never Said That  itanalyst | 10/05/07
It never would have occurred to me...  Henry Miller | 10/05/07
email filtering  Swampdoc | 10/08/07
Do you know what bots are?  Mikael_z | 10/06/07
If you could ban all Windows PC  alaniane@... | 10/08/07
Maybe a good first step though wink  Mikael_z | 10/09/07
Can't you configure your ISP account to NOT filter your mail? I can.  Timpraetor | 10/08/07
The problem is that  alaniane@... | 10/08/07
Re: What good is it  sullivanjc | 10/08/07
ISPs and Spam...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/08/07
One Problem...  rkuhn040172@... | 10/30/07
If It Wasn't For Spam  itanalyst | 10/05/07
Why don't we blame ourselves?  pauliusp | 10/05/07
1000s of telemarketing calls?  Madsmasher | 10/05/07
Before the do not call list  DarthRidiculous | 10/05/07
And the operative phrase is:  laura.b | 10/08/07
Bad analogy  dberlind | 10/05/07
I think you're wrong there......  linux for me | 10/06/07
So the solution to identifying spam already exists?  Anton Philidor | 10/06/07
Are you that stupid?  linux for me | 10/06/07
Post was intended to answer Mr. Berlind's comment.  Anton Philidor | 10/07/07
Pot Calling the Kettle Black?  LegendsOfBatman | 10/08/07
Doesn't happen on my Cox account  CoolbeansG | 10/06/07
I Dont Blame Me  LegendsOfBatman | 10/08/07
Blame ourselves?  laura.b | 10/08/07
Something wrong wth "why don't we blame ourselfs".  Patrick.Hollants@... | 10/10/07
We ARE partly to blame.  colinmeister | 10/16/07
Google spam  sordito | 10/05/07
Who to blame?  itpro_z | 10/05/07
re: laws  Arm A. Geddon | 10/05/07
Laws?  dberlind | 10/05/07
re: laws only govern our country  Arm A. Geddon | 10/05/07
Sorry, I beg to disagree  dberlind | 10/05/07
Actually,  itpro_z | 10/05/07
Don't forget to remove the easy targets for malware  Mikael_z | 10/06/07
Similar to the way...  itpro_z | 10/06/07
Reality  Mikael_z | 10/07/07
Basically I agree.  itpro_z | 10/07/07
The problem with your "reality"  laura.b | 10/08/07
Excuse the format  laura.b | 10/08/07
Who's to blame?  taskman | 10/16/07
A spam filter that works ...  George Mitchell | 10/05/07
OK, so you're saying that EVERYONE should use AT&T?  dberlind | 10/05/07
Each provider should do their own  CoolbeansG | 10/06/07
I'm saying only that it proves it can be done ...  George Mitchell | 10/07/07
What AT&T Uses IS (AFIK)  TtfnJohn | 10/08/07
The solution is here for years...  green alien | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to  rbpickup@... | 10/05/07
good article david.  Arm A. Geddon | 10/05/07
It's not up to them to stop...  bjbrock | 10/05/07
Death to all Spammers!  bobiroc | 10/05/07
Oh, but it's not just the "big four" . . .  CobraA1 | 10/06/07
ISP's biggest problem  waltmaine | 10/06/07
Why do you presume that AOL, Google, Microsoft or Yahoo can do anything?  B.O.F.H. | 10/06/07
Technically ignorant?  FatherJ | 10/08/07
There already IS a "protocol" that will block most spam...  JJQ1000 | 10/08/07
The only 100% reliable way...  D. T. Schmitz | 10/08/07
And if the recipient doesn't know you?  JJQ1000 | 10/11/07
Length of time is not the issue  LegendsOfBatman | 10/08/07
I think my email provider should block  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 10/06/07
Here's a suggestion to think about.  ewyatt | 10/06/07
I have to pay?  CoolbeansG | 10/06/07
It was just a thought...  ewyatt | 10/07/07
OpenPGP / Mandatory  D. T. Schmitz | 10/06/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to blame for spam  jcuyno@... | 10/07/07
Little Davie is at it again  Vesicant | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown  MooMooMooMooMoo | 10/08/07
Gmail & Spam  MooMooMooMooMoo | 10/08/07
RETURN RECEIPT is not part of the system  jensfiederer | 10/08/07
Spam is easy to stop, without nasty side-effects  SteveMak | 10/08/07
Mail filters DON'T STOP SPAM  verbila | 10/08/07
Why Use Spam Filters ...  babyboomer57 | 10/08/07
Follow the money...  Marty R. Milette | 10/08/07
Not anymore  jasonshortphd | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to  spstanley | 10/08/07
Cloudmark Desktop Works Perfectly  Herb3 | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown  cynthia_sparks2002@... | 10/08/07
It can be done  rolf.ernst@... | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to  ken@... | 10/08/07
There "is" another way  ironfist03 | 10/08/07
Enough already  Apache19 | 10/08/07
Big companies cannot get their config right  tony@... | 10/08/07
I have the answer!!!!  pcguy777 | 10/08/07
re: ...  pcguy777 | 10/08/07
The logic of the possible  jinoturistica | 10/08/07
Verizon does OK  kidtree | 10/08/07
Verizon is a spammer's paradise  verbila | 10/08/07
This is silly.  john@... | 10/08/07
I agree with You!  ZenaPrincess | 10/08/07
Agree 100%  stormculture | 10/08/07
While we're at it, let's ask the USPS to stop snail junk mail.  junquemail | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown  rleons2001@... | 10/08/07
spam  Billy-Bob | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown  thammr | 10/08/07
If we could ban all PC's  boguscomputer | 10/08/07
correction  boguscomputer | 10/08/07
Spam, what's Spam, and how can I get some?  tracy anne | 10/08/07
I second that  andrew53 | 10/09/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to blame for spam  goose5843 | 10/08/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to blame for spam  mark.davey@... | 10/09/07
Yahoo is AWFUL!  paul.glowiak@... | 10/11/07
Right on!  pradipsagdeo@... | 10/15/07
a standard solution brings its own problems  cfortune | 10/16/07
Duh. Why don't they CHARGE to handle email?  allenmeece@... | 10/16/07
Push for Challenge-Response  santuccie | 10/18/07
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to blame for spam  danpopp | 11/08/09
RE: Technology Shakedown #9: Why AOL, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are to blame for spam  danpopp | 11/08/09
embrace it  danpopp | 11/08/09

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