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I think the whole "bloated" thing is hogwash.
There's no such thing.

Neither Windows nor Linux are "bloated". Nor is OS/X.

You want functionality you have to pay for it. One man's lean and mean is another man's anemic.
Functionality simply isn't free.

How many lines of code did USB take? How about multi-threading? Which one do you want to give up while slimming down the kernel?

See what I mean? Everybody wants Linux (or Windows or OS/X) to do what *they* want it to do. MS Office (or any office suite) is the same way.

Just because *you* don't need True Type Fonts, or an HTML rendering engine doesn't mean somebody else doesn't.

It's parochialism, pure and simple.

No such thing as bloated. On the other hand, *limited* is all over the place. Why can't a cell phone have a 10,000 hour battery life and communicate via satellite, with 10GB datalinks? Eh? Oh, and be the size of an iPod Shuffle? And have a theater quality projector built in?

Likewise, why can't you create Windows (or Linux or OS/X) to do everything it does now in 64k (not meg, kilobytes) of memory?

Bloated? Don't think so...
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I think the whole "bloated" thing is hogwash.  wolf_z | 09/25/09
Bloat  saboken@... | 09/25/09
Doesn't work for the mainstream  wolf_z | 09/25/09
Linux kernel is like that. Linus' comments are taken out of context  stevey_d | 09/25/09
I think Linus is trying to send a message. Maybe it is not so bad right now  DonnieBoy | 09/25/09
No, he did not say  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
i blame the guy in charge  stevey_d | 09/25/09
Reading is fundemental  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/25/09
The first step would be identifying the "bloat"  Zogg | 09/25/09
Bloated in the context of what?  D. T. Schmitz | 09/25/09
Careful when you say "you".  cornpie | 09/25/09
And this is why Linux will NEVER replace Windows on the desktop.  IT_Guy_z | 09/25/09
Yes, (re)installing windows is lots of fun...  The Mentalist | 09/25/09
Hogwash  Jevans47 | 09/25/09
Yes reality is hard...  The Mentalist | 09/25/09
You give the typical...  FrankleeMiDeer | 09/25/09
Dorothy, wake up dear. That's a nasty bump on your head...  mgp3 | 09/25/09
@FrankleeMiDeer, @mgp3: the talkbacks are a tresure trove  The Mentalist | 09/26/09
True  Viva la crank dodo | 09/25/09
If you reinstall over that, you're incompetent.  wolf_z | 09/25/09
How's that for an "easy to use OS"?  FanaticGeek | 09/25/09
@fanaticgeek  wolf_z | 09/26/09
Nice assumption wolf_z  Viva la crank dodo | 09/28/09
Isn't it obvious?  mgp3 | 09/25/09
Reinstall Windows...  prof123 | 09/28/09
I keep hearing people say that...  FrankleeMiDeer | 09/25/09
agree, stupid is as stupid does  ~doolittle~ | 09/25/09
Can some windoze luvers send me free PCs too?  African Magic | 10/20/09
I am a big Linux fan, but...  NCWeber | 09/28/09
Does that baloney come on rye?  mgp3 | 09/25/09
As opposed to installing a new OS every 6 months?  LiquidLearner | 09/25/09
try seven years  ~doolittle~ | 09/25/09
You should invest more in yourself...  The Mentalist | 09/26/09
sadly, most windows users who need a reinstall, can't even perform the task  ~doolittle~ | 09/25/09
And you think they could do better on a crappier OS like Linux?  transposeIT | 09/27/09
That is the most clueless talkback response ever...  ~doolittle~ | 09/27/09
@~doolittle~ ...  Dave32265 | 09/28/09
Huh?...  Dave32265 | 09/25/09
FUD? Nah...it's just a whole lot of fun pulling people's chains!  IT_Guy_z | 09/25/09
You read too much in  Viva la crank dodo | 09/25/09
Just disable services you dont need  hectormacias | 09/25/09
Was that meant for me?  Viva la crank dodo | 09/28/09
I'm a Linux user, but I agree  vinsai | 09/25/09
Yes, of course  FanaticGeek | 09/25/09
Couldn't agree more  hectormacias | 09/25/09
