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How can we judge a man on something...
... if he doesn't know what it is? Does President Obama even know what "Open Source" means? I can't hammer the man because he's "against" open source, as much as I can celebrate him because he's "for" it; it's a meaningless term to him.

The only thing I can hold against the Obama Administration are the things he and Vice President Biden have actually done... and those are much more negative, in my eyes, than being "against" something that means nothing to them. Voting for FISA? Bad! Biden's longtime support and funding from the RIAA and MPAA? Bad! The general policy of the Democratic Party in favour of the entertainment industry, and other large corporations who have their hands in the DRM pot? Bad!
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I think that like most people outside of IT  Michael Kelly | 05/14/09
How can we judge a man on something...  superbus | 05/14/09
doesnt suprise me  Jimster480 | 05/15/09
Want a t-shirt?  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
I suspect the President knows what open source is  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
I don' think he knows how to wipe his ****.  bendib | 05/16/09
Why the word socialist is now more popular than Republican  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
Actually, the facts don't back up your statements...  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
Speaking of getting your facts right...  914four | 05/17/09
... yea hmmm....  shadfurman | 05/18/09
Reply to shadfurman  914four | 05/18/09
You actually don't know the meaning of "facts" or "truth"  adornoe@... | 05/22/09
Way to misread it  ITLeader | 05/18/09
To a liberal, it all depends upon what the meaning of "is" is...  adornoe@... | 05/22/09
WOW !!  pizzaman7 | 05/18/09
...but you DID dignify it with a reaction...  shadfurman | 05/18/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  bran.murray | 05/14/09
The only way he'd be interested in open source  frgough | 05/14/09
It's too bad American business has been failing  Michael Kelly | 05/14/09
Unsustainable models.  fr0thy2 | 05/14/09
It's good to see your warper/fantasy perspectives...  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Read below...when  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
It took 80 years...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
He still doesn't have a need to  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
BINGO - Don't tell frothy...he thinks Gov is the  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Exactly...  SAStarling | 05/15/09
Government is neither the problem nor the solution  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
A complete, deliberate misreading of history  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Which is why he'd likely not be a supporter  JohnMcGrew@... | 05/15/09
Certainly it can be controlled by fiat  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
No One's Forcing Them  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
Re: No One's Forcing Them  zeblonite | 05/15/09
I guess so  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
@Albee_Freeoneday  PollyProteus | 05/15/09
Good Point...nt  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Sounds like socialism to me! 9N/T  windozefreak | 05/15/09
BINGO!  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
No government? move to Somalia  rarsa | 05/15/09
And,  windozefreak | 05/15/09
There is precedent for that...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Cops and robbers  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
No student should be afraid of giving away linux.  bendib | 05/16/09
I would really like to see some evidence...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
You got that right  ITLeader | 05/14/09
he has been around long enough to have an opinion  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
Depends on whether he feels  GuidingLight | 05/14/09
He Likes it For Him But Not Anyone Else  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
You got that right  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
Who is this "Blessed One" you keep talking about?  Roc Riz | 05/15/09
LOL - Ask Oprah - happy nt  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
WTF does Oprah have to do with ANYTHING?  Roc Riz | 05/15/09
Well, she keeps Ben & Jerry's afloat.  James T. Kirk | 05/15/09
If the "blessed -one" is Obama then  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
re:JohnE - very good LOL!! nt  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Please do  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
You need to get over Yourself....  windozefreak | 05/15/09
code words  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
God bless your soul!  bendib | 05/16/09
Obama's thoughts on Open Source?  SAStarling | 05/15/09
Besides  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
I'd love to sit & have a beer with you...  SAStarling | 05/15/09
And your health care is not his business  windozefreak | 05/15/09
I'm dying, but no longer because of cancer.  deedeedubya | 05/16/09
Heard the good news about ZDNet Healthcare?  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
Social Security:  CodeCurmudgeon | 05/18/09
I Hear Ya!  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Open Source is just another business model.  Zukuzu | 05/14/09
Because this president is a fascist in the classic sense  frgough | 05/14/09
And he wouldn't have done any of that  Michael Kelly | 05/14/09
WRONG  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
LOL... grin Yeah we need more Bernie Madoff's out there  Wintel BSOD | 05/15/09
You really believe that?  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Boy you really are either on the outside of  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Classic Textbook Fascism  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/09
You had a lousy teacher then  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
But Hitler nationalized very little  John L. Ries | 05/15/09
Indirect control  mr.m.j.kelly | 05/15/09
but Ford supported Hitler  cferriby | 05/15/09
Please Re-study...  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Your text books didn't understand Fascism.  CodeCurmudgeon | 05/18/09
Are you serious?  mr.m.j.kelly | 05/15/09
Yes!  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Financial Darwinism...  PollyProteus | 05/15/09
A Good Point  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
If an organization is too big to fail. . .  CodeCurmudgeon | 05/18/09
I might have to revisit, but...  John L. Ries | 05/15/09
Facist Corporations aren't even voted for.  fr0thy2 | 05/14/09
What a load of crop (misspelled to not irritate)  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Nice balanced viewpoint  dano-z | 05/15/09
