But of course he does
GuidingLight | 04/01/08
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*CLEARLY*
Tinkie | 04/02/08
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His philanthrophy is a very good thing
GuidingLight | 04/02/08
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Please tell me...
Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
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Well, that is easy
John Zern | 04/02/08
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Left out?
Diazamet | 04/03/08
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"classify Microsoft Office as "non-open" document standard"
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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Apples and oranges. Philanthropy good code
jlafitte | 04/03/08
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Non-GM food a problem?
fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
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All very good points he is making. A sad day, but, not sure we have heard
DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
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There is enough room at the table for everyone.
osreinstall | 04/01/08
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Not about OSS v Microsoft
SwashbucklingCowboy | 04/01/08
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Standards don't mean anything.
osreinstall | 04/01/08
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But, funny that 90% of the people use MS Office, but, ODF sailed through
DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
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After 100s of millions, dirty tricks and lobbying, ...
ShadeTree | 04/02/08
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Gotta play the game
nucrash | 04/02/08
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Aside from the usual
Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/02/08
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Er, weren't you watching...
A.Sinic | 04/02/08
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You mean those votes were MS's competition.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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all the little guys collaborate to try to make the standard non-proprietary
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Sounds like a R&D cartel.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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sure live in your fantasy
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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As opposed to your fantasy.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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RE: MS' plan
jns_45K@... | 04/16/08
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The table is getting smaller
cpuobsessed | 04/01/08
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Only because folks don't try to compete.
osreinstall | 04/01/08
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a serious question...
Monkey_MCSE | 04/01/08
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The standard is to hamstring MS.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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I think that you couldn't be more wrong.
daengbo | 04/02/08
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No, I think you are.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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Very well defined and articulated!
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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Yeah sure old man
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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osreinstall I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Stevey, I know exactly what is going down.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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since there is a free Office2007 to ODF output and input filter
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Why should they.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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If you don't like it DON'T BUY IT.
jlafitte | 04/03/08
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Big brother? Nope simple corruption
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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You do not have to have multiple standards for everybody to fit at the
DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
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You want everyone to eat brocolli.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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Good luck getting your M3.45756849 screw for your microsoft car
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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No Problem. Consult a parte manual.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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m5 bolt timing chain tensioner in Porsche 911
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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They use standard bolts on all cars.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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How so?
jlafitte | 04/03/08
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"Enough room for everyone...", said the cannibal.
Zogg | 04/02/08
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You need table manners and pass the salt.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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so ODF isn't a standard in MA. Er actually it is.
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Good thing it isn't the only choice.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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sure formats with proprietary lockin give choice
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Still babbling about bolts.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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No offense, but you are pretty ignorant
Stuka | 04/02/08
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So are you buddy.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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like TCP/IP hurt the internet huh?
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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IE didn't hurt the internet either.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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the judge's Findings of Fact said microsoft's actions had slowed innovation
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Just because a judge said so...
jamesrayg | 04/03/08
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That judge was dismissed for bias.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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So IE doesn't break normal standard pages then?
zkiwi | 04/03/08
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Not any I came accross.
osreinstall | 04/03/08
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IE is great for my business
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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I don't dine with crooks
peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08
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You must have when you went to pot luck.
osreinstall | 04/02/08
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exactly
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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Not if its Microsofts Table
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
zkiwi | 04/01/08
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I would refuse
roaming | 04/01/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
applebypd | 04/02/08
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well if you've seen MSDN...
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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I agree with Mark 100%
LittleGuy | 04/02/08
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Strange, I'm exactly the opposite...
Guy Smiley | 04/02/08
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Well, at least we agree that ISO relevance is gone. NT
LittleGuy | 04/02/08
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Why?
zkiwi | 04/02/08
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Because...
Guy Smiley | 04/03/08
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There's a diference...
zkiwi | 04/03/08
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Standards are for simplified interaction and competition
fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
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well this just shows your ignorance
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Yeah, fancy ratifying a standard that isn't owned by Microsoft
fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
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And it begins
BFD | 04/02/08
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I wouldn't call it whining..
Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
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I guess you think the single vendor bidding process for Blackwater was good
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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ISO have been compromised
Linux Geek | 04/02/08
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Open Source "lobbying" = "whining"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
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The difference here..
Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
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Sorry Monkey
A.Sinic | 04/02/08
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fact still remains
Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
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Not for Desktop Publishing
daengbo | 04/02/08
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Your ranting simply doesn't matter.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
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You keep calling it choice...
Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
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Why do you whine so much?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
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100 million users say you're wrong.
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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You mean PDF don't you?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
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If "lobbying" = "whining"...
Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
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Users have just lost "choice"
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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He gets so many things wrong
easson | 04/02/08
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still waiting for the proof..
Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
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ALL DOCUMENTED IN DETAIL
Ole Man | 04/02/08
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Exactly, this standard is like the microsoft titanic, and holes are holes
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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So...
zkiwi | 04/02/08
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Not only wrong, but only tells one side of it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
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Damn those dirty FLOSS bastards!1!
Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
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we all know No_facts can't provide proof
Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
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This is the same ODF that microsoft sat and still sits on the committee for
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Unaddressed is functionally equivalent to unanswered
daengbo | 04/02/08
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Unaddressed! Riiiiiiiight.........
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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no, they weren't answered. They were ignored
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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This from a guy whose company is eatign the POSIX dogfood
hornerea | 04/02/08
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ah just compete
Boot_Agnostic | 04/02/08
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AMEN! Give usrs a CHOICE
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
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exactly why OOXML will never be used outside msoffice
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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No one? Yo mean like IBM, Sun and Google
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
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Who you gonna call?
tonymcs@... | 04/02/08
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Who you gonna call? IBM!!!
Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
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IBM? Oh yeah, they did say they were going to use
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
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Lotus Notes and Lotus Symphony...
Sysadm1n | 04/04/08
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A fine declaration
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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Well at least one thing came about from it all..
Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
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100 million users for Openoffice, 20% of the market
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Well Said Mark Shuttleworth!
peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08
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My sentiments, exactly!
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
sudheer.s@... | 04/03/08
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Status Quo
DarthRidiculous | 04/03/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
troutmaskreplica | 04/03/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
malevolentjelly | 04/03/08
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and ignore completely the corruption
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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Shouldn't Microsoft be the ones developing plugins?
peter_erskine@... | 04/03/08
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Novell is going to implement this standard
Ole Man | 04/03/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
jlafitte | 04/03/08
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you think corruption is humane?
stevey_d | 04/03/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
anonymuos | 04/03/08
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When you care enough
Ole Man | 04/06/08
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Learn your History
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
bsaunders43 | 04/25/08
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The quick fix
starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
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RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win
ujhrdngjk | 08/17/09
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