Wow
sgtgary@... | 03/24/08
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Yes it certainly does
georgeou | 03/24/08
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In My Honest Opinion
nucrash | 03/24/08
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George made no such illustration...
robb@... | 03/24/08
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You're wrong on several points
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Who writes your articles?
robb@... | 03/24/08
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Couple things
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Wow, you are confused.
robb@... | 03/24/08
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Beats you pretty much sums it up
georgeou | 03/24/08
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George made no such illustration...
robb@... | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
pwtenny@... | 03/24/08
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Why not QoS? Because it solves the wrong problem.
robb@... | 03/24/08
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This isn't packet prioritization, it's lower level than that
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
Vesicant | 03/24/08
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Typo - Lyon's share?!?!?
t_mohajir | 03/24/08
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This can be done at the router
RestonTechAlec | 03/24/08
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Cheers!!
robb@... | 03/24/08
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This is a much more complete way to solve the problem
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Deep not the right word, Elegant maybe
rjcarlson49 | 03/24/08
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It absolutely is a cheat and it's unfair
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Unfair yes, cheating no
rjcarlson49 | 03/24/08
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Benefitting unfairly at the expense of others is cheating
georgeou | 03/24/08
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CHEAT
claymann39@... | 03/25/08
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Comcast does NOT advertise unlimited bandwidth
georgeou | 03/25/08
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The TCP protocols DO need to be fixed...
RestonTechAlec | 03/24/08
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Absolutely no argument from me, I'm on your side.
georgeou | 03/24/08
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No argument inferred
RestonTechAlec | 03/24/08
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Fairness
kalensglitch | 03/24/08
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TCP isnt the only problem
bpedman | 03/24/08
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P2P primarily uses TCP, UDP applications are self constraining
georgeou | 03/24/08
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P2P primarily uses TCP, UDP applications are self constraining
BobBriscoe | 03/26/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
fairnotfair | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
kingzog | 03/24/08
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George's Villany of P2P: Tying the Damsel to the RR Track
robb@... | 03/24/08
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PSS: Your addendum to Briscoe's draft sounds worthy...
robb@... | 03/24/08
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"Appears" working correctly does not contradict it's broken
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
shawnspam | 03/24/08
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Nothing "slippery" about giving everyone a fair share of bandwitdh
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
fairnotfair | 03/24/08
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Fixing the unfairness of ISP congestion control
rjplummer | 03/25/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
fgoldstein | 03/24/08
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Thanks for your response, here's mine
georgeou | 03/24/08
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I agree (with your last sentence)
robb@... | 03/24/08
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Ah, your true motivations came out sooner or later
georgeou | 03/24/08
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My rather public hidden agenda: The Net should Work
robb@... | 03/24/08
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You're good at twisting quotations and words
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Might not use the Internet, but Comcast movies use bandwidth
curtian4 | 03/25/08
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You're in denial of basic economics and reality
georgeou | 03/25/08
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Reality Check
NetArch. | 03/26/08
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Large number averages
fgoldstein | 03/24/08
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Works as designed...
TtfnJohn | 03/24/08
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You completely misquoted me
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Also, I'm saying the user has a choice to use a volume cap
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Yes, I do
TtfnJohn | 03/24/08
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Engineering vs User vs Sales Policy
t.burninator@... | 03/24/08
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The reality is that ALL networks are over sold and under provisioned
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Exageration doesn't help
r_widell | 03/26/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
Ginevra | 03/24/08
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price ~ cost ?
delorimier | 03/24/08
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You missed the whole point
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Sounds like the U.S. tax system.
RichardBronosky | 03/24/08
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Protocol shaping is NOT net neutrality
dave@... | 03/24/08
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You?re not even consistent with your peers
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Hardest steps are the easiest?
quinthar | 03/24/08
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I too had my reservations about updating the TCP stack
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
fridder | 03/24/08
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Well, there are like a dozen implementations of AIMD
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
rjcarlson49 | 03/24/08
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This goes deeper than QoS
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Politically best? maybe so
rjcarlson49 | 03/24/08
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I don't disagree, but you're preaching to the choir
georgeou | 03/24/08
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Then don't say Net Neutrality is Bad
NetArch. | 03/26/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
johnsokol | 03/24/08
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Again, Broadband is not CIR
georgeou | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
wein0 | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
dad4x | 03/24/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
BrettGlass | 03/24/08
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What isn't mentioned
commenter | 03/24/08
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Excellent: but beware latent demand.
johnfenjackson@... | 03/25/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
Hemlock Stones | 03/25/08
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RE: Fixing TCP congestion: The 600 pound gorilla
jdubow@... | 03/25/08
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RE: Fixing TCP congestion: The 600 pound gorilla
BobBriscoe | 03/26/08
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Identifying a computer.
Anton Philidor | 03/25/08
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No, it's easy to count how much data each person sends per unit time
georgeou | 03/25/08
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Now it's easy to count...
Anton Philidor | 03/26/08
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Look at the Peer's IPN
RARPSL | 03/25/08
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This article completely missed the real problem
Notfillingthisin | 03/25/08
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No network allows for full bursting constantly
georgeou | 03/25/08
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ISP routers are not the boundary of your traffic
xodusprime | 03/27/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
WaltFrench@... | 03/25/08
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Your economic model is wrong because you're confusing objectives here
georgeou | 03/25/08
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Discount by Connection Time
RARPSL | 03/25/08
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Oversubscription
jmounteer@... | 03/25/08
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Net Neutrality debate isn't solely a misunderstanding
BobBriscoe | 03/27/08
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Bob, sorry I worded it wrong
georgeou | 03/27/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
bk1022 | 03/28/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
bk1022 | 03/28/08
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This is a QoS Problem
anywhere.i.roam | 03/30/08
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You should try Comcast
John Musbach | 04/01/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
jtopping | 04/08/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
anywhere.i.roam | 04/10/08
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Implementing a new congestion control in Linux
runeks | 04/11/08
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RE: Fixing the unfairness of TCP congestion control
ZEEK0 | 04/15/08
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