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Please double-check your facts...
...before making wild accusations.

Those graphs have not been posted just now after they announced the launch frequencies of 2.0GHz, but have been available on AMDs web site for a long time. Just google for the url and you'll see that people have been discussing them since May. At the time they were first published, there simply were no benchmark results of the Xeon 5365 on spec.org and that's the sole and simple reason why they were not included.

It's not a problem to be mistaken, but please don't make bold claims when you didn't take the time to verify your facts.
All of them circle around the simple discrepancy in dates.

I also don't need a magnifying glass to read the caption which clearly identifies the graphs as estimated results. The fineprint additionally explains that they're based on simulations and the accompanying text also talks about "estimates" and "expectations". I really don't know how they could have been much clearer. There's also a good chance the actual launch frequencies were still planned to be in the 2.6GHz range when those graphs were drawn.

On the contrary, you are getting deceptive by labeling the more recent values "certified spec.org" results. Those are all benchmark results submitted by vendors/licensees - nobody certifies them (read spec.org's disclaimer). And again: the values in AMD's graphs are the highest scores published for the respective platforms until April 16th, just like the text says.
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AMD grasping at straws - get used to the deception  Prognosticator | 07/04/07
Does anyone really care?  GeiselS@... | 07/04/07
Then why did you bother to read it?  James T. Kirk | 07/04/07
Never trust benchmarks when tested by the manufacturer  MacGeek2121 | 07/05/07
Desperation of a failing company  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/04/07
Yeah., failing...  jasonp@... | 07/05/07
Yea., failing...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Still in business...  jasonp@... | 07/05/07
blah blah blah blah blah  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Please double-check your facts...  CFKane | 07/04/07
And AMD is in business to make processors?  lenohere | 07/04/07
AMD posted this on their website and in a WSJ ad  georgeou | 07/04/07
Dates  gtdavies33@... | 07/04/07
Random find  CFKane | 07/04/07
A somewhat clearer picture  CFKane | 07/04/07
At least try to hide your bias  CFKane | 07/04/07
AMD has made it a habbit to ommit Intel's best products and scores  georgeou | 07/04/07
For a reason?  dess3 | 07/04/07
For a reason? OK...  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
Clocks...  dess3 | 07/04/07
A dual Intel quad-core system is the same price as a dual dual-core AMD  georgeou | 07/05/07
Yeah...  jasonp@... | 07/05/07
everyone knows  gdude@... | 07/05/07
George at his finest!  linux for me | 07/04/07
So you don't trust certified numbers from SPEC.org?  georgeou | 07/04/07
Did you even read the heading  zkiwi | 07/04/07
LOL, and you think there's a SPECint_rate2007?  georgeou | 07/04/07
Duh  zkiwi | 07/04/07
Well at least you admit he is right and your not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/04/07
What does iPhone and Vista have to do with this?  georgeou | 07/04/07
Advertising...  zkiwi | 07/04/07
Double Duh  Rndmacts | 07/05/07
Just so as you know  zkiwi | 07/06/07
Certified?!?  Robert Crocker | 07/05/07
lol...  jasonp@... | 07/05/07
You have got to be kidding????????  Cayble | 07/04/07
Replied to the right message?  CFKane | 07/05/07
I agree with CFKane  mikhey | 07/05/07
Two idiots don't make it right  Rndmacts | 07/05/07
These numbers are from 2006!  dess3 | 07/04/07
That excuse won't fly  georgeou | 07/04/07
And what's your excuse?  dess3 | 07/04/07
I only used the latest CERTIFIED SPEC.org results  georgeou | 07/04/07
Anyway, you should mention...  dess3 | 07/04/07
Anyway, you should mention... *NEW*  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
What "facts"?  dess3 | 07/04/07
the numbers for the AMD are an estimate ....  ShadeTree | 07/05/07
Not made up  dess3 | 07/06/07
Snap  zkiwi | 07/04/07
CERTIFIED..... Really?  Badgered | 07/05/07
While  Badgered | 07/05/07
Much like watching your favorite sports team lose.  nucrash | 07/04/07
Wrong Intel numbers?  dess3 | 07/04/07
Those are the best scores from SPEC.org  georgeou | 07/04/07
Is this really that simple?  dess3 | 07/04/07
AMD will own the HPC market until Intel comes out with Nehalem  georgeou | 07/04/07
AMD user since 98...  Polytopal | 07/05/07
I don't know what  zkiwi | 07/04/07
ZDNET blunder  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
These are deceptive any way you slice it  georgeou | 07/04/07
WSJ adds with benchmarks where in April.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
WSJ adds with benchmarks where in April.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
WSJ adds with benchmarks were in April.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
They've cherry picked the scores and used outdated scores before  georgeou | 07/04/07
AMD Posts blatantly deceptive benchmarks on Barcelona  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
It's a journalist task to keep marketing honest.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
It's AMD's fault for not having quad-cores. Don't know why you're crying.  georgeou | 07/04/07
You aren't a journalist.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
I'll let you end it there with the cheap shot Hans  georgeou | 07/04/07
"Your" graph uses an outdated AMD result.  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
