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I did Richard. You are still a very one sided thinker.

It was illegal for Steve Jobs to allow backdating of stock option dates. no?


BeOS was stopped from being part of OS X, which was ok, but then Jobs refused BeOS critical architectural information about it's G3 line of computers, making BeOS unable to run on the newer machines. Illegal? Probably. BeOS was broke when it reached the x86 architecture and there is no guilt found against MS that ever proved in any way they stopped them from competing.

DR-DOS - Again, read the wikipedia entry for a quick overview. What was DR-DOS ended up being Open source and breaking the GPL for which it had to make things right.
In the meantime, there is a time when MS put in code...in test code....that would block apps from installing on anything but the MS-DOS OS , I believe that is correct. That never, ever, never went into production and DR-DOS was not stopped from competing. They were very well positioned in fact when Novell came swooping in and bought them out and changed everything about DR-DOS. That was the end of it's challenge against MS, not anything that MS did, ever. That is historically factual information. Nobody knows what would have happened had Novell not stepped in and change the game, taking DR-DOS effectively out of competition with MS-DOS. They tried to turn it into a product for netware, or something like that..go read it and you'll know. I know you want MS to be the bad guy, but they clearly were not. DR-DOS never recovered from what Novell did to it......except end up open source and NON COMPLIANT. Basically DR-DOS would have been what IBM used, but the company owner thought he could blow off IBM and meet at his own time, being a maverick and all. Sorry Charlie, you snooze, you lose.


What I find very odd is that a company with far fewer resources throughout the 80s, with only core components that could only be licensed to build a new OS and nothing else, than a dozen large government backed (either directly or indirectly) Mega companies, MS was able to change the IT world in FOUR years and capture a market that apparently SUN, APPLE, IBM and many others had never conceived of....or were they aiming for it, but wanted it to take 25 to 30 years for some honest and good hearted reason?

No matter what the judge, who spoke to the press showing clear prejudice against Microsoft, which in any other case in the land would have forced that judge to recuse himself from the case, did it was clear that it was a political matter. If you read the early stages of the case, initially the DoJ/Courts said there was no grounds on which to proceed. Perhaps I want to believe the jurisprudence of that court, rather than that of one where the judge should have been recused due to worst kind of behavior a federal judge could possibly show in a civil case....bias.

You go ahead and stick with what you got, cause it's all you have and you've reveled in it for a long long time, but secretly knowing it had big huge asterisk beside that in reality nullifies it for all intents and purposes. They did not get split up and the punishment was nothing more than pandering to those very companies who couldn't figure out how to make a user friendly, low cost computer that a majority of people in the industrialized world could afford. Perhaps SUN or IBM or APPLE felt their products were too good to be used by mere "regular everyday people" and should only be enjoyed by aristocrats, scientists and educators.

Is "Opportunist" a good word for Gates in your mind? I truely believe that you are one of many people who truely cannot stand winners in the world. You are always for the underdog, of course MS was the underdog at one point and put IBM in it's place and shut down it's PC business for the most part. I'm not sure why a person like you would not have been happy that PCs with open architecture was the result of that. You don't strike me as one who backed microchannel or Appletalk and all other proprietary hardware and software protocols employed by the "big guns" of that era.

So basically because a man and his company were simply smarter than the rest of all IT mindshare put together, they now must suffer your wrath eh?

Are you that way in sports? I'm guessing if you follow sports at all, you tend to hate any team that builds a dynasty, no matter how talented the team is, you simply seem them as being "opportunists" and "underhanded" because they are talented and smart enough to beat everyone else

Netscape. Read wikipedia entry. There is no guilt found on Microsoft. After Netscape crushed Mosaic, and came up with a little reptilian mascot to represent how they were "MO saic K"illa"s, they got a little surprise of their own. A legal browser with every copy of windows. Remember, that very court you honor and worship to this day, also ordered that MS put it's browser BACK in, after they removed it at the court's request. So IE preinstalled on Windows was perfectly legal. According to everything I read and experienced, Netscape dropped their browser product, dropped supporting any new HTML versions and tried to build some cockamamie product that did nothing.
MS did settle with Netscape, but companies routinely do it because it's cheaper than court, not because they are guilty. If we are going to start saying any settlement means guilt, then open source and Apple and IBM and SUN and Google are all criminal entities to the MAX.

Sure, once they got inside the company and could read email at will they made a case. You would find that in any company. And email, as well as talkback posts, have a phenomenon where the reader assumes the author's tone and seriousness, withoiut anything to tell the reader that is such.

There is enough guilt to go around the entire IT industry when it comes to playing by the rules, but we just simply seem to ignore when Google or IBM is abusing small companies in other countries, basically crushing them with an army of lawyers and money. Why is that so here on zdnet? Google, Apple and Sun, to give a few examples, have committed acts of cutting off air supply of competitors, time and again, but that never is discussed here. Everyone that is not MS, gets a free pass.

You can claim otherwise, but it boils down to one thing. Jealousy, envy and contempt for those who do not believe and think exactly like you. These are sins in the Lord's eyes and both cause the fighting the world has seen since the beginning of life on Earth, or around 15,000 to 25,000 years ago.

Posted by: xuniL_z   Posted on: 07/02/09  (Edited: 07/02/2009 @ 11:19) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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