Classic Case of Microsoft vs Small Company
nucrash | 03/05/07
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EMC isn't exactly a small company
t_mohajir | 03/05/07
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Novell wasn't a small tyke either
nucrash | 03/05/07
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This is the problem
LittleGuy | 03/05/07
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Very simple
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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I agree with you, Internet Explorer should not be free!
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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Wrong.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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There are several products that Microsoft gives away for "free".
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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Perhaps so, but as stated so well here
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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So you will stop crying on these boards then?
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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B.O.F.H.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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well, then stop OSS free software
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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You are confused as usual!
B.O.F.H. | 03/06/07
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I can't tell...
dragosani | 03/05/07
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Key point in your post...
jasonp@... | 03/05/07
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Yes
dragosani | 03/05/07
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laughable.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Confused?
dragosani | 03/05/07
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So you understand
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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No I don't agree
dragosani | 03/05/07
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I guess it's more of the idea.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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I Applaud You
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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Since you know that
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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"MS has never left the consumer w/o choice.", it just keeps getting funnier
jmelnik | 03/06/07
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Your blaming the wrong people.
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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not a laughing matter.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Google
dragosani | 03/05/07
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Not according to
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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LOL, yeah
dragosani | 03/05/07
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I don't believe that Linus
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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No the Linux folks
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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come on now.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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So because people are asking why
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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meanwhile you ignored
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Because your comments on Linus are speculative
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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LU, you call this speculative?
xuniL_z | 03/08/07
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I realize most of this but
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Sigh
dragosani | 03/05/07
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* sigh sigh*
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Google is far from owning the Internet
dragosani | 03/05/07
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okie dokie.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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What country do you live in?
dragosani | 03/05/07
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I'm quite sure that Google
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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whoops.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Get A Clue
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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Contrast MS to Google.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Yes!
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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Are you sure about that?
thelemite | 03/05/07
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And yet...
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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I would have to say based on your statement
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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"justice cannot be applied"
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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From where you sit
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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From where I sit, MS knowingly broke the law
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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well
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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xunil_z says "j.a. carter (aka jack a$$ Carter)"
jacarter3 | 03/06/07
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But eunich_z will never admit that.
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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Political!?
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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I agree!
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Where have you been for the past 20 years?
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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That's fine.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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xuniL_z, you are wrong on too many counts!
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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If you feel that way
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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What About Your Intent?
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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"Funny since MS as not pricing anyone out of business"
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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Why in the world would someone
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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I wouldn't admit to anything, either
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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There was competition on x86: CP/M-86
NetArch. | 03/06/07
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DR DOS
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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Why?
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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For the same reason that I can't
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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And yet non-monopoly companies do it all the time.
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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I may allow for the
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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"who wins? Linux of course" huh?
jmelnik | 03/06/07
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much like the open source
xuniL_z | 03/08/07
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Free OS's and Software
ryan.o.davis@... | 03/06/07
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It's a gray area
xuniL_z | 03/08/07
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You're Nuts!
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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It is called dumping.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Selling goods...
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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Selling or renting or licensing.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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"if given away by a for profit corporation"
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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You bet it is.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Wrong
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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It's not FUD but don't worry
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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"Recipe" analogy - put up or shut up
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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No, you are wrong jacarter3.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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jacarter. If you are going to argue against yourself
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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osreinstall - go reinstall and try again
jacarter3 | 03/06/07
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All carters are bad at economics
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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again, dead on
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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You're right
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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jacarter3, MS never killed its workforce like Standard Oil.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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He Doesn't Have To Answer You
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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I never argued for a dictatorship
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Precisely!!!
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Yep.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Our fathers gave their lives for...
John L. Ries | 03/05/07
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Was trying to respond to Xunil
John L. Ries | 03/05/07
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No Use!
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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Are you Joking??
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Only In A Troll's Mind
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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See my post below
John L. Ries | 03/05/07
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See the mess below
John L. Ries | 03/05/07
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No, you got it right
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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You Don't Understand
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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keep in mind
Quebec-french | 03/05/07
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Message has been deleted.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Message has been deleted.
Quebec-french | 03/05/07
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I guess we can
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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He Didn't Say Anything About The US
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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Well of course
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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"laws against selling or giving away products under cost"
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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* sigh *
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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_bigger sigh_
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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If Microsoft can get away with what they have
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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It sure does sort of.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Which Americans?
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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tic, you're standing in the trenches now
jacarter3 | 03/05/07
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I'm staying out of this one mostly
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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Tic, surely you think IP is part of a free enterprise's rights?
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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I believe in IP
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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IP is more than copyright.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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True
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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We swiped some stuff but not all of it like you claim.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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ridiculous?
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Response to both of you
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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I don't think so Tic.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Clearly we have a misunderstanding here
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Might be your doing.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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MIght very well be
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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I thought so.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Still a few misunderstandings
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Not Really.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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you missed the entire point.
xuniL_z | 03/09/07
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Just a little reminder for you.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Actually, it kind of is a stretch
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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Not really.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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History lesson
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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That war was 1776 with the intro of patents in 1780s.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Somewhat
tic swayback | 03/05/07
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No they weren't. They stole no more than anyone else.
osreinstall | 03/05/07
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Not saying we're the bad guys
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Sure sould like it to me.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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But we're talking about 120 years
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Sorry, Americans had talent also.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Two wrongs do not make a right
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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No it doesn't but you always say we are the worst.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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My country, right or wrong? Sigh.
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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No, My country because the others were more wrong.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Wrong is wrong
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Wrong is wrong but choosing the lesser of 2 evils is necessary.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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And your point is?
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Not trying to cast aspersions
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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That wasn't my point
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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Wartime?
tic swayback | 03/06/07
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Yes.
