But bot nets can use white listed computers
shis-ka-bob | 10/26/07
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Then you lose your bond and get kicked off the list.
georgeou | 10/26/07
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Permanently off the list?!
Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
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No, more money to get back on the list
georgeou | 10/26/07
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The solution is really much simpler than that...
Information_z | 11/04/07
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trustworthy is relative
shis-ka-bob | 10/26/07
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Good point, that is the challenge that needs to be addressed.
georgeou | 10/26/07
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Expensive solution...
Information_z | 11/04/07
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addressbook virus; was Re: you lose your bond and get kicked off
mandehu@... | 10/29/07
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How about smarter ISPs?
bidemytime | 10/26/07
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re: smarter ISPs
ace101pub@... | 10/26/07
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The cost for 3 probably out ways the cost of 1
mrOSX | 10/26/07
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out what?
lysdexia | 11/01/07
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Perhaps
epcraig | 10/26/07
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Funny you say (smart) ISP's
Suicida| | 10/26/07
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But they do...
peter@... | 10/29/07
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its so easy when youre not knee deep
linuxoverwindows | 10/29/07
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Disallow Port 25
grunter_z | 10/30/07
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target the companies EMPLOYING the spammers, NOT THE SPAMMERS themselves
ace101pub@... | 10/26/07
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Two things
bidemytime | 10/26/07
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Well, there have been cases of companies being framed
georgeou | 10/26/07
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Vigilante justice...
Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
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I agree
dragosani | 10/26/07
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not necessarily...
craig-wilson@... | 10/29/07
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Target yes, but legally
fnash | 10/28/07
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Re: target legally
mandehu@... | 10/29/07
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That's why
fnash | 10/30/07
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Unsolicited Email should be a crime
Bobajot | 11/03/07
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Not again.
bjbrock | 10/26/07
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Meanwhile what do retail folks do when ISPs don't care?
osreinstall | 10/26/07
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The sender's domain...
bjbrock | 10/26/07
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Your solution is great for a server
osreinstall | 10/26/07
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I see.
bjbrock | 10/26/07
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I kinda figured that.
osreinstall | 10/26/07
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Message from the average user
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 10/28/07
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Nevermind.
osreinstall | 10/28/07
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The average user
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 10/29/07
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The average user has a tough time.
osreinstall | 10/29/07
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set up; than
lysdexia | 11/01/07
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I would if I had some money
osreinstall | 11/01/07
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Fine. Then how about...
D. T. Schmitz | 10/26/07
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Re: dig
mandehu@... | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
mattwolc | 10/26/07
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Gates/Microsoft sued a lot of spammers
georgeou | 10/26/07
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Russian Spammer Murder Story Deemed A Hoax
lysdexia | 11/01/07
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BUT BILL GATES PROMISED!!!
itanalyst | 10/26/07
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Google and Microsoft
andycher | 10/26/07
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There are effective anti-spam solutions in place
georgeou | 10/26/07
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Not my case
johnson12 | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
wkulecz | 10/26/07
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And then?
Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
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So what?
doug@... | 10/26/07
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New standard to solve spam?
Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
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Licenses don't work...
nottheusual1 | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
techrepublic@... | 10/26/07
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The solution to the problem is right where you stated...
TripleII | 10/26/07
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All I ask...
Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
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You keep trying to poke holes
TripleII | 10/26/07
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The real purpose of SPF
fazalmajid | 10/26/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
mjd420nova | 10/26/07
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I agree 100% that no stopping spam and Whitelisting
dragosani | 10/26/07
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OpenPGP and GNU Privacy Guard
D. T. Schmitz | 10/26/07
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The Anatomy of an OpenPGP email
D. T. Schmitz | 10/26/07
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Why are you hanging one of your own out to dry in a ZDNET Blog?
