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$1 billion?
You cite "many" estimates that this will cost hundreds of millions or even a
billion dollars worth of losses. Could you provide an actual citation?

Security is important, but it fails when sold through hyperbole, too.
Posted by: Mitch Ratcliffe   Posted on: 05/07/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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$1 billion?  Mitch Ratcliffe ZDNet Moderator | 05/07/07
I'm not reporting that, others are  georgeou | 05/07/07
People like me?  Mitch Ratcliffe ZDNet Moderator | 05/07/07
You can start with the WSJ article I linked to  georgeou | 05/07/07
So, no responsibility?  nizuse | 05/08/07
Gratuitous hate won't improve your clarity  fuzzy2k | 05/08/07
Chill out, that's an inside joke  georgeou | 05/08/07
Sorry  fuzzy2k | 05/08/07
No problem, I should have sent that in email  georgeou | 05/08/07
He said "could", not "will".....  linux for me | 05/09/07
Shocking  D. T. Schmitz | 05/07/07
I don't know, maybe it is necessary  georgeou | 05/07/07
Just the facts ...  orcmid | 05/07/07
Multi-factor is a scam that falls under "snake oil" in security  georgeou | 05/07/07
Some one tell my bank that as well  nucrash | 05/08/07
No, I'd rather use my own smartcard/keygen  georgeou | 05/08/07
Multi-factor authentication  dancac | 05/08/07
Compounded Cluelessness  orcmid | 05/08/07
Standardised processes may not create high quality  Patanjali | 05/09/07
You're right, consistently low quality  georgeou | 05/09/07
Don't get me started about ISO certification  High Sierra | 05/15/07
I like the thinking, but let's improve shall we  nucrash | 05/08/07
Default insecure is standard  Marty R. Milette | 05/08/07
People have no Idea how un secure our info is  masonfcobb1@... | 05/08/07
Employers are free to use SSNs as identifiers  orcmid | 05/08/07
Figuring out the damages  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 05/08/07
The lawsuits and fines will pile up  georgeou | 05/08/07
Why hasnt anyone asked why TJX's External Auditor's never caught this?  TSGlassey | 05/08/07
That's not how auditing works  georgeou | 05/08/07
Uhhhhh - No George - that's exactly how Auditing works...  TSGlassey | 05/10/07
I've seen how auditing works, and I'm not impressed  georgeou | 05/10/07
TJX management bears the responsibility.  micallefman@... | 05/08/07
Heres the problem, SOX doesn't say you can't use WEP  georgeou | 05/08/07
Correct George  micallefman@... | 05/14/07
The costs of the damages may actually never be known...  TSGlassey | 05/08/07
1 Billion should just be the initial fine...  enduser_z | 05/08/07
I agree, $100 per record should be the minimum fine  georgeou | 05/08/07
Sorry, need to fix math  georgeou | 05/08/07
was the cc data itself encrypted?  JetJaguar | 05/08/07
Doesn't matter, they failed Access Control and Host hardening  georgeou | 05/08/07
Failing Host Hardening is another Audit Issue!  TSGlassey | 05/10/07
Their hosts were compromised because their authentication was leaked  georgeou | 05/10/07
The 0th flaw in wireless security  dpnewkirk | 05/08/07
That kind of cynicism is wrong and harmful  georgeou | 05/08/07
Seeing choice when you actually have choice  dpnewkirk | 05/09/07
Righ on target.  singerap | 06/06/07
Yet another reason why retailers should not be allowed to keep CC data.  Been_Done_Before | 05/08/07
Why store the CC numbers anyhow ?  mikew_z | 05/08/07
Sloth, laziness, greed, incompetence, etc.  ejhonda | 05/08/07
Why not?  enduser_z | 05/08/07
Even if they didn't store it, it's still a big problem  georgeou | 05/08/07
WPA questions...?  techboy_z | 05/08/07
In most cases, you can't...  Marty R. Milette | 05/08/07
WPA is for making access points private  orcmid | 05/08/07
Public APs don't have security.  georgeou | 05/08/07
Don't trust your network  Sxooter_z | 05/08/07
That's the wrong attitude for it  georgeou | 05/08/07
You completely missed my point  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
VPN shouldn't be a substitute for link-layer security  georgeou | 05/09/07
and one more thing  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
Sorry, that's completely wrong  georgeou | 05/09/07
Last post, honest.  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
His solution sucks and it's wrong  georgeou | 05/09/07
Such eloquence!  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
btw  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
VPN doesn't fix basic access control  georgeou | 05/09/07
Again, you missed his point  Sxooter_z | 05/10/07
absolutely untrue  zoroaster | 05/08/07
oops...  zoroaster | 05/08/07
Uh, if that was a response to "don't trust the network"  Sxooter_z | 05/09/07
Heres a sad truth, law enforcement problem  masonfcobb1@... | 05/08/07
Hm....I agree  Krazyken39 | 05/09/07
it might be that only WEP works  ttocsmij | 05/08/07
Then replace the hardware...  burkhartmic | 05/08/07
WEP is still better than...  burkhartmic | 05/08/07
Your son will figure it out.  gordon@... | 05/09/07
A lot more information on Wireless Security  gordon@... | 05/09/07
Hope they all go bankrupt  High Sierra | 05/15/07
i actually think $1B seems low...  merenguegod@... | 05/15/07
It's the fines and replacement costs  georgeou | 05/30/07

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