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George Ou is pointing the Image quality and sound quality of Real HD technology on Web that will be use on iTV and iPod, iPhone and now the Mac Book Air and most of similar competitor devices.

Screen resolution is something else if you understand right in PC?s and TV?s. Quality is something else even on a 2.5 LCD screen.

What George is doing is lowering the number of so call "Sheep" that are just missing that type of information to stop the "Abusive" and "Dishonest" "Mercantile" Habits that are unfortunately growing in expansion in our actual time.

Print this article and send it to your relative or Email it to your entire friend that you care.

In my concern this is more than technically true.

Best Regard George
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What IS HD?  Otwoh | 01/18/08
Technically true but...  cornpie | 01/18/08
they do?  LDCMobile | 01/18/08
Wrong, broadcast services are usually 1080i or 720p  georgeou | 01/18/08
Not so  frank_s | 01/18/08
Huh?  Bigshott | 02/19/08
Most people don't see it.  hulse_kevin | 01/18/08
Most viewers are still watching ...  mwagner@... | 01/18/08
You're wrong about that 17" computer monitor  georgeou | 01/18/08
Where I disagree with this article  threedaysdwn | 01/19/08
The industry would like you to believe there is a 2 to 1 advantage  georgeou | 01/19/08
I don't care what codec you use, you can't get around the low bit-rate limi  georgeou | 01/18/08
+1  toadlife | 01/18/08
George is 100% right  wackoae | 01/19/08
Your nuts  IUseComputers | 01/28/08
It's well known that the PSNR is at best 1.5x better for H.264  georgeou | 02/04/08
4 mbps H.264 may be better  wingc@... | 02/05/08
Lack of Understanding or Understanding Lack ?  pobstar1@... | 01/18/08
Thanks, well said  georgeou | 01/18/08
Fallowing You on that for sure.  pobstar1@... | 01/18/08
AI?  richvball44 | 01/19/08
I'm proud of my 50" Pansonic plasma  Knorthern Knight | 01/18/08
HD uses  Schnazzer | 01/18/08
Why Pay Comcast  notsofast | 01/18/08
What is "peak power"?  kd5auq | 01/18/08
Marketing, Never Trust Marketing  codeguy007 | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  bdick@... | 01/18/08
ATSC vs. DVB-t  NetArch. | 01/18/08
Sorry, will correct it  georgeou | 01/18/08
Maybe they just mean 16x9  Michael Kelly | 01/18/08
No, they can't tell that either because these new TVs stretch the signal  georgeou | 01/18/08
Good point (nt)  Michael Kelly | 01/18/08
That's True  carrilion | 01/21/08
Not exactly  FirstNLastN | 01/18/08
It's not a 2 to 1 advantage  georgeou | 01/18/08
(nt)Hope you didn't delete the mpeg2 originals  toadlife | 01/18/08
You're talking recompression  CobraA1 | 01/19/08
... continued  FirstNLastN | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
Math error  VersatileSimplicity | 01/18/08
Bits or Bytes, check your math  georgeou | 01/18/08
I don't know about your assumptions  public@... | 01/20/08
720p should be higher bit-rate than DVD to be acceptable  georgeou | 01/18/08
Wrong  crashuk@... | 01/19/08
Takes slightly more storage, but not twice as much  georgeou | 01/19/08
Now who actually offers 1080p?  LDCMobile | 01/18/08
1080p = 1080i (sometimes)  Cyraxote | 01/18/08
no, it depends on the signal  ramarc | 01/18/08
1080i = 540  whcressall@... | 01/18/08
That is incorrect  threedaysdwn | 01/19/08
Phenomena is plural; don't watch sports.  ýlysdexia | 01/28/08
There's some WMV9 material in 1080p  bulk@... | 01/18/08
Blu-ray is 40 mbps 1080p, ATSC HD broadcast is 19 mbps 1080i  georgeou | 01/18/08
What about 720p ATSC?  Michael Kelly | 01/18/08
The total signal is the same 19.2 megabits  Knorthern Knight | 01/18/08
Actually, 720p allows for lower compression ratios  georgeou | 01/18/08
Real HDTV  Knorthern Knight | 01/18/08
Setting the bar too low  Knorthern Knight | 01/18/08
Thanks for the link!  georgeou | 01/18/08
You're right on the money, George  SteveMak | 01/18/08
A few questions  itpro_z | 01/18/08
Probably not compression  RocketEater | 01/18/08
I really don't understand...  MalumRegnat\ | 01/18/08
HD broadcasts are different from downloads or streaming on demand  georgeou | 01/18/08
Point is that you won't be happy with 4 mbps 720p  georgeou | 01/18/08
Dumb Question: What about the trailers on apple.com?  roystonlodge | 01/18/08
Sometimes they offer really short clips that are 8 mbps  georgeou | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  mikepaul | 01/18/08
Someone missed the point completely  georgeou | 01/18/08
Hmmm  Skullet | 01/18/08
Verizon offers 15 mbps HD video streaming on demand  georgeou | 01/18/08
I think your missing the point George.  Skullet | 01/18/08
This is not spliting hairs, I'm telling you bit-rate is a limiting factor  georgeou | 01/18/08
Thanks for muddying the waters a little more  Vurbal@... | 01/18/08
3 to 1 advantage is BS  georgeou | 01/18/08
And the resolution issue?  Vurbal@... | 01/18/08
