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Personally I have 10 Vista Business upgrade licenses that go with my 10 XP Pro licenses. But I won't upgrade to Vista. That's my choice, not yours.

If you can't read about or refuse to acknowledge the Media Foundation Protected Pipeline [EXE] layer that runs every time any audio or video content is played in Vista, that's your choice too.

If you can't see the potential for MS to tighten the restrictions in Vista to play your files because they can't secure their own DRM content, that's your choice.

So how long have you been buying and using MS products? For me it's over 2 decades (21 years). I have beta tested the first three versions of NT. I am also a MS Partner (many years there too). I have watched and personally experienced all of the things that MS has done over almost the entire history of the company.

I don't need to install Vista to read about other people's experience with it and to know what it's about. I don't have to even search to find out about its major shortcomings, some of which are even discussed on MS own web forums. I don't have the time to play with Vista when XP Pro does everything I need anyway. And I especially don't need need to prove anything to you.

But maybe you can enlighten me. Why did you move to Vista just to "rip CD's and DVD's, play Divx movies, run bittorrent and nntp clients, listen to my MP3 collection and everything else I was doing on my old XP box" when you could easily do this on the XP box without paying for new hardware and software?

Also, you do know that ripping, or DeCSS'ing, DVD content is illegal don't you? In spite of fair use, it's illegal to frustrate DRM or unencrypt copyrighted material because of the DCMA. You probably won't be caught or fined but it's still against what the major content companies think you should do.

Perhaps MS does need to block non DRM content because of criminals like yourself. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us. It's people like you that motivate the collusion of MS and the content owners to make it more difficult for everyone.
Posted by: jacarter3   Posted on: 07/17/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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So we need to stop buying DRM Music?  nucrash | 07/17/07
I said no such thing  georgeou | 07/17/07
OT--George, how is your name pronounced  bmgoodman | 07/17/07
Say it with silent U. As in Oh.  georgeou | 07/17/07
Thanks  bmgoodman | 07/17/07
Different countries use different pronunciation rules  georgeou | 07/17/07
Not so quick George ...  MisterMiester | 07/17/07
They might go after you for pirating stuff  georgeou | 07/17/07
DVD Jon and 2600  Edward Meyers | 07/22/07
Watch yourself George.  Letophoro | 07/17/07
Fair use is not a crime  georgeou | 07/17/07
Doctrine of Fair Use Not Applicable ...  MisterMiester | 07/17/07
Fair Use does not apply.  Letophoro | 07/17/07
Nonsense, speech is not illegal  georgeou | 07/17/07
Charles Manson would disagree.  Letophoro | 07/18/07
Re: Nonsense, speech is not illegal  none none | 07/21/07
It would help though  TripleII | 07/17/07
ROI is the killer for sure  voska | 07/17/07
Microsoft has no choice but to offer DRM  georgeou | 07/17/07
I don't buy that  John L. Ries | 07/17/07
It was to be win-win  TripleII | 07/17/07
Tell it to fox  notsofast | 07/18/07
Do you actually read my posts?  John L. Ries | 07/18/07
FairUse4WM breaks Microsoft DRM again...  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
That was hilarious!!!  NonZealot | 07/17/07
But you're not  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
In fairness  notsofast | 07/18/07
What fairness?  jacarter3 | 07/20/07
Is this an exercise of listing what is possible?  NonZealot | 07/20/07
Vista DRM  Salman Pak | 07/17/07
Good for you!  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
Re: DCMA  Salman Pak | 07/17/07
Good for you again and again  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
DCMA has fair use provisions for ripping  georgeou | 07/17/07
George, that's your opinion only  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
It's illegal to sell the software, but it isn't illegal to use it.  georgeou | 07/17/07
Re: It's illegal to sell the software, but it isn't illegal to use it.  none none | 07/21/07
You're only half right  notsofast | 07/18/07
Vista DRM i have to agree Salman Pak i am doing the same stuff on vista  SO.CAL Guy | 07/17/07
Another scoff-law agrees that Vista is soooo great  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
Another American that thinks US laws cover every country in the world  Skyhawk_z | 07/17/07
Good for you too!  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
Again, stripping DRM for content you own is covered by Fair Use  georgeou | 07/17/07
I'm no lawyer but...  brittonv | 07/18/07
It most certainly is not  Edward Meyers | 07/22/07
The biggest example is that Vista doesn't prevent you from playing non-DRM  georgeou | 07/17/07
Yet  jacarter3 | 07/17/07
That was my original point  Salman Pak | 07/17/07
Do you really believe that?  Resuna | 07/18/07
What does it prevent you from doing?  NonZealot | 07/18/07
You mean if everything is working perfectly  Ole Man | 07/22/07
Unless you are a top-tier Microsoft insider  Ole Man | 07/22/07
Good Story George  D. T. Schmitz | 07/17/07
Conspiracy  frgough | 07/17/07
DRM's days are numbered  John L. Ries | 07/17/07
The reason They Even Attempt to Use DRM..  Cayble | 07/17/07
It's not an intelligence thing; it's a political thing  georgeou | 07/17/07
"You can choose to not buy any DRM content" is not the whole story!  Resuna | 07/18/07
But your understanding is completely off  georgeou | 07/18/07
Microsoft is denying you freedom? What?  NonZealot | 07/18/07
You are so right, "you somehow don't "own" your computer"  Ole Man | 07/22/07
Tell it to Fox  notsofast | 07/18/07
Vista's DRM-support is documented, not "conspiracy theories".  Resuna | 07/18/07
You are spreading lies  NonZealot | 07/18/07
Tell that to my neighbor  John L. Ries | 07/18/07
And you attribute this to the DRM conspiracy instead of bad print drivers?  georgeou | 07/18/07
He was the one...  John L. Ries | 07/19/07
Oh brother, some of you have problems understanding context!!  NonZealot | 07/19/07
Never said all XP drivers would work  NonZealot | 07/18/07
"have often worked"  Ole Man | 07/22/07
DRM functionality  Altotus | 07/19/07

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