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But of course he does  GuidingLight | 04/01/08
*CLEARLY*  Tinkie | 04/02/08
His philanthrophy is a very good thing  GuidingLight | 04/02/08
Please tell me...  Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
Well, that is easy  John Zern | 04/02/08
Left out?  Diazamet | 04/03/08
"classify Microsoft Office as "non-open" document standard"  Ole Man | 04/03/08
Apples and oranges. Philanthropy good code  jlafitte | 04/03/08
Non-GM food a problem?  fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
All very good points he is making. A sad day, but, not sure we have heard  DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
There is enough room at the table for everyone.  osreinstall | 04/01/08
Not about OSS v Microsoft  SwashbucklingCowboy | 04/01/08
Standards don't mean anything.  osreinstall | 04/01/08
But, funny that 90% of the people use MS Office, but, ODF sailed through  DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
After 100s of millions, dirty tricks and lobbying, ...  ShadeTree | 04/02/08
Gotta play the game  nucrash | 04/02/08
Aside from the usual  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/02/08
Er, weren't you watching...  A.Sinic | 04/02/08
You mean those votes were MS's competition.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
all the little guys collaborate to try to make the standard non-proprietary  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Sounds like a R&D cartel.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
sure live in your fantasy  stevey_d | 04/03/08
As opposed to your fantasy.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
RE: MS' plan  jns_45K@... | 04/16/08
The table is getting smaller  cpuobsessed | 04/01/08
Only because folks don't try to compete.  osreinstall | 04/01/08
a serious question...  Monkey_MCSE | 04/01/08
The standard is to hamstring MS.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
I think that you couldn't be more wrong.  daengbo | 04/02/08
No, I think you are.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
Very well defined and articulated!  Ole Man | 04/03/08
Yeah sure old man  osreinstall | 04/03/08
osreinstall I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Stevey, I know exactly what is going down.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
since there is a free Office2007 to ODF output and input filter  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Why should they.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
If you don't like it DON'T BUY IT.  jlafitte | 04/03/08
Big brother? Nope simple corruption  stevey_d | 04/03/08
You do not have to have multiple standards for everybody to fit at the  DonnieBoy | 04/01/08
You want everyone to eat brocolli.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
Good luck getting your M3.45756849 screw for your microsoft car  stevey_d | 04/03/08
No Problem. Consult a parte manual.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
m5 bolt timing chain tensioner in Porsche 911  stevey_d | 04/03/08
They use standard bolts on all cars.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
How so?  jlafitte | 04/03/08
"Enough room for everyone...", said the cannibal.  Zogg | 04/02/08
You need table manners and pass the salt.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
so ODF isn't a standard in MA. Er actually it is.  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Good thing it isn't the only choice.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
sure formats with proprietary lockin give choice  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Still babbling about bolts.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
No offense, but you are pretty ignorant  Stuka | 04/02/08
So are you buddy.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
like TCP/IP hurt the internet huh?  stevey_d | 04/03/08
IE didn't hurt the internet either.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
the judge's Findings of Fact said microsoft's actions had slowed innovation  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Just because a judge said so...  jamesrayg | 04/03/08
That judge was dismissed for bias.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
So IE doesn't break normal standard pages then?  zkiwi | 04/03/08
Not any I came accross.  osreinstall | 04/03/08
IE is great for my business  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
I don't dine with crooks  peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08
You must have when you went to pot luck.  osreinstall | 04/02/08
exactly  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
Not if its Microsofts Table  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  zkiwi | 04/01/08
I would refuse  roaming | 04/01/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  applebypd | 04/02/08
well if you've seen MSDN...  stevey_d | 04/03/08
I agree with Mark 100%  LittleGuy | 04/02/08
Strange, I'm exactly the opposite...  Guy Smiley | 04/02/08
Well, at least we agree that ISO relevance is gone. NT  LittleGuy | 04/02/08
Why?  zkiwi | 04/02/08
Because...  Guy Smiley | 04/03/08
There's a diference...  zkiwi | 04/03/08
Standards are for simplified interaction and competition  fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
well this just shows your ignorance  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Yeah, fancy ratifying a standard that isn't owned by Microsoft  fr0thy2 | 04/03/08
And it begins  BFD | 04/02/08
I wouldn't call it whining..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
I guess you think the single vendor bidding process for Blackwater was good  stevey_d | 04/03/08
ISO have been compromised  Linux Geek | 04/02/08
Open Source "lobbying" = "whining"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
The difference here..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
Sorry Monkey  A.Sinic | 04/02/08
fact still remains  Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
Not for Desktop Publishing  daengbo | 04/02/08
Your ranting simply doesn't matter.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
You keep calling it choice...  Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
Why do you whine so much?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
100 million users say you're wrong.  stevey_d | 04/03/08
You mean PDF don't you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
If "lobbying" = "whining"...  Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
Users have just lost "choice"  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
He gets so many things wrong  easson | 04/02/08
still waiting for the proof..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/02/08
ALL DOCUMENTED IN DETAIL  Ole Man | 04/02/08
Exactly, this standard is like the microsoft titanic, and holes are holes  stevey_d | 04/03/08
So...  zkiwi | 04/02/08
Not only wrong, but only tells one side of it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
Damn those dirty FLOSS bastards!1!  Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
we all know No_facts can't provide proof  Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
This is the same ODF that microsoft sat and still sits on the committee for  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Unaddressed is functionally equivalent to unanswered  daengbo | 04/02/08
Unaddressed! Riiiiiiiight.........  Ole Man | 04/03/08
no, they weren't answered. They were ignored  stevey_d | 04/03/08
This from a guy whose company is eatign the POSIX dogfood  hornerea | 04/02/08
ah just compete  Boot_Agnostic | 04/02/08
AMEN! Give usrs a CHOICE  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/02/08
exactly why OOXML will never be used outside msoffice  stevey_d | 04/03/08
No one? Yo mean like IBM, Sun and Google  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
Who you gonna call?  tonymcs@... | 04/02/08
Who you gonna call? IBM!!!  Sysadm1n | 04/02/08
IBM? Oh yeah, they did say they were going to use  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/03/08
Lotus Notes and Lotus Symphony...  Sysadm1n | 04/04/08
A fine declaration  Ole Man | 04/03/08
Well at least one thing came about from it all..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/03/08
100 million users for Openoffice, 20% of the market  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Well Said Mark Shuttleworth!  peter_erskine@... | 04/02/08
My sentiments, exactly!  Ole Man | 04/03/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  sudheer.s@... | 04/03/08
Status Quo  DarthRidiculous | 04/03/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  troutmaskreplica | 04/03/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  malevolentjelly | 04/03/08
and ignore completely the corruption  stevey_d | 04/03/08
Shouldn't Microsoft be the ones developing plugins?  peter_erskine@... | 04/03/08
Novell is going to implement this standard  Ole Man | 04/03/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  jlafitte | 04/03/08
you think corruption is humane?  stevey_d | 04/03/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  anonymuos | 04/03/08
When you care enough  Ole Man | 04/06/08
Learn your History  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  bsaunders43 | 04/25/08
The quick fix  starcannon99022@... | 04/30/08
RE: Ubuntu's Shuttleworth blames ISO for OOXML's win  ujhrdngjk | 08/17/09

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