Over compressed high resolution looks like low resolution  georgeou | 01/18/08
That's not what you wrote  Vurbal@... | 01/18/08
Actually, overcompressed HD does look a lot like SD upconverted  georgeou | 01/19/08
George is fairly wrong, because...  CowLauncher | 01/18/08
High Resolution with low bit-rate equals low fidelity  georgeou | 01/18/08
That's a misconception George...  CowLauncher | 01/18/08
You're fooling yourself if you think you can get good HD at low bit-rates  georgeou | 01/18/08
Have watched any George?  CowLauncher | 01/18/08
I've watched quite a bit, and it's fake HD  georgeou | 01/18/08
Problem is . . .  CobraA1 | 01/19/08
Here you go:  CobraA1 | 01/19/08
You're right, and you can see the difference on a 19" LCD  georgeou | 01/19/08
I know the difference between bits and bytes...  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
720p at half the bit-rate is lower fidelity than 480i  georgeou | 01/18/08
bit rate not only key factor though...  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
It's not the only factor, but it's a limiting factor  georgeou | 01/18/08
Ya'll are a little Cynical: What this really means is...  stormculture | 01/18/08
HD "ought" to be better than DVD  georgeou | 01/18/08
Eh, you're both right.  JTrack3d | 01/18/08
The 4 minute claim is nonsense to begin with.  georgeou | 01/18/08
I agree with you!  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
8mbps 720p VC-1 or MPEG4-AVC/H.264 is decent.  georgeou | 01/18/08
1.5mbits/sec  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
The ABC stuff is 1.5 mbps or lower 720p video  georgeou | 01/18/08
What a good compressionist can do with 2Mbit/sec  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
Animations don't count as video  georgeou | 01/18/08
Yup, Elephant's Dream isn't Citizen Kane  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
It's a lot worse than my DVDs  georgeou | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  MC_z | 01/18/08
Pundits vs. Firsthand Experience  hulse_kevin | 01/18/08
My experience with 360 720p movies was good  dhavleak@... | 01/18/08
7GB per movie means high bitrate  aitor_ibarra | 01/18/08
I rounded off to 8  georgeou | 01/18/08
I updated for XBOX360  georgeou | 01/18/08
good stuff..  dhavleak@... | 01/18/08
Updated note about XBOX360 - nt  georgeou | 01/18/08
The Internet is DC node stuff  BALTHOR | 01/18/08
Anen  vicw926a4@... | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  christopher.j@... | 01/18/08
You're looking for multicasting  Knorthern Knight | 01/18/08
Costs Of LIVE8 Scenario?  christopher.j@... | 01/19/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  rodfrank@... | 01/18/08
Bit-rate is a HUGE factor  georgeou | 01/18/08
Yes Sheep  codeguy007 | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  domlanic@... | 01/18/08
Same marketing nonsense, Flash still uses video compression technology  georgeou | 01/18/08
HD LIE  domlanic@... | 01/18/08
Doesn't even take regulation, just a few stiff fines here and there will do  georgeou | 01/18/08
George is right!  ballmerclone2@... | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  bcroner | 01/18/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  nori.anand@... | 01/18/08
Beware of George Ou and don't believe his articles!  Grayson Peddie | 01/18/08
TechExec2?  thetruthhurts | 01/19/08
Your point isn't entirely off, but your math sure is.  photo@... | 01/19/08
WRONG, you're assuming the extra bit-rate is wasted on those repeat frame  georgeou | 01/19/08
Sigh...  threedaysdwn | 01/19/08
Upscaling by itself isn't a good thing, but starting with double bit-rate  georgeou | 01/19/08
The solution  skris88@... | 01/19/08
BT is similar to multicasting in the sense that it takes load off server  georgeou | 01/20/08
But I agree with you that the word HD shouldn't be abused  georgeou | 01/20/08
******** Title  oxytotem@... | 01/20/08
Xbox 360 hd downloads  d0x360@... | 01/20/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  duanedeen@... | 01/20/08
I feel sorry for you George  mankydonut@... | 01/20/08
Would be nice to have an HD basic, standard, full label  georgeou | 01/20/08
Informative, nothing else needs to be said. (NT)  ju1ce | 01/20/08
DVDs are undercompressed in the first place  Knocks | 01/20/08
Lower bit-rates are fine for people who steal the content  georgeou | 01/20/08
The algorithms used are very clever...  Mikael_z | 01/23/08
Or you can just rent your HD Netflix  georgeou | 01/23/08
Depends on where you draw the line  Mikael_z | 01/24/08
Wireless Communications, Networking and Mobile Computing  wxm0907@... | 01/20/08
Symposium on Information System & Management  wxm0907@... | 01/20/08
back to DVD  _JimB_ | 01/23/08
It is HD this article is BS  puggsly | 02/19/08
RE: Don't believe the low bit-rate 'HD' lie  skellener@... | 02/19/08
Verizon offers full HD Video on Demand over their FiOS data  georgeou | 04/07/08

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