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You nailed it George, people cant have it both ways. Im all for new ideas and new technology but so far nothing can replace traditional power sources.

Demand has grown as government has held down the rates charged to consumers while at the same time it prohibits new power plants from being built.

This causes increased demand and no increase in supply. The result is shortages.

True the power companies are protected monopolies but government has set it up that way and the so called "public utilites commissions" are a joke.
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