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Microsoft Partner: Vista less secure than XP  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
P.S.  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
I'm confused . .  john.murray@... | 03/19/07
1st Paragraph  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
Missed hypocrisy?  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Priceless  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
Expert? Then get his sorry butt over here  John Zern | 03/19/07
less intrusive and less secure  woot! | 03/19/07
Unless you are running your PC on a limited account.  ajole | 03/23/07
Re: less intrusive and less secure  william.furr@... | 03/28/07
Message has been deleted.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Anybody who telsl me those commercials aren't effective...  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
I didn't say there weren't effective. Joseph Gerbils was "effective"  georgeou | 03/19/07
Who is " Joseph Gerbils"?  Harry_Boner | 03/19/07
Oh sure I know the answer but why answer...  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
Be sure you don't make a typo yourself when you criticize other people  georgeou | 03/19/07
So your comparing Apple's Ads to Genocide?  Tigertank | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Ummm....my aunt and cousins base IT descisions on commercials.  nomorems | 03/19/07
"Apple is a master of propaganda."  nomorems | 03/19/07
nomorems: Grow Up!  ye | 03/19/07
re:I didn't say there weren't effective. Joseph Gerbils was "effective"  joe6pack_z | 03/19/07
Why base IT security decisions on TV commercials...  ignis fatuusz | 03/19/07
OK...so ye must be George by a different name.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Beware of Rodent Propagandists  noisecraft | 03/19/07
Me too!  Harry_Boner | 03/19/07
I thought he was trying to make a Richard Gere joke...  tic swayback | 03/19/07
If that's how you want to judge me, that's your prerogative  georgeou | 03/19/07
Not a personal attack, but...  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
Message has been deleted.  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
Message has been deleted.  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
I believe you mean Joseph Goebels...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Yeah I screwed up the funky German spelling  georgeou | 03/19/07
Your welcome ...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Your welcome ...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Yeah, Harry was poking fun of my spelling and he screwed up his own  georgeou | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
More than a simple spelling mistake  Tigertank | 03/19/07
Actually, I beleive it's  John Zern | 03/19/07
You beleive? You mean you believe!  nomorems | 03/19/07
please notice  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
Lunatix_Z  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Linux_z spelled backwards........are your ******* in a bunch?  nomorems | 03/19/07
I can't believe it stevey_d  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
"He make derogatory remarks about anything, race, gender whatever."  nomorems | 03/19/07
Off subject for nomorems  John Zern | 03/19/07
No. He meant Joeseph Gerbils.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
never posted until I read this one  jbeggy | 03/19/07
I read the one  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
George, You have to email me what you said  nucrash | 03/20/07
2nd Paragraph  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
You know what they say...  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
please clarify  Badgered | 03/19/07
I am happy your experience has been positive  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
I'll answer with what I know  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Annoyance is relative  Patanjali | 03/19/07
A voice of reason  klumper | 03/20/07
Yeah, and most of them stink.  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
On a new machine Vista's UAC CONSTANTLY asks...for everything! VPN, FTP,  nomorems | 03/19/07
if that's the case  Badgered | 03/20/07
pardon my fuzzy memory  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Truely clueless  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/19/07
Dude! Quit posting so you can see you name!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Because  Swift48 | 03/21/07
Well, that "expert" doesn't make any sense  georgeou | 03/19/07
OK. Perfect.  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
vulnerabilities george... and before they became exploits...  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Wait till more than 12 people are using Vista.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Maybe,  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
The people that disable UAC are the same ones that run in Admin mode in XP  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
The subtext  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Actually.  fredsmith6 | 03/20/07
UAC just isn't all that secure  jfp | 03/19/07
We're talking about breaking programmatic exploitation  georgeou | 03/19/07
That's just dishonest, UAC much more annoying  willhoyt | 03/19/07
dishonesty  Jack-Booted EULA | 03/19/07
Furthermore  frgough | 03/19/07
Swiss cheese is when you have 62 vulnerabilities in less than 3 months  georgeou | 03/19/07
And how many have actually been exploited?  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
