Um. what?
JT82 | 05/18/09
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Well, with most OEMs, you can not get Linux pre-installed, and you void the
DonnieBoy | 05/18/09
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re: oem install....
Christian_<>< | 05/18/09
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RE: re: oem install
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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Re: Donnie boy
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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What kind of analogy is that?
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Dell does not sell Linux everywhere
jorjitop | 05/18/09
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RE: Dell does not sell Linux everywhere
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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To offer choice
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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You have a choice
EasyDuzit | 05/19/09
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But not pre-installed
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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It is pre-installed. At least...
ye | 05/19/09
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No, it's not
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Back to the superfluous criteria again I see.
ye | 05/19/09
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And you're still in denial, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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RE: Linux and the channel
mr1972 | 05/18/09
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Why not Wine for ppt?
daboochmeister | 05/22/09
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My company standardized on 2007...
mr1972 | 05/26/09
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A New Brand of Super-Premium Ice Cream: Tying in the U.S.
no_zd_user_name | 05/18/09
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Garbage!
ShadeTree | 05/19/09
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That title is a very good auto analysis
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Call
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Dell.
ye | 05/19/09
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That's a 'no citation' for ye. Next?
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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I see your ignorance is breeding desperation.
ye | 05/19/09
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Another reader is being intellectually honest. Why not you?
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz: The problem is they're wrong.
ye | 05/19/09
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That's only if you order online
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Walking into the store is a red herring.
ye | 05/19/09
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I want Linux to get a fair shake, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@anythingbutvista: Thanks separating fact from fiction! 
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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AnythingButViista: Then by all means do something about it.
ye | 05/19/09
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Final Citation Count: 0
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Final citation count: 3. Total citations ignored: 3 (nt)
ye | 05/19/09
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more crap from ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Yes, it is an answer.
ye | 05/19/09
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Next load of crap from ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Key word: PAST.
ye | 05/19/09
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And still further crap from ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: I asked for evidence.
ye | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Still waiting on that evidence I requested.
ye | 05/20/09
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You shills days are coming, ye...
UAC nanny screen | 05/20/09
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Micro Center for another.
ye | 05/19/09
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That's another 'no citation' for ye. Next?
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Celeron is a current processor.
ye | 05/19/09
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Have you noticed it's placed last, four levels deep into the site hierarchy
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Someone with some objectivity...
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Why the superfluous requirements?
ye | 05/19/09
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@ye: You want people to have a choice , right?
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Because ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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4:00PM EST--Citations given thus far: 0
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Dell is one of the top PC manufacturers.
ye | 05/19/09
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Again Final Citation Count: 0
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Again: Final citation count: 3. Total citations ignored: 3 (nt)
ye | 05/19/09
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And still more crap from ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: And it's still the bulk of their business today.
ye | 05/19/09
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ye and still more crap
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Very good. You get a gold star!
ye | 05/19/09
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And more denial crap from ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: No, I have not.
ye | 05/19/09
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Yes you have, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/20/09
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Funny! Have you noticed this?
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Maybe because M$ told them to?
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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walmart did offer a retail desktop and laptop in their stores for a
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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Another 'no citation' for brokndodge. Any other takers step forward!
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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my point was simply that walmart tried it in their birck and morter stores.
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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He understands your point. He just doesn't want to accept it.
ye | 05/19/09
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I appreciate your point but was looking for current examples. Thanks!!
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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@ye - the thing is it does sell, really well
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz - sold out doesn't mean not currant (nt)
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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@brokndodge: Then I propose it wasn't Linux that made the systems...
ye | 05/19/09
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@ye - that is exactly what made it attractive. the masses don't even know
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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@ ye and brokndodge
storm14k | 05/19/09
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@storm14k : Apparently they will not.
ye | 05/19/09
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--Final Citation Count: 0
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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-- Final citation count: 3. Total citations ignored: 3 (nt)
ye | 05/19/09
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@ ye...what returns?
storm14k | 05/19/09
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More denial by Dietrich T. Schmitz.
ye | 05/19/09
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Let's get some examples Folks! Step up to the mic! 0 Examples so far.
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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@brokndodge: Those links are 'site to store', not 'in-store'
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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"In-store" is a red herring. Created solely so you can pretend...
ye | 05/19/09
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This is a call for walk-in store citations ONLY. That was stated up front.
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz : Which changes nothing. It's still a red herring...
ye | 05/19/09
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Tally so far: Zero (0) Citations
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Tally so far: 3. Total citations ignored: 3 (nt)
ye | 05/19/09
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One Thing
NoThomas | 05/19/09
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Your points are well taken...I am saying...
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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I seem to be missing your point...
NoThomas | 05/19/09
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See this thread...
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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Like ye, NoThomas misses the point
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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NoThomas is correct, we don't call the system you spec'ed out a desktop...
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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See this thread
no_zd_user_name | 05/20/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz - what if anything does that post have
brokndodge@... | 05/20/09
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@brokndodge: you are off topic see this thread for summary points
no_zd_user_name | 05/21/09
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Only Target sells a Linux laptop ...
MisterMiester | 05/19/09
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That's as close as anybody has come
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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I think Target stopped selling all computers ...
MisterMiester | 05/19/09
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Right you are!
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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You got me beat Dietrich!
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes  | 05/19/09
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Advertising? According to many the demand is already present.
ye | 05/19/09
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If they (M$) stop advertising they'll lose to Linux.