Excuse me...  James T. Kirk | 05/15/09
that contridicts what your point is  cferriby | 05/15/09
You can't debate what you don't know  windozefreak | 05/15/09
CRA  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
@ ^  James T. Kirk | 05/16/09
NO! You mindless twirp!  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Right Again...Bush was not a great  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Responsible politicians? Where?  mr.m.j.kelly | 05/15/09
No he isn't.  James T. Kirk | 05/15/09
Nope -  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Perfect and accurate. He's a Euro Socialist -  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
You are deluitional  rarsa | 05/15/09
A simple check of history should set you straight  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
What deluted history are you talking about?  windozefreak | 05/15/09
You make a funny  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
You lost  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Denying the facts does not make you right  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Uh huh...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Turning us into a green communist state is not the right thing  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
That's a bit dire  dano-z | 05/15/09
Excellent! Bravo!  mr.m.j.kelly | 05/15/09
Absolutely agreed  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
a clear example....  goff256 | 05/15/09
Your employer will be asking for a drug test...  SAStarling | 05/15/09
The POTUS isn't doing anything  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
when you own it  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
Please make up your mind  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
Hitler and Mao do have a lot in common  LBiege | 05/14/09
Chairman Mao  elderlybloke | 05/14/09
Yes, but before that...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
I hope so  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Let them continue...  storm14k | 05/14/09
Kudo's to storm14k  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
Alinsky  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Alinsky  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
Splitting hars  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
You Are Kind Of Right  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
Think again....  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Sorry But, You'd Better Check Again  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
But we're a democracy  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Pepsi, Coca-cola, Royal Crown  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
You bring up two good points  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
My vote is for 'C'...  Roc Riz | 05/15/09
If you want to know how, check this out:  cornpie | 05/15/09
Re; Please make up your mind.  hkommedal | 05/19/09
Banking and auto industry  elderlybloke | 05/14/09
Wrong on all counts...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Speaking of wrong...  Ralph Wells | 05/15/09
Try the historical record  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
I'm shocked... shocked I tell you  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
You're not qualified to recognize "wrong"  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Sooo very sorry  Ralph Wells | 05/15/09
Both sides have a right to their opinion  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Please validate your "facts"  dano-z | 05/15/09
Not possible in this discussion...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Healthcare  Timothy (TRiG) | 05/15/09
... continued  Timothy (TRiG) | 05/15/09
Re; government health care should be enough to scare you  hkommedal | 05/19/09
You Are Wrong  windozefreak | 05/15/09
No one was required to make loans  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
You have not done your homweork  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
amusing  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
Buggy Whips  Albee_Freeoneday | 05/15/09
He is not a Fascist.  codeguy007 | 05/15/09
Time to flee?  John L. Ries | 05/15/09
SOS  windozefreak | 05/15/09
A little bit of history...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Because...  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Why would you ever NOT fight him when he's wrong  frgough | 05/14/09
Yes we did  ITLeader | 05/14/09
You are a good example of..  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
He's a better example of  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
You guys are funny  ITLeader | 05/15/09
Why not argue by presenting the facts?  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
Well, bring something besides talking points  ITLeader | 05/18/09
This is a very old argument  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
lessons of history  Loggies | 05/15/09
Yes  Altotus | 05/15/09
Actually, no he doesn't have a point there  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
Actually, you're absolutely wrong...  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
Every President gets a honeymoon...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
If every Prez gets a honeymoon, then...  SAStarling | 05/15/09
Good point...but I think it's starting to come  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
You look the other way, of course...  John L. Ries | 05/15/09
To elaborate  John L. Ries | 05/15/09
Thank you for that...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  jimmyed2000 | 05/14/09
An interesting point  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  jimmyed2000 | 05/14/09
That is another good question  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
Don't say that...  rapson | 05/14/09
Don't DARE say that...  Roc Riz | 05/15/09
Yes it does..  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Another Foxercised Fanatic  windozefreak | 05/15/09
Do some independent thinking...  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
Independent thinking  ITLeader | 05/18/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  Try2Ketchup | 05/14/09
What does it say about OSS when Government intervention is sought out?  mikefarinha | 05/14/09
It says it's up against a convicted monopoly.  fr0thy2 | 05/14/09
So, those black helicopters flew away long enough  GuidingLight | 05/14/09
It Says...  windozefreak | 05/15/09
Government intervention  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/14/09
Government shouldn't pick winners and losers  mikefarinha | 05/14/09
Very nice. You're not a Whig  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Think a little bit...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