To my knowledge no Vista vulnerability has been exploited.  ye | 03/19/07
you're an idiot! it's 62 vulnerabilities not exploits...  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Vulnerabilities are a danger as...  ye | 03/19/07
Calm down docotr. George DOES know. He is just playing his AD's!  nomorems | 03/19/07
doesn't change the fact that no exploits written before holes were closed.  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
doctorSpoc: You've never made a mistake?  ye | 03/19/07
Yes, Doctor SPOC, George is an idiot. With a harem of 1000 Microsoft shills  nomorems | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Tu Quoque fallacy  frgough | 03/20/07
Shame on George  1macgeek | 03/20/07
OUCH, ya been "B" slapped.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/19/07
You bet. Georges words hurt the MIND! Ouch!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Of course they hurt  John Zern | 03/19/07
Then you must be installing software "ALL THE TIME"  georgeou | 03/19/07
What exactly  Badgered | 03/19/07
You shills really are something  willhoyt | 03/19/07
Word triggers UAC? You're showing a good deal of ignorance.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Word triggers UAC? You're showing a good deal of ignorance.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Reason is your friend  themacolyte | 03/20/07
You've never really used Vista have you?  Badgered | 03/20/07
"I?m just showing you the facts on who?s really the annoying one"  nomorems | 03/19/07
I can't believe you are thinking that you make sense  ChipWinter | 03/19/07
What do users do with OK prompts?  voska | 03/20/07
My kids won't install things while I'm in the batheroom.  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Vista can be set to prompt for user ID and PW.  ye | 03/19/07
And Yet George comments on Macs all the time.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Two wrongs don't make a right.  ye | 03/19/07
How is it 'clear' that my Vista use is absent? Do you work with me?  nomorems | 03/19/07
It's clear because what you say about it is wrong.  ye | 03/19/07
OK. And how is that?  nomorems | 03/19/07
If you disagree with something I've written then...  ye | 03/19/07
Ohh...I get it. It's OK for Microsoft supports but not OK for anyone else!  nomorems | 03/19/07
It's not that your supporting something else, it's...  ye | 03/20/07
Disqualification  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Clueless Critics  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Yup, the main reason of UAC is enforcing Win2K policies  georgeou | 03/19/07
Yup. UAC is nothing other than warmed over 'tech'.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Absolutely  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
You can make Vista do the same thing, but do we want that?  georgeou | 03/19/07
number of prompts...  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Everyone is MISSING THE POINT!  nomorems | 03/19/07
shutup....  JoeMama_z | 03/19/07
Another disqualification  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Maybe many are afraid  John Zern | 03/19/07
not a chance  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
That was meaningless  John Zern | 03/19/07
because you didn't get what i meant  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Uh, no...there are many processes running on OS X...  ye | 03/19/07
Yes and no.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Wrong...try ps -ax instead  ye | 03/19/07
For non techies  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Great reply by Thomas.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Man, Microsoft is even copying user names from ZDNet?  nomorems | 03/19/07
'Scuse me?  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Missed hypocrisy?  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Whoops  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
I did not miss point, George did  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Links please!  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Again, more ignorance  georgeou | 03/19/07
Different Views, Multi-user vs. Single user  themacolyte | 03/20/07
Windows Deserves it  astawerksdotcom | 03/19/07
number of prompts...  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
ignore parent post  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Denile  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
It's moot because it hasn't made a dent in Windows market share  georgeou | 03/19/07
How convenient that you use Apple's patch  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Vista vs OSX Market Share  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
The difference is...  ye | 03/19/07
Vacuum  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
Oh please!  ye | 03/19/07
Marketshare  Harry Bardal | 03/20/07
Can you buy a new PC without Vista?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Try Dell  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
Won't last more than a few months  georgeou | 03/19/07
You'd be surprised George.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
Hate to tell it to you but you just added a bit more evidence!  nomorems | 03/19/07
"Can you buy a new PC without Vista?"  nomorems | 03/19/07
You can buy a Microsoft free system from Dell.  ye | 03/19/07
And I will bet 500$ that users CAN find this link EASILY!  nomorems | 03/19/07
You make me laugh!!  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Here you go George PC without Vista  mrlinux | 03/20/07