How many  Viva la crank dodo | 09/28/09
"You" means system builders, but YOU already knew that, didn't you?  The Mentalist | 09/25/09
Ahhh, if only that were true.  cornpie | 09/25/09
Funny,,,  Dave32265 | 09/25/09
Two more 'distro' I've never heard of  Patanjali | 09/27/09
I don't think you're a retard, you just need to stop making things up...  The Mentalist | 09/26/09
Please stop.  PlayFair | 09/26/09
Im one of those  hectormacias | 09/25/09
I understand  Viva la crank dodo | 09/28/09
No. it is bloat, no matter how you try to say otherwise  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
Message has been deleted.  The Mentalist | 09/25/09
Linux fanboys turn on Linus  connor33 | 09/25/09
Many people have tried...  The Mentalist | 09/26/09
I can see you're completely misreading the situation  The Mentalist | 09/26/09
Ubuntu 8.04 runs well on a PIII/800MHz with 384MB ram  914four | 09/29/09
Unless he can present a clear argument  T1Oracle | 09/25/09
Linus isn't stupid, please!  MeMyselfAndI_z | 09/25/09
re: architecting  Olderdan | 09/25/09
I'm a Linus fan  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 09/25/09
If there's bloat, I'm not seeing it  eMJayy | 09/25/09
Tons.  aktazdevil | 09/25/09
modprobe only loads the drivers for hardware that is detected  stevey_d | 09/25/09
Last I used was 8.x  FrankleeMiDeer | 09/25/09
Linux kernel is at 1.6, what is this 8.x?  shis-ka-bob | 09/25/09
Are you in 1990's?  devlin_X | 09/25/09
Just so you know  Acid_1 | 09/27/09
Damned Small Linux with the latest kernel would be nice.  roystonlodge | 09/25/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  bigpicture | 09/25/09
The bloat is in the kernel design  connor33 | 09/25/09
I'd rather fight than switch!  Olderdan | 09/25/09
I suspect Linus would agree  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 09/25/09
puppy linux is a very bloat-free OS (100 MB distro!)  dabruro | 09/25/09
Puppy Linux  Gerry_z | 09/25/09
Define bloated  hectormacias | 09/25/09
A different take on "bloat"  w_c_mead | 09/25/09
Great TalkBack!  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 09/25/09
minimal distro with automatic download of optional components as needed?  dabruro | 09/25/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  kjb6947@... | 09/25/09
haha  progress76 | 09/25/09
Linux Can beat the bloat  olddogv | 09/25/09
Does anyone know what Puppy and Damn Small Linux are?  D. T. Schmitz | 09/25/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  rnagy2009 | 09/25/09
I don't find it that big an issue  Scratchi | 09/25/09
Yes, it is bloated. That too is Moore's law  mheartwood | 09/25/09
Linux is a general purpose kernel  connor33 | 09/25/09
Re-hashing "Linux is obsolete" from AST  cryptikonline | 09/25/09
Monokernels exist for same reason that Unix still exists  connor33 | 09/25/09
But OS/X is Unix!  shis-ka-bob | 09/25/09
Was more talking about server Unix, but point remains  connor33 | 09/25/09
Please stop spreading BS  honeymonster | 09/26/09
Still on 40 year old OS architecture  Patanjali | 09/27/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  richdave | 09/25/09
Some of you have missed the point  fletchoid | 09/26/09
Linux Geeks will never solve all your problems for you  Ole Man | 09/26/09
The Drivers should be offered as separate files ouside the kernel  directory | 09/27/09
Already bloated but can only do very minimal tasks...Tsk-tsk  transposeIT | 09/27/09
it's difficult to hammer a nail with a screwdriver  ~doolittle~ | 09/27/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  Mr Piston | 09/28/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  paul5082 | 09/28/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  Diane84 | 09/29/09
RE: Can Linux beat the bloat  Makaveli1110 | 09/30/09
KDE 4  rebelxhardcore | 10/22/09

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