Slamshifter | 10/26/07
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I just hung myself too, this is about dialog.
georgeou | 10/26/07
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New way to get hits:
nizuse | 10/26/07
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I can assure you that nothing is staged here
georgeou | 10/26/07
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George, you are either with us or against us.
osreinstall | 10/26/07
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"ended"
nizuse | 10/28/07
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It can be ended, but all must comply
pcguy777 | 10/26/07
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re
pcguy777 | 10/26/07
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That's the attitude that we must stop
georgeou | 10/26/07
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I have disovered the cure for all spam.. please read my previous post
pcguy777 | 10/26/07
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Re: bots paying
Rick_R | 10/26/07
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ok
pcguy777 | 10/26/07
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Read the second point
georgeou | 10/26/07
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RE: Ridiculous
shanedr | 10/26/07
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Spam is already illegal
georgeou | 10/26/07
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I accept all emails....
vinyl1 | 10/26/07
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Ending Spam is Easy
Drac144 | 10/26/07
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Not so easy
lonniemcclure | 10/26/07
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Here's news for you, spam is already illegal
georgeou | 10/26/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
The Rifleman | 10/26/07
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lose its
lysdexia | 11/01/07
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We can do a MUCH better job.
CobraA1 | 10/26/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
tracy anne | 10/26/07
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Same for security and piracy ...
johnfenjackson@... | 10/27/07
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That's how everything is
georgeou | 10/27/07
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Status Quo and another Inconvenient Truth
D. T. Schmitz | 10/27/07
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Re: That's how everything is
The Rifleman | 10/27/07
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Time for a new paradigm
PAIGED@... | 10/27/07
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They'll spam the header then . . .
CobraA1 | 10/28/07
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use authentication, like in IM ... bayesian
cfortune | 10/27/07
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Good Catch
Drac144 | 10/28/07
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To end spam, just...
mikecepek | 10/28/07
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... kick the reader in the booty?
nottheusual1 | 10/29/07
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What? No engineering solution!
tonymcs@... | 10/28/07
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Third World dictators do not have the right to send SPAM
Absolutely | 10/28/07
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Bot nets to cut
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 10/28/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
thungurknifur | 10/29/07
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Like I said, I was wrong, Bill Gates was wrong, Berlind is now wrong
georgeou | 10/29/07
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ISP's CAN help this issue.
Bozzer | 10/29/07
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you probably dont realize...
linuxoverwindows | 10/29/07
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Finally
jedwards123 | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
Neuromage | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
CodeBubba | 10/29/07
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How spam can be stopped!
kps_46635@... | 10/29/07
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How to stop spam emails
kps_46635@... | 10/29/07
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Evolving
lektaric@... | 10/29/07
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Enforce reply rating
bart.viaene@... | 10/29/07
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Free e-mail sites
davedufour | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
webmasterjay2007@... | 10/29/07
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Can't we all just get along?
Narg | 10/29/07
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Postage charges haven't stopped junk mail...
chas_2 | 10/29/07
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postage charges would also be much more difficult to apply selectively
Absolutely | 10/29/07
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used an html tag by accident
Absolutely | 10/29/07
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what the pseudo-code should look like:
Absolutely | 10/29/07
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The solution to spam is not to be found in the technical realm... BUT...
Tim Lathouwers | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
Mr Orez | 10/29/07
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A great idea!
Abner Kravitz | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
MarBrock | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
BaltimoreBarry | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
Prof. LittleOldman | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
phatkat | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended? Bull crap, I do it !
versitalbear | 10/29/07
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so who is getting this spam?
linuxoverwindows | 10/29/07
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Whitelist is not the answer SPF is!
brittonv | 10/29/07
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SPF and SenderID lack non-repudiation and they break SMTP relay
georgeou | 10/30/07
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I wholeheartedly disagree, DKIM Won't work SPF/SenderID
brittonv | 10/31/07
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I AIN'T KIDDING---
BALTHOR | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
skipplummer | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
simon89 | 10/29/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
batterycharger | 10/29/07
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if you're
tekWatcher | 10/30/07
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go after the advertisers
tekWatcher | 10/30/07
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I too have wondered this
brittonv | 10/31/07
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Barracuda
plaga_nerezza@... | 10/31/07
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RE: Why spam can only be managed, not ended
gdude@... | 11/05/07
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