Hypocrisy  Harry Bardal | 03/20/07
You didn't? Funny, you put marketshare in your title.  ye | 03/20/07
118 Posts from George this year and NO intellegent discourse!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Exploit vs Vulnerability  msalzberg | 03/19/07
You keep drinking that kool-aid  georgeou | 03/19/07
Where are the exploits?  msalzberg | 03/20/07
How many times must it be said: Marketshare.  ye | 03/20/07
Again, that can't be the only thing...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
Re; Marketshare.  ky_druid | 03/21/07
Hmmm, Mac 10.4 is several years old. Vista has 46 exploits  usc1801 | 03/21/07
Where do you make these numbers up for Vista?  georgeou | 03/25/07
Reality Check  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
What the facts say  frgough | 03/19/07
Man are you guys CLUELESS  ye | 03/19/07
You might know this is you actually bothered to LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT Vista.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Maybe so you'll be able to make an INFORMED...  ye | 03/19/07
Oh...great Marketing Schtick! Know it BEFORE you buy it!  nomorems | 03/19/07
There's a difference between...  ye | 03/19/07
There IS a difference! I say READ READ READ! USE USE USE! You say 'Get MS'  nomorems | 03/19/07
As a computer user,  msalzberg | 03/19/07
Keep on trollin'  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Choice is good  klumper | 03/19/07
Choice is Good. There's no point in hyping Microsoft over other vendors.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Nothing wrong with choice. But there is something wrong...  ye | 03/19/07
OK. So someone who does not buy Microsoft warez product unseen is usless???  nomorems | 03/19/07
I'll stop responding to you.  ye | 03/19/07
Actually  Badgered | 03/23/07
We're on the same page  klumper | 03/19/07
Facts, indeed.  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Patched n loaded  klumper | 03/20/07
Patches? We don' NEED no stinkin' patches!  M.R. Kennedy | 03/20/07
Remember when computers ONLY  LittleGuy | 03/19/07
The good 'ol days of 1994. (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
It does bring back tears happy  klumper | 03/19/07
Yes, I do.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
UAC much more intrusive than OS X  TashaG | 03/19/07
OH yeah one other thing  TashaG | 03/19/07
To Dual platform goddess  rolla_ifs@... | 03/19/07
actually, it's that way for a good reason  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
Agreement from a Windows IT guy...  jdriddle | 03/21/07
Annoying repetitive queries are harmful  PhilippeV | 03/21/07
What apps are you using?  george_k | 03/26/07
Less prompts doesn't mean that is better...  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
The comercial is funny  gtdavies33@... | 03/19/07
It is funny  Badgered | 03/19/07
Guess you don't use Vista like a REAL WORLD user!  nomorems | 03/19/07
And that would make you  John Zern | 03/19/07
wow  Badgered | 03/21/07
Yep. Because...  BitTwiddler | 03/19/07
Should George be writing articles about Apple...  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Couple of things  georgeou | 03/19/07
Probably  tic swayback | 03/19/07
You've already been proven wrong so badly why do you even care?  georgeou | 03/19/07
What's he been proven wrong about?  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
Where's all that proof?  tic swayback | 03/19/07
great response!!  Arm A. Geddon | 03/19/07
Proven wrong? By what, your words? Those are worthless! (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
tic... one Ou week = 2.6 years  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Unstuck in time  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Yeah, I see what you mean  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
Two wrongs don't make a right  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Nah  xuniL_z | 03/20/07
"should he (X_Zunil) behave in a similar manner?  Ole Man | 03/21/07
George: Fourth, I'm waiting on Microsoft to tell me what to do. (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
Likely story  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
A new SBW....  bkwatch | 03/19/07
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA  nix_hed | 03/21/07
That's not "a couple" of things, George  therobotman | 03/22/07
you've got it.  Arm A. Geddon | 03/19/07
ha ha ha ha  blackRiver | 03/20/07
The whole thread  Ripragged | 03/19/07
Wrong target  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/19/07
Experience counts  People | 03/19/07
You think Win95 is a real multi-user system?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Nope.  People | 03/19/07
oooooohhh!!!  nomorems | 03/19/07
A Significant Difference....  brichpmr@... | 03/19/07
Not a Fair Comparison  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
You're clueless about Vista  georgeou | 03/19/07
Adobe CS on Macs  sordito | 03/19/07
But Mac dude says you're imagining it  georgeou | 03/19/07
Apple writes Adobe's software?  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Does Microsoft write Quickbooks?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Actually, what we are left with is Microsoft calling millions of developers  nomorems | 03/19/07
And so do I because you're WRONG or lying  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
George, it is also prompting for things not needed  TripleII | 03/19/07
I'd love to hear some examples...  toadlife | 03/19/07
