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Eurotopian waste of time
Office 97-XP binary doc was well understood and reverse engineered to the point where open source converters did a great job of using it. Indisputable.

If Microsoft had been approached a little intelligently, I'm sure binary DOC could have been turned into a standard with Microsoft controlling it, sort of like Sun controls Java.

Instead, the millitant open source community with their minority share of the office suite market, decided to hijack office formats from the majority player (Microsoft). Fine, people are entitled to hate MS if they want.

But it is amusing as hell that MS fought back with their own proposed standard, and now the open source community, which is all about "choice", is in the position of insisting that people shouldn't have the right to choose between two open formats.

Ironic.
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Points, Questions, Answers  bcarpent1228@... | 05/31/08
Some Comments  DannyO_0x98 | 05/31/08
Thank you - maybe MS should bend a little  bcarpent1228@... | 05/31/08
MS adopted ODF because even they can't implement OOXML  wackoae | 05/31/08
I think MS adopted ODF for two reasons, and it has nothing to do with  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
You Forget...  wolf_z | 06/01/08
MS knew they were caught, and agreed to pay Sun almost 2 billion in total  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
Nope, Sun didn't like the fact MS did better...  wolf_z | 06/02/08
Oh, and Donny? It was NOT 2 Billion... happy  wolf_z | 06/02/08
Yes, the total settlement was 1.95 billion. Read this story:  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
Try again son  eb276 | 06/02/08
Good post, I just have one argument. That would be related to if it would  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
That's a load of crap  Pliny the Elder | 06/02/08
which ones?  Mitch 74 | 06/02/08
Here comes some obscure unused feature...  storm14k | 06/02/08
Eurotopian waste of time  croberts | 05/31/08
Okie dokie  zkiwi | 05/31/08
oh come now  xuniL_z | 06/02/08
Message has been deleted.  fr0thy2 | 06/02/08
End of centralized greed  fr0thy2 | 06/03/08
MS forced everybody to reverse engineer for years, never releasing and  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
Agree: M$ Threatened by Interoperability  barence773 | 06/01/08
No, they won't . . .  JLHenry | 06/01/08
True - MS Office cheaper and easier  bcarpent1228@... | 06/01/08
Fuzzy logic.... fuzzy math......  Ole Man | 06/01/08
We do NOT communicate using office suites much anymore. That is now done  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
?  TripleII | 06/01/08
When compared to Office 2007  storm14k | 06/02/08
Now you have me laugiing. Have you ever tried to get support from MS for  DonnieBoy | 06/01/08
Hoping for the sharepoint angle.  TripleII | 06/01/08
I mean anywhere as in "shelved yet still exists" (NT)  TripleII | 06/01/08
MS support  balaknair | 06/03/08
No, it's much more than that at stake.  xuniL_z | 06/02/08
"Predatory pricing"...? Hello, Daniel Wallace!  Zogg | 06/02/08
Linux zealots agreeing among themselves. Pathetic..  transposeIT | 06/01/08
"Linux zealots"????  Zogg | 06/02/08
Doesn't take much...  storm14k | 06/02/08
Linux zealots?  mrdt | 06/02/08
Talk about beating a dead horse.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/08
MS might like it if everybody just laid down and there was no controversy,  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
What part of "Done Deal" is escaping you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/08
What part of "unprecedented" is escaping you? In case you have not read:  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
So what's your point?  markbn | 06/02/08
Actually, there are a whole lot more using ODF right now than OOXML.  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
You misunderstand, as usual  markbn | 06/02/08
Well, one thing is for sure. MS would rather that everybody just shut up  DonnieBoy | 06/03/08
Keep dreaming  markbn | 06/03/08
I guess you, Balmer, and Gates are dreaming, that the OOXML controversy  DonnieBoy | 06/03/08
On the contrary  markbn | 06/03/08
Contrary to your contrariness  Ole Man | 06/03/08
The Old Troll strikes back  markbn | 06/04/08
I'd say that you should join Donnie  Ole Man | 06/06/08
It only matters...  John L. Ries | 06/02/08
The EU Coming in to Kick Your Beloved Bush Nazi MicroShaft's Ass  drprodny | 06/02/08
You might not get beaten so badly  Ole Man | 06/02/08
I am not beaten by anyone  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/08
Yeah, RIGHT, Ax!  drprodny | 06/02/08
Perhaps you prefer the term whipped?  B.O.F.H. | 06/02/08
it's just a "standard"  dragon@... | 06/02/08
Exactlly!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/08
The list of countries appealing has grown to 5 in case you did not notice.  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
Irrelevant  markbn | 06/03/08
Irrelevant, OOXML finally becoming a standard does NOT take away the  DonnieBoy | 06/03/08
For all *practical* purposes  markbn | 06/03/08
as long as oXML continue to be an ISO standard  Ole Man | 06/06/08
No, it is not just any standard. This is a duplicate and very controversial  DonnieBoy | 06/02/08
That does not change the fact  markbn | 06/03/08
And, that does not change the fact that OOXML is very controversial, OR  DonnieBoy | 06/03/08
Does not matter  markbn | 06/03/08
With the all the Linux talk they have a future Billionare in mind with GXL.  rtirman37@... | 06/02/08
RE: What might come of the OOXML revolt?  gordon@... | 06/03/08
What might come of the OOXML revolt?  Ole Man | 06/03/08
A question about the veiwer for Firefox  neutro511@... | 12/08/08

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