By any chance
D-T-Schmitz | 06/06/07
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No I haven't. I just spent 15 minutes with it at CTIA
georgeou | 06/06/07
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You seem to forget all of the features build into the OLPC that the Intel
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
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Come on George, do your research. Convince you are not Dan Quayle.
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
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he can't
balaknair | 06/07/07
|
  
Intel and ASUS would be wise NOT to use the Sugar OS
georgeou | 06/07/07
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George, DO YOUR RESEARCH. With what hardware did they achieve a 15 second
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
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OK, but who decided those are "the important things"?
Absolutely | 11/08/07
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"my honest assessment" - problem is its not an assessment - NT
raycote | 06/07/07
|
 
It would be nice...
D-T-Schmitz | 06/07/07
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When I get more information, I will
georgeou | 06/07/07
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What on earth are you talking about?
wolfgangleithner@... | 06/08/07
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While we're on the subject of what does not compare ...
Absolutely | 11/08/07
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so...you've dissed the OLPC with NO information
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
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Oh that was superb!...Zing...
D-T-Schmitz | 06/08/07
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Thumbs up!
NonZealot | 06/06/07
|

He-he, a little laughter for the afternoon is good
georgeou | 06/06/07
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Define honest please
obecerra@... | 07/11/07
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A question about Eee PC
Tony Agudo | 06/06/07
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I'm trying to find out. NT
georgeou | 06/06/07
|
 
Think I may have found the answer
Tony Agudo | 06/06/07
|
  
Sweet, that's a killer price
georgeou | 06/06/07
|
   
OK!
kvo | 06/07/07
|
    
I'd most likely run what it comes with, Linux
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
It has Linux, by default? Interesting surprise
Tony Agudo | 06/07/07
|
     
If you think about it, the Eee could threaten Microsoft
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
15 seconds?! I'm sold now
Tony Agudo | 06/08/07
|
   
Come on George...
jasonp@... | 06/08/07
|
  
This is bomb shell !
Prognosticator | 06/07/07
|
   
See my post about OLPC "Wannabes"
dumptux | 06/07/07
|
    
Third world can't use the OLPC
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
True, I guess
dragosani | 06/07/07
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George, do you realize how stupid that statement was?? Feed them for life??
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
Unless...
jasonp@... | 06/08/07
|
     
Not true, ask someone real to check your answer
obecerra@... | 07/11/07
|
   
Stop and take a deep breath. There is a TARGET of $200 coming off the
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
  
Right, a stripped down model MIGHT start as low as $200.
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
   
You mean like the OLPC?
FatherJ | 07/03/07
|
  
If it's $200 per unit to consumers, ...
mwagner@... | 06/07/07
|
   
Again, Intel has NOT come out and told us the components and manufacturing
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
Eee cost $400-600
charbax@... | 06/07/07
|

And you know all that by looking at the photo eh?
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
He probably looked it up on the intarweb
nucrash | 06/07/07
|
 
Insensitive
T1Oracle | 06/07/07
|
  
You should check my background before calling me insinsitive
georgeou | 06/07/07
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George, starting out in a humbe environment does not suddenly give you the
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
    
hey girlie boy,
zzz1234567890 | 06/07/07
|
     
It is an insult to say the only thing we should do is feed them and give
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
   
He was right
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
   
It's not about your background
T1Oracle | 06/07/07
|
    
The desert might be a good case for a sealed laptop
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
How about anywhere there are kids involved? You need something that does
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|
   
Why not just say that you are out of touch with reality?
B.O.F.H. | 06/09/07
|
 
way off target
waltmaine | 06/07/07
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But, will sell them for $200? Is $200 sustainable? We need a computer that
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
 
Tell us about your Education degrees, George
dumptux | 06/07/07
|
  
Look here
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
The Great and Powerful Ou
jacarter3 | 06/07/07
|
    
You're making wild guesses
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
I wonder
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
     
You're confusing University degrees for Primary school
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
Sounds pretty bigoted to me.
jacarter3 | 06/07/07
|
     
My fault
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
   
George, you background does NOT give you the right to be insensitive to
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
 
I've tried Classmate and Asus 7" laptop
charbax@... | 06/07/07
|
  
Excellent videos
Tony Agudo | 06/07/07
|
 
Good thing!
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|

Oh and last time I checked, ASUS made these
georgeou | 06/07/07
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LOL. Take him to school George!!! (nt)
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
 
How do you know?
waltmaine | 06/07/07
|
  
Last time I checked, Intel is not in the business of losing money
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
Come on DO YOUR RESEARCH. Is the $200 a reatail target for 2015??? Or, is
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
    