How bout read some example, hard to post .mp3 grin  TripleII | 03/19/07
And like I said, you don't understand the concept of shared icon  georgeou | 03/19/07
I don't think you understand time causality  TripleII | 03/19/07
easy  JoeMama_z | 03/19/07
If that is sound security, push for it  TripleII | 03/19/07
It's clear you haven't used Vista since Beta 1 or you're just citing old  georgeou | 03/19/07
How recently...  brichpmr@... | 03/19/07
I never made false claims about OS X  georgeou | 03/19/07
In Your Opinion.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Exactly  Julien Collot | 03/20/07
Please provide steps  NonZealot | 03/20/07
Link please  NonZealot | 03/19/07
He was talking about an old beta and citing paul thorott  georgeou | 03/19/07
No, I EXCLUDED Paut Thorott!  TripleII | 03/19/07
Give me a proper example of non-install prompts  georgeou | 03/19/07
I'll leave it to gtdavies  TripleII | 03/19/07
how about starting a program  TashaG | 03/19/07
Why does Xfire need admin?  NonZealot | 03/19/07
About Xfire  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
Not too many consumers know how to check an MD5 hash  georgeou | 03/20/07
Links  TripleII | 03/19/07
Point by point  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Goog arguments, my response  TripleII | 03/19/07
And my response back  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Try this  toadlife | 03/19/07
"legacy application written for XP"  nomorems | 03/19/07
Has ZDNET not yet figured out who their TRUE readers are?  nomorems | 03/19/07
Good...now go away.  ye | 03/19/07
just don't read the posts if you don't like the poster  stevey_d | 03/19/07
What annoys me so much is that he responds...  ye | 03/19/07
Ugh...me, too...  Grayson Peddie | 03/20/07
nomorems  cmjrees | 05/07/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Keep Up The Good Work  Ole Man | 03/21/07
Given the greenhouse Apple and Microsoft are in...  joe6pack_z | 03/19/07
George, leave the Nazis out of the argument in future  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Advertising is the art of propaganda  georgeou | 03/19/07
it was a recommendation not a strongly held beleif  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Here George,  D-T-Schmitz | 03/19/07
Yeah, ZDnet absolutely hates advertising  dangitman | 03/19/07
Move out of America?  georgeou | 03/20/07
George's little blog and big ego  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
George Ou: the grand Censor of America  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Oh please stevey, spare us the emotives  klumper | 03/20/07
I had a teacher...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
George! Where is the Love???  nomorems | 03/19/07
Not his fault  fde101 | 03/23/07
Windows XP and earlier do have ways of handling privilege escalation  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 03/19/07
Yes I know, but that's not graceful  georgeou | 03/19/07
Yes they should  roaming | 03/19/07
Are you kidding?  xstep | 03/19/07
Microsoft doesn't need to respond to Apple  georgeou | 03/19/07
Intel and Apple  nucrash | 03/20/07
Actually, that's about all they do  JoeBob_z | 03/20/07
And yet...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
Stupidity knows no bounds  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
I was there  gjsherr | 03/21/07
You've proved that you don't know what you're talking about  georgeou | 03/27/07
Good comparison of Vista and Mac user interaction  michaelz | 03/19/07
Gerbils?  dangitman | 03/19/07
Only comparison is the propaganda  georgeou | 03/19/07
You have to admit..  GTWilson | 03/22/07
this is funny  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
ZDNet dysfunctional in Safari, serious errors in Firefox.  Fred Fredrickson | 03/20/07
I wrote to them months ago about this  j.m.galvin | 03/20/07
On the Contrary  nucrash | 03/20/07
Both videos are a bit misleading...  dwight.silverman@... | 03/20/07
To refute this  nucrash | 03/20/07
Funny Commercial  GoofPuff | 03/20/07
Nice one George Ou  zzz1234567890 | 03/20/07
Brown noser extraordinaire  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Is it about accuracy then?  any_os | 03/20/07
Is it malicious?  NonZealot | 03/20/07
UAC is the first thing I turn off  zaine_ridling | 03/20/07
Where's your sense of humor?  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Maybe because  Swift48 | 03/21/07
Bothered me  ITguy5678 | 03/21/07
Authentication vs Approval  Resuna | 03/21/07
Apple Lover vs Mac Lover  bob3160_z | 03/21/07
Deceptive Story  dolph0291 | 03/21/07
Neither is perfect  ethman42 | 03/21/07
To sleep, perchance to dream...  gjsherr | 03/21/07
Examples of repetitive UAC prompts  PhilippeV | 03/21/07
What's funny about Mac VS PC commercials  butler360 | 03/22/07
Should Apple be making fun of George Ou?  iMouse | 03/22/07
UAC = HAL  therobotman | 03/22/07
IMHO -UAC is more annoying on Vista  8string | 03/22/07
UAC is not a security feature  SecurityGeek_z | 03/23/07
Vista is way too intrusive......  WakkoWarner | 03/26/07
re UAC  w3nd13 | 03/26/07
No, haven't tried it, but sounds like I should  georgeou | 03/27/07
you're WRONG!  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
you're stupid  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
the true is that Windows Vista's UAC is better than Mac and Linux  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
George is passing along his Ballmer bucks to you, huh  sergiovf@... | 03/29/07
George, give'em WINBLOWS or give'em BSOD  sergiovf@... | 03/29/07
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