YOu have that completely backwards.  cornpie | 05/16/09
Marbury vs. Madison  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
It says Open Source = Detroit UAW  LBiege | 05/14/09
That's a little harsh but it's time for Unions to  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Forget that, why not bring back child labor?  jbroche18 | 05/18/09
as opposed to, say, AIG?  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Ya Know...  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  anonymous99 | 05/14/09
lame joke  Linux Geek | 05/14/09
Hello? I believe he means  GuidingLight | 05/14/09
More Likely the citizenry  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
You are hysterical  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
What Malfeasance???  windozefreak | 05/15/09
Yes that is a joke....  storm14k | 05/14/09
Silly little you....  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Ouch. But Hey he wrote two successful books  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
he was more experianced than she was  cferriby | 05/15/09
senarot vs governor  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
You are a joke  ITLeader | 05/15/09
Have you ever heard of the word "experience"?  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
BS on your experience  ITLeader | 05/15/09
Obama can't even spell "intelligence"  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
hahaha  ITLeader | 05/15/09
A little trivia for you  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Wrong question, and very wrong comparisons...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
my right and your right  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
You're right.. In a way...  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
The Majority of The Voters Said So!!!  windozefreak | 05/15/09
At least she has executive experience  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
Look at what Buchco, Inc. left for the current administration.  Roc Riz | 05/15/09
Get you head our of your you know what...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Yea! Poor Me Bull SH__  windozefreak | 05/15/09
knowledge vs. talking points  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
Unfortunate way of thinking...  adornoe@... | 05/16/09
@adornoe. Really unfortunate  ITLeader | 05/18/09
Reply to ITLeader...  adornoe@... | 05/22/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  midgarddragon@... | 05/14/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  pigiron | 05/14/09
Why Don't you Check and...  windozefreak | 05/15/09
Obama is human and fallible.  peter_erskine@... | 05/14/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  tonymcs@... | 05/14/09
Attn. tonymcs  elderlybloke | 05/14/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  someitguy79 | 05/15/09
That is the least of our problems.  James T. Kirk | 05/15/09
AMEN Brother! - nt  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
It depends on how it promotes his agenda  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
We've been embracing "communism" for eight years...  storm14k | 05/15/09
Speaking of senseless  hiraghm@... | 05/15/09
Don't waste your finger muscles. Storm is  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
Also...  Dave32265 | 05/15/09
It doens't happen overnight  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
That's why...  Dave32265 | 05/15/09
Try to pay attention...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Removing ...  Dave32265 | 05/15/09
Term Limits (or "In Condemnation of the 22nd Amendment")  jbroche18 | 05/18/09
You Talk About Constitution...  windozefreak | 05/15/09
Not All open Source is Free (as in beer)...  Dave32265 | 05/15/09
That is an excellent point, Dave...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
OBAMA: EXPLOIT NOT INNOVATE  scott1329 | 05/15/09
We don't know that  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
I think the problem is not to be or not Open source.  magallanes | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  codeguy007 | 05/15/09
Totally wrong focus...  David Gale | 05/15/09
You must be kidding  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Wrong.  David Gale | 05/15/09
You sound like a good candidate for Obamaland  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
An American...?  David Gale | 05/15/09
You must be the twin of Obama...  adornoe@... | 05/15/09
Correction  David Gale | 05/16/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  zdnet@... | 05/15/09
...it goes further!  David Gale | 05/15/09
Total BS  windozefreak | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  theriginalgeekmom | 05/15/09
Obama and business  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  rparker009 | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  rparker009 | 05/15/09
I would think Obama has bigger fish to fry than  US Is ! Europe-ThankGod! | 05/15/09
OSS Proponents - own worst enemy  mlambert890@... | 05/15/09
Open source and F/OSS  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
sorry i am confused  vachi | 05/15/09
Because their teachers say so  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  ilnaras | 05/15/09
Flame War!  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
LMAO!!!  James T. Kirk | 05/15/09
Yes, but Obama...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  StoneSatellite | 05/15/09
Hate to break this to you...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Hate to break this to you...  StoneSatellite | 05/15/09
bah....  sir_cheats_alot@... | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  Catalonia | 05/15/09
Ummm... I Didn't Know Torture Was Part of This Topic  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Maybe long ZDNet threads are a form of torture?  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
Hehe...  Tracy_Barber@... | 05/15/09
Dana, you disappoint me  ShermB | 05/17/09
That's the point  jbroche18 | 05/18/09
Who gives a rat?  Narg | 05/15/09
Apparently you do...  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  Returningking.com | 05/15/09
It's very important  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  MatzG | 05/15/09
WTF does Open Source software have to do  unclefixer@... | 05/15/09
Open Source vs. FOSS  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/15/09
PS- If you're so angry at the RIAA and MPAA  unclefixer@... | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  davotnz@... | 05/15/09
RE: Where does Obama stand on open source?  kordoniss@... | 05/16/09
Pool of Siloam  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/09
I really don't care what obama thinks about open source...  shadfurman | 05/18/09
Two kinds of creators  CodeCurmudgeon | 05/18/09

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