Why are you ranting like a maniac.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
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he isn't ranting he's being totally rational
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
   
"not in the business of losing money"
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
 
Ok George, do you research, call Intel and ask what the production cost is,
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
  
Even if...
lenohere | 06/07/07
|
   
We are only asking for real verified numbers, not speculation.
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
    
Intel is not at all planning to mass produce cheap laptops
charbax@... | 06/07/07
|
     
Then they should make that clear, and not write letters to countries
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
The man in the know
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
    
Donnie, please, stop using "We" like you're
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
     
I thought he had a french turd in his pocket
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
   
And for good reason!
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
   
ohhh the poor diddums!!
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
 
George, please, it's "LOSE"!!
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
 
Asus is doing the legwork...
johnfatz@... | 06/09/07
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Message has been deleted.
ballmerrules@... | 06/07/07
|

Yet another Spam from you for your half-assed blog.....
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|

The more he says
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
When will these be available to the general public?
JJ_z | 06/07/07
|

They say it will be
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
In that case, change the title of your article.
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
For Shame
B_SELLEG@... | 06/07/07
|

Bingo!
Linux User 147560 | 06/07/07
|

Anyone can design a $200 traditional laptop
raindog469 | 06/07/07
|

Where did 'this competes with OLPC' come from?
shis-ka-bob | 06/07/07
|
 
Look here
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
  
Take you background and shove it. That does not give you a right to
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
   
Don't tell me what I can say
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
    
And we are free to call you on it when you make stupid insensitive
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
I have been on George about this
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
     
But, George insults others, and then hides behind his background. So, I
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
Yes
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
     
And, that is another thing, THEY CAN NOT SELL THEM, THEY STOP WORKING
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
    
Except that the question was...
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
   
His background gives him insight
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
    
His background doe not make him an expert in education, and does NOT
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
I agree
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
     
and they'll be able to write their own books and share them
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
  
"artificially propped up"?????????????????????
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
   
WHat bothers me is . . .
JLHenry | 06/09/07
|
  
What is your education and background in education?
B.O.F.H. | 06/09/07
|
   
These "are you beating your wife questions" are stupid
georgeou | 06/09/07
|
    
Could not address your lack of an educational background?
B.O.F.H. | 06/09/07
|
     
Do you even have enough decency to avoid attacking someone?s family?
georgeou | 06/09/07
|
     
Apparently others agree with me about your biases...
B.O.F.H. | 06/09/07
|

If only...
lenohere | 06/07/07
|
 
Your logic is lost
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
  
You have that rigth.. Reality Sux doesn't it...
lenohere | 06/08/07
|
   
"Reality Sux"
Ole Man | 06/08/07
|
I think this was probably a case of some engineers saying ...
brcowan@... | 06/07/07
|
Tactile Feedback and OLPC
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
Bringing in Western Bias?
TripleII | 06/07/07
|

Agree Whole Heartedly
kwokyinchan@... | 06/07/07
|

Ou may not be old enough
raindog469 | 06/07/07
|
You are comparing an ultramobile PC with the OLPC device?
B.O.F.H. | 06/07/07
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Internet connection
Anton Philidor | 06/07/07
|
Good find.
odubtaig | 06/07/07
|

4GB is more than enough if you clean out the uninstall files
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
In the target markets, price is a HUGE factor.
CobraA1 | 06/07/07
|

Who's paying?
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
 
The heck with the end user...
Confused by religion | 06/07/07
|
  
lol
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
 
True, true
CobraA1 | 06/07/07
|
  
I see your point
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
Cheap Hardware Is NOT Inexpensive!
gafisher@... | 06/07/07
|
Fantastic that more are jumping in on the idea.
Narg | 06/07/07
|

Truth be told, I might buy one
raindog469 | 06/07/07
|
 
Money would be better spent giving them consistent power and clean water
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
  
George, that is so stupid. Should we feed them and their children forever??
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
  
so how does that make the ASUS/Intel machine better.....
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|

Only thing worse than a kid without a computer is a kid without food
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
So, do we NEVER spend money on education untill there are no hungry kids in
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
  
"We"????
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|
  
I had no text books in 1st and 2nd grade
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
in other words, all have to learn in the same way as george
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
    
Never said that. Just that every time people try to teach using computers,
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
I sort of agree, but that doesn't make a case for the Asus
stevey_d | 06/08/07
|
   
A bitter man
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
    
Personal attacks don't help your cause.
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
I did not attack you personally
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
  
Also, India isn't stupid
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
because india think they can make the olpc for $10
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
   