Again, you're not addressing the 4 core versus 2 issue you cried about  georgeou | 07/04/07
I don't see your 60.4 2222SE result Hans  georgeou | 07/04/07
Latest SPECint_rate2006 results  Hans de Vries | 07/04/07
And you're using outdated score only on AMD's side now  dess3 | 07/04/07
And you're using outdated score only on AMD's side now  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
That is besides the point  CFKane | 07/04/07
Welcome to Sales 101  jasonp@... | 07/05/07
Blunder? Psst, let me tell you something...  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
Read, instead...  dess3 | 07/04/07
LOL  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
Yahoo?  dess3 | 07/04/07
Let me see real CPU vs imaginary CPU  Rndmacts | 07/05/07
Benchmarks are B.S.  meh130@... | 07/04/07
Stop calling them certified  CFKane | 07/04/07
And you're making a habit of omitting the main point of my criticism  CFKane | 07/04/07
The graph disclaimer is from April, that does not mean it was posted in Apr  georgeou | 07/04/07
Finally found your excuse? happy  dess3 | 07/04/07
That's why I asked you politely to check your facts  CFKane | 07/05/07
This should answer your question  georgeou | 07/05/07
Yes, it does  CFKane | 07/05/07
Sure, but now your claiming it was posted in February  CFKane | 07/05/07
and you are missing the point all together.  ShadeTree | 07/05/07
I'm not defending AMD  CFKane | 07/05/07
"Read my Lips"  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
I don't think people bought into your story George  D. T. Schmitz | 07/04/07
George brings new meaning to "Sensationalism" (nt)  dragosani | 07/05/07
I see the results  thetruthhurts | 07/04/07
Will you correct your article  dess3 | 07/04/07
Sure when you can show us some real 2.6GHz Barcelona numbers happy  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Numbers vs. your incorrectness...  dess3 | 07/05/07
Numbers vs. your incorrectness...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
These  dess3 | 07/06/07
George Ou posts blatantly deceptively posts on Amd.  Bozzer | 07/05/07
Sorry you don't like the results. Nothing changes.  georgeou | 07/05/07
Nothing?  dess3 | 07/05/07
Actually, this is pretty accurate  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Your frustration  dess3 | 07/06/07
No, these numbers are re-making the rounds  georgeou | 07/05/07
There you go  CFKane | 07/05/07
I'm talking about the NDA slides on DailyTech  georgeou | 07/05/07
Read your own story again  CFKane | 07/06/07
George Ou always tell the truth  pa2004 | 07/05/07
C'mon  another_voice | 07/05/07
Why does AMD post benchmarks of non-existent product  pa2004 | 07/05/07
The whole point was to tell about a future product  another_voice | 07/05/07
At it again, George?  bidemytime | 07/05/07
Is -no-prec-div ethical?  cherullo | 07/05/07
compiler flags ethical now?  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
In benchmarks, sure  cherullo | 07/05/07
AMD makes good chips at a good price  Protector | 07/05/07
Should pay attention  Chad_z | 07/05/07
Remember this is a blog, and not a real article.  el1jones | 07/05/07
RE: Remember this is a blog, and not a real article.  joe6pack_z | 07/05/07
INTEL is noted for this type advertising  JerryLof | 07/05/07
ZDNet Blatantly deceptive reporters...  Narg | 07/05/07
Same can be said of IDG reporters  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
writer bias  dshcpa | 07/05/07
Aww...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Here's a bad review for Intel and a positive review for AMD  georgeou | 07/05/07
looser  f1x7777 | 07/05/07
Hey you...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
The whole article is based on a lot of wrong assumptions, so pointless  dess3 | 07/05/07
sticks and stones may hurt my bones...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Different topic  dess3 | 07/05/07
The launch of K8...  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
Xeon 5365 is a 130W TDP part  dess3 | 07/06/07
I can't figure it out...  raymondftz | 07/05/07
Blogs are not news reporting  enovikoff | 07/05/07
loose vs. lose  f1x7777 | 07/05/07
LOL you are a moron  thetruthhurts | 07/05/07
George you cheque is in the mail tx Intel  bilboa | 07/05/07
Good reporting George  narsos | 07/05/07
He-he, that's what I live for  georgeou | 07/05/07
way to "out'em" Ou  ttocsmij | 07/05/07
Thank Dog you corrected the story!  D. T. Schmitz | 07/05/07
I'll be happy to read another story  D. T. Schmitz | 07/05/07
George, you have a point, but you miss everyone else's.  Bill F. | 07/06/07
You "EXPECT" deception?  georgeou | 07/06/07
Yes George, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.  Bill F. | 07/06/07
You just keep selling that apologist Kool-Aid  georgeou | 07/06/07
Keep on spinning  zkiwi | 07/06/07
And here was me thinking  zkiwi | 07/06/07
What about the bugs in the Intel Processors?  eye4bear | 07/08/07
Those bugs don't mean anything  georgeou | 07/08/07
How much?  omt66@... | 07/08/07
Explain to me why AMD was forced to remove those deceptive slides  georgeou | 07/08/07
Debunking George Ou's rabid attack on AMD  TechExec2 | 07/09/07
Same old TechExec2, SIMULATED BENCHMARKS ARE BOGUS.  georgeou | 07/09/07
Same old George Ou, ESTIMATED BENCHMARKS ARE ESTIMATES  TechExec2 | 07/09/07
Same old George Ou, TELLING FALSE STORIES IS LYING  TechExec2 | 07/09/07
Same old George Ou, TELLING FALSE STORIES ABOUT AMD IS LYING  TechExec2 | 07/09/07
The only thing we hear from TechExec2 is...  thetruthhurts | 07/09/07
Well, George,  Jambalaya Breath | 07/15/07
Message has been deleted.  kevencage | 07/19/07

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