What did MS do wrong?
mdemuth | 03/07/09
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Plenty of possible causes
Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/07/09
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In that case
mdemuth | 03/07/09
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Brilliant suggestion
Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/07/09
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I'm talking about
mdemuth | 03/07/09
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Usually I'd agree with you
colinnwn | 03/09/09
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OSS file system
Update victim | 03/09/09
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stop kidding yourself and others
BrutalTruth | 03/07/09
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Huh? Linux DOES use GPLv2!
Zogg | 03/07/09
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The problem is Section 7 of GPL *2*, not 3.
wolf_z | 03/09/09
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No it doesn't
dgrainge | 03/09/09
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What part of...
wolf_z | 03/09/09
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not patent friendly at all but
jtiner | 03/09/09
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Grasping at straws
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/07/09
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That's an important point
DanaBlankenhorn | 03/08/09
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In a sick, twisted kind of way
mdemuth | 03/08/09
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WRONG !!!
mrlinux | 03/09/09
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In any event
akulkis | 03/09/09
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nope
owner@... | 03/09/09
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Who knows what Microsoft told anybody to do?
Ole Man | 03/09/09
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re:Who knows what Microsoft told anybody to do?
owner@... | 03/09/09
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M$ not at fault
plovelace@... | 03/09/09
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LOL: like GPL does not suggest violate MS
wellduh | 03/11/09
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It's a RICO case
dwinsemius@... | 03/09/09
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Interesting idea
djchandler | 03/09/09
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I've been saying for years
akulkis | 03/09/09
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re:I've been saying for years
owner@... | 03/09/09
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maybe...
viztor | 03/11/09
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That only applies to trademark
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
razzledazzle | 03/07/09
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Your lack of knowledge of the GPL
kozmcrae | 03/07/09
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C'mon Koz!
MGP2 | 03/07/09
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I second the motion!
914four | 03/09/09
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Don't ask him to do something logical, we know where that goes (NT)
LiquidLearner | 03/09/09
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Ouch!
razzledazzle | 03/07/09
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Finding the information is one thing.
kozmcrae | 03/07/09
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Correct!
Ole Man | 03/09/09
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MS owns Fat32
LiquidLearner | 03/09/09
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"That's how it's supposed to work"
Ole Man | 03/09/09
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"Linux is using a technology..."
PollyProteus | 03/10/09
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Blinders?
jtiner | 03/10/09
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MS owns FAT32?
ceo255 | 03/27/09
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Wrong GPL
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Have you ever read the GPL that covers the Linux kernel?
devlin_X | 03/08/09
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Linus is not sole copyright holder on the Linux kernel
Zogg | 03/08/09
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Uh...
914four | 03/09/09
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Did you mean to reply to my post?
Zogg | 03/09/09
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Yes
914four | 03/10/09
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The GNU General Public License
Ole Man | 03/09/09
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This still does nothing to invalidate my point.
devlin_X | 03/09/09
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Yes, your error was relatively minor compared to his. (NT)
Zogg | 03/09/09
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Legal Merits
DanaBlankenhorn | 03/08/09
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The USPTO to get it overturned.
osreinstall | 03/07/09
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"One way licensing doesn't violate the GPL."
Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/07/09
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I think you are thinking about GPLv3
osreinstall | 03/07/09
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And that...
wolf_z | 03/09/09
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Another thing
osreinstall | 03/09/09
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Ditch vFAT/FAT32 and go for a GPL-friendly file system
Tony Agudo | 03/07/09
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Or ditch a GPL OS for a BSD based OS which appears to be more...
ye | 03/07/09
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Bingo
frgough | 03/07/09
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Which is why
LiquidLearner | 03/09/09
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Uh, no.
914four | 03/09/09
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Multiple Licenses - same product
Timpraetor | 03/09/09
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Re:Multiple Licenses - same product
jtiner | 03/09/09
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Of course, Tom Tom has an affirmative defence
akulkis | 03/09/09
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To akulkis
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
obvio.capitao@... | 03/07/09
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Are You Nuts?
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/07/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
Kelledin | 03/07/09
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Disagree
razzledazzle | 03/07/09
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Inciting Infringement?!
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/07/09
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How you argue Microsoft is inciting infringement
DanaBlankenhorn | 03/08/09
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I Don't Think That Cuts It
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/08/09
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Oops...
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/08/09
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The "incitement" may be
Timpraetor | 03/09/09
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Open your eyes!
TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/08/09
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Re:Open your eyes!
jtiner | 03/08/09
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Except Bilski is about *business processes* not software
wolf_z | 03/09/09
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Try the machine or transformation test
jtiner | 03/09/09
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A file system does...
wolf_z | 03/09/09
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modify but not under the terms of the test
jtiner | 03/09/09
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Yes, but only in a way
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Most Sensible Comments Here
SuperSean | 03/09/09
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BZZZZZZZT! Wrong.
akulkis | 03/09/09
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What about the MS "Covenant Not to Sue" ?
bswiss | 03/09/09
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NO, MS does not have a FAT32 patent any more.
