Does OS X probe for hidden SSIDs
mertt | 03/26/07
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All OSes can do it. The question is whether it lets you disable.
georgeou | 03/26/07
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OSX probing
techknowshaman@... | 03/27/07
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As of OS X 10.4, the ability to turn off probing was removed
georgeou | 04/01/07
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Can OSX 10.4.9 turn off probing
Punchinello | 05/08/07
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So at home
mtgarden | 03/26/07
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If you're already using WPA-PSK, SSID hiding is harmful to your laptop
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Then,
mtgarden | 03/26/07
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There is no such thing as hiding the AP
georgeou | 03/26/07
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About the CISSP, I'm trying to get them to fix their training
georgeou | 03/26/07
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So true...
PhilippeV | 03/27/07
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Nope
ajmac2 | 03/26/07
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No, I'm saying "hidden" SSID is dangerous for your laptop
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Missing Something
TripleII | 03/26/07
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No, here's why
georgeou | 03/26/07
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I don't understand...
Kikaida | 03/27/07
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SSID and spoofing
PhilippeV | 03/27/07
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George - Updated ICSA whitepaper link - previous one is broken...
webgrokker | 03/28/07
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Smart update
klumper | 03/28/07
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Thanks, I updated the link
georgeou | 04/02/07
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I use
none none | 03/26/07
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That doesn't help. You should be using WPA
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Re: That doesn't help. You should be using WPA
none none | 03/26/07
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Priceless
TripleII | 03/26/07
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It probably doesn't matter...
GW Mahoney | 03/26/07
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I've seen performance hits for using WEP instead of WPA
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Mac Address Filtering
TripleII | 03/26/07
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No, it's a waste of time if you're using real security
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Not entirely a waste
rpmyers1 | 03/26/07
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When that sign costs more than a steel perimeter, it's a bad investment
georgeou | 03/26/07
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WEP Only devices
rpmyers1 | 04/02/07
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Update the device to WPA or be forced to run weak security
georgeou | 04/02/07
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Re: Not entirely a waste
none none | 03/26/07
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WPA PSK is MUCH easier
georgeou | 03/26/07
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What's easier to manage?
Resuna | 03/27/07
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MAC is not a legitimate way to block devices from a WLAN
georgeou | 03/27/07
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"No further replies to this post will be accepted."
Resuna | 03/28/07
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Corporations don't use PSK mode
georgeou | 03/28/07
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Good point
GW Mahoney | 03/26/07
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Oh but that's wrong, you CAN use an IP and MAC at the same time
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Then I agree
TripleII | 03/26/07
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Your laptop will always probe
georgeou | 03/26/07
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How to disable probing in OS X 10.4.9?
unzdn | 03/26/07
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If there's no security on your hidden SSID
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Don't be so quick to agree...
Cornhead | 03/26/07
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But no one's cracked WPA
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Keep hammering the point
klumper | 03/27/07
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Know your audience...
Cornhead | 03/26/07
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Let me ask you some questions as a home user
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Know thy enemy...
Cornhead | 03/26/07
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That's called the "stick your head in the sand" approach
georgeou | 03/26/07
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au contraire, mon frere...
Cornhead | 03/26/07
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Don't know what your point is
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Know your audience...
Cornhead | 03/27/07
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Then again..
KWierso | 03/27/07
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Calling Cornhead
klumper | 03/27/07
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Thanks George, You Convinced me!
bka1959 | 03/26/07
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No problem, I also hope I saved you some time on avoiding nonsense
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Re: Let me ask you some questions as a home user
none none | 03/26/07
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Breaking in to a home is a lot more risky
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Re: Breaking in to a home is a lot more risky
none none | 03/26/07
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Thank you
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Not everybody talks WPA
bowman@... | 05/14/07
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maybe better questions?
dick@... | 03/27/07
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Re: Know your audience...
none none | 03/26/07
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Pop Quiz time!
toadlife | 03/26/07
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Assuming there's equal entropy in the PSK, they're equally secure
georgeou | 03/26/07
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Come on George!
toadlife | 03/26/07
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my answer is
w3nd13 | 03/26/07
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hardwired is nice and easy but
dick@... | 03/27/07
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without a doubt the answer is ....
thelemite | 03/28/07
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lol
toadlife | 03/28/07
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Only if you believe in fairy tales
georgeou | 03/28/07
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Wireless Security myths .. yep
gmiller@... | 03/27/07
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additional data
gmiller@... | 03/27/07
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MAC filtering uses...
Resuna | 03/27/07
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Proposition for you George
t00 m4d f00 | 03/27/07
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Re: Proposition for you George
none none | 03/27/07
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Nice one, lol
georgeou | 03/27/07
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(nt)Maybe his house is made of concrete?
toadlife | 03/27/07
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Quantify the exposure on WEP?
Resuna | 03/27/07
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Look up active WEP attacks
georgeou | 03/27/07
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How lucky do you feel?
klumper | 03/27/07
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Lucky Enough.....
ruprick_z | 03/27/07
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Don't give up quite yet
klumper | 03/28/07
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PS
klumper | 03/28/07
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Roku + WPA works
jmelnik | 04/05/07
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distributed computing demos!
PhilippeV | 03/27/07
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You don't need distributed or even a powerful PC for WEP
georgeou | 03/27/07
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WPA-Enterprise is Easy and FREE
uberpinguin | 03/27/07
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I've been using TinyPEAP, but you can also use openwrt with freeradius
georgeou | 03/27/07
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Encryption
donthetech | 03/27/07
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We can quantify the exposure of home users!
PhilippeV | 03/27/07
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Wireless security
micallefman@... | 03/27/07
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You've asked the right person
georgeou | 03/27/07
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MAC filtering is useful
sdgeek | 03/27/07
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You got that right
Krazyken39 | 03/29/07
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A few corrections
klumper | 03/29/07
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Maybe I should have said
Krazyken39 | 03/30/07
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The unaccounted factor
klumper | 03/30/07
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Good Report
fasthair | 03/29/07
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In car talk
klumper | 03/29/07
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Wow this is the post that never dies!
tschrock | 04/01/07
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Drive by WiFi
D-cat | 04/01/07
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Securing your AP with a unique MAC is useless and time consuming
jakesty | 04/01/07
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MAC can be changed for all NICs, some easier than others
georgeou | 04/02/07
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SSID broadcasting - your conclusion seems wrong to me
ivo_z | 04/05/07
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Laptop is at much greater risk
georgeou | 04/05/07
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SSID Hiding DOES provide value
robkraft@... | 07/20/07
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SSID hiding makes you MORE vulnerable
georgeou | 03/06/08
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You don't understand...
Jxn | 01/05/08
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MAC address filtering
justincase@... | 01/10/08
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It's easier on a smaller scale, but why bother if it's useless?
georgeou | 03/06/08
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