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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Trolls Like You
Ole Man | 03/05/07
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what happened?
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Hipocrit
Suicida| | 03/05/07
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hypocrit?
xuniL_z | 03/06/07
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"Free software should be illegal" ??? Now I've heard it all... ROFLMAO (nt)
jmelnik | 03/06/07
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You said it, Bro
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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Not what was posted.
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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90 Day limitation....
JoeMama_z | 03/05/07
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Software isn't a product
cls@... | 03/05/07
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Let MS give their software away for free
LittleGuy | 03/05/07
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and the same goes for OSS or FOSS.
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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The Violations
dragosani | 03/05/07
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Wha....?
Suicida| | 03/05/07
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TROLL!
Suicida| | 03/05/07
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VMWare can affort giving its products for free
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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Really, what happens if 10 million people download it?
georgeou | 03/05/07
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thats the same problem Microsoft is facing
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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Life is rough when you are increadibly wealthy!
B.O.F.H. | 03/05/07
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If I ever see
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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Who (what company) does Microsoft really compete with?
B.O.F.H. | 03/06/07
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who is their competition?
xuniL_z | 03/08/07
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Big difference
georgeou | 03/05/07
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competition is not a walk in the park
zzz1234567890 | 03/06/07
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MP3 case has now been overturned
georgeou | 03/06/07
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Where did you hear that?
Letophoro | 03/06/07
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Link here
georgeou | 03/06/07
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The ruling wasn't overturned according to the article you linked to.
Letophoro | 03/07/07
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RE: George OU
ShadeTree | 03/08/07
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MS if forced by EU to do the same
zzz1234567890 | 03/09/07
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"forced to compete and survive"
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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Well, thereis the installed base...
B.O.F.H. | 03/06/07
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VMWare can/should join the fight against free software
code_Warrior | 03/05/07
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What a bunch of idiotic morons
Ole Man | 03/10/07
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Are you sure about that?
thelemite | 03/05/07
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Doh! Wrong button!
thelemite | 03/05/07
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Here is what is going on with this
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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the world goes round and round
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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I favor open competition with ONE exception
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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no exceptions to the rule
zzz1234567890 | 03/05/07
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You don't understand antitrust law
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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and you dont understand software, competition, IT
zzz1234567890 | 03/06/07
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Did you read about antitrust?
TechExec2 | 03/06/07
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read anti-trust and Sherman Act
zzz1234567890 | 03/09/07
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Mistakes in your analysis
georgeou | 03/05/07
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That comment of mine is...
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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Dead On
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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Thanks, Ole Man
TechExec2 | 03/07/07
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Or, to put it another way...
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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What a pathetic post that is
TechExec2 | 03/07/07
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A Very Good Portrait
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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Thanks, Ole Man
TechExec2 | 03/07/07
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Now HERE is some REAL HYPOCRISY to shout about
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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You don't have any facts.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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You are completely wrong about everything
TechExec2 | 03/05/07
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and why is that
zzz1234567890 | 03/06/07
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Here is the answer for you, and anyone else who really wants to know
TechExec2 | 03/06/07
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and you seem to be complaining about competition.
code_Warrior | 03/06/07
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You are wrong and you don't understand
TechExec2 | 03/06/07
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TechExec2 - you are worse than a yackity yack grandma
zzz1234567890 | 03/09/07
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defconvegas: Clear evidence that you have nothing to say
TechExec2 | 03/10/07
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I say so too!
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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and infact xuniL_z was right on target
zzz1234567890 | 03/06/07
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Ha ha ha!
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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Why do you
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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IBM does the same thing with vicious contemp.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Remember when Computers were first sold
nucrash | 03/06/07
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Sorry, got in later.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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"should not be free give-aways by anyone"
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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It shouldn't
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Don't forget it wasn't just dictators
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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You make some interesting points
TechExec2 | 03/08/07
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Us moderates can see what is going on.
osreinstall | 03/08/07
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Okay, who do you suggest sets the prices?
D-cat | 03/10/07
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The actual cost of the product.
osreinstall | 03/10/07
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I like the idea, but how would you make that work?
D-cat | 03/11/07
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Actually dumping laws exist.
osreinstall | 03/11/07
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Well now... the FUD in these posts
Linux User 147560 | 03/05/07
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it's not that it hasn't been good
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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gratis vs. Free
NetArch. | 03/06/07
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Thank you for understanding what I meant...
Linux User 147560 | 03/06/07
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ok ok
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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I have no agenda and certainly not ignorant.
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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But true Linux
Linux User 147560 | 03/06/07
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Didn't know of a false linux
osreinstall | 03/06/07
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Not intended that way.
xuniL_z | 03/05/07
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I dont blame Microsoft for that
p.vinnie@... | 03/06/07
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VMware isn't dependent on apps for Windows
georgeou | 03/06/07
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What an outstanding post you made here!!
TechExec2 | 03/08/07
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I concur with you both
Ole Man | 03/10/07
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Opinion about OS licensing!
jjarman | 03/06/07
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Well, a predatory Monopoly has to eat....
erm@... | 03/06/07
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wow that is a excellent call
Quebec-french | 03/06/07
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Interoperability is key
lkarnis@... | 03/06/07
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What I would love to see
Ole Man | 03/06/07
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RE: xunil_x ( or whatever) " proving if they've modified the source.."
handydan918 | 03/06/07
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But doesn't that go against the original
xuniL_z | 03/07/07
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M$ is committed to their customers
ClearCreek | 03/07/07
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According to Mary Jo:
LittleGuy | 03/08/07
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RE: The facts on VMware vs. Microsoft
a1931582 | 11/22/09
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