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Bottom line is not Ad $$$, it's 'Tying'--an illegal practice.
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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If you have evidence of tying then I suggest you forward it to the FTC.
ye | 05/19/09
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No one wants Linux....
storm14k | 05/19/09
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Well, when you only put out five they're bound to sell out.
ye | 05/19/09
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Aren't you forgetting something?
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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If it were simple...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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I never said it would be simple.
ye | 05/19/09
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I did not say that you said it would be simple.
storm14k | 05/19/09
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@storm14k: Why the need for a store front?
ye | 05/19/09
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Well you make it sound so
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Raising capital for such a sure fire money...
ye | 05/19/09
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I have a bridge to sell, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@ye...you may have an idea...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: Apparently the idea there is significant money...
ye | 05/19/09
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@storm14k: Excuses, excuses, excuses. Linux folks are full of them.
ye | 05/19/09
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This isn't about us being venture capitalists, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/20/09
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In other words....
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Precisely.
ye | 05/19/09
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No actually...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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storm14k, I call it ...
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Without choice, you can't expect consumer demand
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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There's NO level playing field
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Naked truth... 
Solid Water | 05/19/09
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BINGO. We have a winner.
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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The problem is you can buy a computer without an OS.
ye | 05/19/09
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You gave an example of Celeron (circa 1998 chip) which the 'M' repackaged
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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I gave an example of a CURRENT processor.
ye | 05/19/09
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It is NOT cutting edge technology, ye
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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@AnythingButViista: So what?
ye | 05/19/09
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Keep lying, ye...
UAC nanny screen | 05/20/09
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Oh really???
storm14k | 05/19/09
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Micro Center is not a store for techies. I see many, many...
ye | 05/19/09
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To wrap things up, Citation Count is: 0
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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To wrap things up: Total citation count: 3. Total citations ignored: 3 (nt)
ye | 05/19/09
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Dana Blankenhorn: MIA?
no_zd_user_name | 05/19/09
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MS install tax
Christian_<>< | 05/18/09
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There is no such tax.
ShadeTree | 05/19/09
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Anyone wanting to buy a new machine...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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I am with you...
Solid Water | 05/19/09
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I have done the same...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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You should see about getting your money back
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Stop lying, ShadeTree
UAC nanny screen | 05/19/09
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Well you've clearly identified a need not being met by others.
ye | 05/18/09
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Here's the attention you don't deserve.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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How so?
ye | 05/18/09
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Have you heard of the AMD antitrust case in the EU?
InAction Man | 05/18/09
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I don't know. Why don't you tell me?
ye | 05/18/09
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Thanks for your reply.
InAction Man | 05/18/09
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You didn't answer the question.
ye | 05/18/09
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No ye, you didn't answer the question.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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@kozmcrae: LOL! How can I answer a question that had not yet been asked?
ye | 05/18/09
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Sorry ye.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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RE: Thanks for your reply.
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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I'm sorry for being too subtle.
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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You need to answer this question...
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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The question is irrelevant.
ye | 05/18/09
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BZZZZT! Wrong.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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I gave you the chance to save face. You should have taken it.
ye | 05/18/09
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No you didn't!
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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I'm waiting.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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@kozmcrae: If you can demonstrate relevancy then I'll answe the question.
ye | 05/19/09
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You're being too cruel, please reconsider.
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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That's typical ye lol...
UAC nanny screen | 05/20/09
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RE: You need to answer this question...
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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I've heard flatulence that's more truthful than you're rantings.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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You don't know what you're talking about!
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Wild, unsubstantiated rubbish
Economister | 05/18/09
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Wrong!!! Just look at the auto industry.
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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well, you do have to turn a few services off and turn speed stepping on
brokndodge@... | 05/19/09
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10 hours, sleeping or hibernating - sure
Economister | 05/19/09
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RE: Linux and the channel
Gladiatorcn | 05/18/09
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They are both for the same market.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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RE: We are watching your desktop dominance erode
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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Just like a Microsoft lap dog.
kozmcrae | 05/18/09
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Windoze offered me the worse computing experiences I ever had!!!
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Why were you compiling software?
storm14k | 05/19/09
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More Rubbish
Col Mustard | 05/18/09
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To his credit he did reference Linux and not Open Solaris.
ye | 05/19/09
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His Claims are good! Have you considered what V*sta does to a netbook?
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Did you pick a desktop/laptop optimized Solaris distro?
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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RE: Linux and the channel
jdbukis@... | 05/19/09
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The only power setting that works well in widoze is
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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RE: Linux and the channel
bobfastner | 05/19/09
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Exactly!
ye | 05/19/09
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The problem is...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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Then put it in front of the people!
ye | 05/19/09
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Actually....
storm14k | 05/19/09
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What actual numbers?
ITLeader | 05/19/09
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It comes from the netbook manufacturers...
storm14k | 05/19/09
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So stop talking and do it. Prove me wrong.
ye | 05/19/09
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Here is YOUR claim
storm14k | 05/19/09
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@storm14k: Oh but I have.
ye | 05/19/09
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Someone has clearly learned from Intel
Alan Smithie | 05/19/09
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I'm not so sure who learned what from who.
InAction Man | 05/19/09
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Linux uses less power?
dougrc68 | 05/19/09
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RE: Linux and the channel
jashaw314@... | 06/09/09
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