India is not a person
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
OLPC is for developing countries, NOT your office!
billsen@... | 06/07/07
|

At least he got to make fun of Apple. *rolls eyes* [nt]
olePigeon | 06/07/07
|

Well, they'd also do well for....
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
George, I'm surprised at you...
Old Timer 8080 | 06/07/07
|

George Is Not a Responsible Journalist
kwokyinchan@... | 06/07/07
|
 
*Waiting for Defending Comments*
jhhicks@... | 06/07/07
|
 
Look up top....
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
  
Part of blogging is you need to take the heat. With blogging, there is
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
   
Not at all
James T. Kirk | 06/07/07
|
    
Now wait a minute. George was not polite at all with the title, and his
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
    
George uses personal attacks as well
dragosani | 06/07/07
|

That's because you don't know anything about me
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
You are rigth...
lenohere | 06/07/07
|
 
so Asus is also unhelpful to education
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
 
Have you patented this response?
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
 
Then you aren't capable of providing an objective review
teddybairs1 | 06/07/07
|
  
Nothing subjective here
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
There you go...
D-T-Schmitz | 06/07/07
|
   
His goal seems to be...
jasonp@... | 06/08/07
|
    
Win2003 boots in 15 seconds after the post
georgeou | 06/08/07
|
     
1 Second???
jasonp@... | 06/09/07
|
     
You said Acrobat load times, that doesn't include a file
georgeou | 06/09/07
|
     
Ok, George...
jasonp@... | 06/10/07
|
Killer?
fredblotnic | 06/07/07
|
This is what it is suppose to do
doc.two@... | 06/07/07
|
George Gu, Please Do Your Research
kwokyinchan@... | 06/07/07
|

To be fair ...
gafisher@... | 06/07/07
|
There is a lesson here.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|

It's not perfect for third world, though
Tony Agudo | 06/07/07
|
 
Thank you for pointing that out..
Been_Done_Before | 06/07/07
|
  
When something isn't commercially viable, it's doomed to failure
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
Why?
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
    
Money doesn't produce good education
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
Who is kidding whom?
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
   
Not True
TrustMe_z | 06/07/07
|
   
Georg's rules
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
   
It wasnt meant to stand on its own... thats why they went cheap
Been_Done_Before | 06/08/07
|
   
Ahh, the BIAS surfaces: It's ALL about the MONEY!
Old Timer 8080 | 06/08/07
|
   
So . . . .
JLHenry | 06/09/07
|
  
It is ALWAYS about competition.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|
   
for the target application the OLPC wins hands down
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
    
That is certainly one opinion.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
     
But, is it a real choice? Or is this just FUD to slow down OLPC??
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|
     
Yes its a choice. Intel and ASUS
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
 
Not following you
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|
  
RE: Not following you
xsbanks | 06/07/07
|
   
Does it matter in any way?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|
    
We are probably talking more like 5x more power. And kids
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
     
You know that to be a fact?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
  
Are you forgetting about the foot pedal?
Tony Agudo | 06/07/07
|
   
"feasible"
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
    
Well, I have spent time in the third world,
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
     
I have visited and resided in many rural spots
Ole Man | 06/08/07
|

more useful for Third World kids without reliable electricity?
A.Lizard | 06/07/07
|
 
Gosh, the Eee runs Linux. NT
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
No M$, no good review
dilbert@... | 06/07/07
|

No Microsoft?
Anton Philidor | 06/07/07
|
 
How I should have titled my comment
dilbert@... | 06/08/07
|

The Eee runs on Linux if you haven't noticed
georgeou | 06/08/07
|
Worst experience?
dcconlee@... | 06/07/07
|
Vista Killer
jabailo1 | 06/07/07
|
Insensitive thought?
JayMar13 | 06/07/07
|
A first world evaluation ...
George Mitchell | 06/07/07
|

And, what is the REAL cost of the Intel laptop delivered to developing
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
 
Here is a clue......
magpie_z | 06/10/07
|

But..but..but..........
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
The Main Issue for OLPC "Wannabes"
dumptux | 06/07/07
|

They don't need to
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
Hey, and apples are better than oranges
RonCri | 06/07/07
|
heat and dust...
balaknair | 06/07/07
|

Check my backgroun
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
Back then
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
 
but the OLPC isn't for the purpose you seem to think it's for
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
This article is just plain simple ! - NT
raycote | 06/07/07
|
Comparing Apples and Oranges
ryan@... | 06/07/07
|