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Failure to defend a patent
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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What about FAT32
LiquidLearner | 03/09/09
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what about FAT32
jtiner | 03/09/09
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Option 2 is the their only real recource
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/07/09
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Completely agree
razzledazzle | 03/07/09
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Re:Option 2 is the their only real recource
jtiner | 03/07/09
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Is TOM TOM's code in 'firmware'?
V@... | 03/07/09
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That's idiotic
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Not so.
Custard_over_2x_Pie | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
jtiner | 03/07/09
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Invalidate patent and sue GPL voilators
Brent R Brian | 03/07/09
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This is what MS wants
Alan Smithie | 03/08/09
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It's not FAT32 and It's been USPTO-reviewed already
orcmid | 03/09/09
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Invalidate the patent??
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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Actually, MS invalidated the patents themselves.
akulkis | 03/09/09
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You are wrong
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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MS has chosen the wrong battle again
Alan Smithie | 03/08/09
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That's why I mentioned the EU
DanaBlankenhorn | 03/08/09
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Not true
Alan Smithie | 03/08/09
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EU does recognise patents
dgrainge | 03/09/09
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One other item.......
linux for me | 03/09/09
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Wrong.
osreinstall | 03/09/09
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I don't think he was saying
colinnwn | 03/09/09
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I didn't read it that way.
osreinstall | 03/09/09
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Signed contract=enforcement
mswift@... | 03/09/09
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Signing contracts...
ceo255 | 03/27/09
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Neither patents nor copyrights must be defended
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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Nothing to see here
Loverock Davidson | 03/09/09
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Polly Parrot
Alan Smithie | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
jtiner | 03/08/09
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Maybe...
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/08/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
Henaway | 03/08/09
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DLLS ?
dgrainge | 03/09/09
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No they weren't
CMKRNL | 03/09/09
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Yet another dork
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Ick
plovelace@... | 03/09/09
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Totally Agree
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/08/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
jtiner | 03/08/09
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Re: Maybe
jtiner | 03/08/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
reibertg@... | 03/09/09
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Dana, Jeremy's not a lawyer either...
Morgan_Reed | 03/09/09
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Just license it already and stop moaning
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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I love MICROSOFT
ragingpanda | 03/09/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
mark_pearson@... | 03/09/09
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The issue is long name extensions to FAT
SwashbucklingCowboy | 03/09/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
dgrainge | 03/09/09
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You really don't know what you're talking about
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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pot - kettle
jtiner | 03/09/09
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yes, it was upheld, pre- Bilsky
akulkis | 03/09/09
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Dumb patents!
mswift@... | 03/09/09
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MS Owns it
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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umm....
NoThomas | 03/09/09
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Probably right
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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Yep definitely preceded Windows 2000
Custard_over_2x_Pie | 03/10/09
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Sounds like the mob to me...
macman_85602@... | 03/09/09
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It's called licensing
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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FAT32 was NOT developed by Microsoft...
kokuryu | 03/09/09
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Wrong
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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Long Filename support
JeremyBoden | 03/09/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
danm50 | 03/09/09
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You should research before you talk
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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maybe all should research a little more...
jtiner | 03/09/09
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Agree - Patent Reform is Essential...but,
archangel999 | 03/09/09
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FAT32 doesn't fall under GPL!!!!!
Narg | 03/09/09
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If y'wanna play
Ole Man | 03/09/09
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Bravo
Alan Smithie | 03/09/09
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Ofcourse FAT32 isn't GPL
TedKraan | 03/11/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
ID@... | 03/09/09
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lack of understanding on your part, I think
jtiner | 03/09/09
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GPL Version 2.0 Section 7...
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
Update victim | 03/09/09
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Where are the optimists? Where is the truth?
tgilbert@... | 03/09/09
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A bit fast, here
Mitch 74 | 03/09/09
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We have a remedy.....
Colfax_Mac | 03/09/09
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This statement is incorrect
wolf_z | 03/31/09
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How about everybody sue everybody else
Crestview | 03/09/09
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Why should there be a lawsuit in the first place?
owner@... | 03/09/09
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So many words
akulkis | 03/10/09
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They should sue Jason Perlow for another lousy blog on this topic...
transposeIT | 03/09/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
akulkis | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
akulkis | 03/10/09
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Who should be sued?
hornerea | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
ceh4702 | 03/10/09
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JPG revisited???
esalkin | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
Nemo_Fossor | 03/10/09
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Sounds like a plan. --- NT ---
joe.smetona@... | 03/11/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
akulkis | 03/10/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
akulkis | 03/10/09
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Sue MS for taking out patent - lack of social conscious
wellduh | 03/10/09
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lack of social conscious ????
esalkin | 03/11/09
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FAT32 = Garbage.
joe.smetona@... | 03/11/09
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RE: Who should Software Freedom sue on FAT32?
madrucke@... | 03/11/09
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what secret agreements??
robbieharrison@... | 04/01/09
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