Neither one is perfect
Michael Kelly | 06/07/07
|
 
you took the words out of my mouth
ryan@... | 06/07/07
|
  
We're well beyond the Model-T
Michael Kelly | 06/07/07
|
   
"beyond the Model-T"?
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
Typical American Business Management
NeutralityNow | 06/07/07
|
This is all so silly
bidemytime | 06/07/07
|

The US Public education system proves me right
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
George, one time that computers are used in an inappropriate way and it
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
 
These links prove nothing ...
George Mitchell | 06/07/07
|
 
An act of Congress
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
  
You're entitled to your opinion
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
Likewise!
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
 
Make up your mind, George
bidemytime | 06/08/07
|

But that...
dragosani | 06/07/07
|
This PC would not have seen the light of day if not for the OLPC initiative
mwiley_z | 06/07/07
|

Maybe, but doesn't change the fact that it's better
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
"better" in boot speed, but it will fail after several hours
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
this is just plain embarrassing
A.Lizard | 06/07/07
|

cnet is also owned by ZDNet. Think of this as free speech.
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
 
Correction: ZDNet is owned by CNET Networks
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
  
It sure is nice
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
People w/o clean water, electricity, fixed telephone lines
Dr-T | 06/07/07
|

People without clean water, food, and power don't want money spent on toys
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
 
you asked them all, right??
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
  
The people paying don't need to ask.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/07/07
|
   
I have no clue what you're talking about here
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
 
There are still hundreds of millions out there with food and water that are
DonnieBoy | 06/07/07
|
  
Yes, but it's still "pedagogically suspect"
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
which is why they said they'd make their own OLPC for $10
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
    
Yeah, it's call some pens, paper, and text books
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
     
obscure fantasy about $10 olpc?
stevey_d | 06/08/07
|
     
George, printing and distributing textbooks will be more than the cost of
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|
   
George, the OLPC is free if you consider the money saved on textbooks.
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|
 
You have a pitiful outlook
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
  
When did I tell you what to do?
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
   
Do I look like "other kids" to you?
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
ASUS/Intel junk has no battery life, will break easily, and so is useless
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|
George can I suggest a better test for you to complete in 5 minutes
stevey_d | 06/07/07
|

George, that Asus looks more like a toy that the OLPC
nix_hed | 06/07/07
|
OLPC--True stand alone PC
xsbanks | 06/07/07
|
Please, be fair!
kvo | 06/07/07
|
With all intents & purposes , let us be fair ?
Intellihence | 06/07/07
|
You still don't get it do you?
teddybairs1 | 06/07/07
|
ASUS and Intel slaughters OLPC with Eee-ase
goxk@... | 06/07/07
|
Lofty Ideals
aureolin@... | 06/07/07
|

In the words of Microsoft
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
ga
charles656oio@... | 06/07/07
|

Fourth world?
Ole Man | 06/07/07
|
Why this might help more than it hurts
CobraA1 | 06/07/07
|
Ummmm
TonyMcS | 06/07/07
|

hmm...lets go with WHAT?
Monkey_MCSE | 06/07/07
|
 
GO MONKEY!
Linux User 147560 | 06/08/07
|
  
He probably overdosed
Ole Man | 06/09/07
|

There are NOT 50 million computers available on eBay, AND, if you imagine
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|
OLPC price question
lostcsl2@... | 06/07/07
|

MS has nothing to do with that
georgeou | 06/07/07
|
typical geek comment
patibulo | 06/08/07
|

Honestly I would have rather had an Eee even in my mud school
georgeou | 06/08/07
|

BTW, no one's showing off here. I simply responded to people calling me
georgeou | 06/08/07
|

Next thing you know...
jasonp@... | 06/08/07
|
shocking, even by ZDNet's standards
mdsmedia | 06/08/07
|
The Intel PC has not been optimized for power usage and would use at least
DonnieBoy | 06/08/07
|

Why dismiss ALL the other advantages?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|
 
Since you "run a company"
Robert Crocker | 06/08/07
|
  
If you don't have electricity, you've got other priorities other than a com
georgeou | 06/08/07
|
   
"No Electricity . . . ."
JLHenry | 06/09/07
|
   
ah the arrogance...
magpie_z | 06/10/07
|
    
Life looks simple when you shop in a supermarket and have airconditioning
georgeou | 06/11/07
|
The posts are STRANGE !!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/07
|

Your post is strange too
dragosani | 06/08/07
|
I HAVE PROOF, I HAVE PROOF!!!!!!!
bidemytime | 06/10/07
|
One elitist blind mouse
albucario | 06/13/07
|

I don't see the connection.
Absolutely | 11/08/07
|