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Games, DRM, and Electronic Arts
Ah yes. Games and their copy protection which heralds far worse things for the user than most. Yet, if I want to move my game over to a new PC because the old one died, I usually can do this without too much of a problem. Try moving DRMed content, like trying to recover songs off of an iPod after a computer crashed. Wow, what a pain that is.

Yet then again, I have spent many nights working on my computer trying to get two specific games to play. And after being burned not once, but twice by Electronics Arts, I think I need to not buy any more of their products ever again. Both Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 refuse to work on my current PC which meets and handily exceeds the specifications to play the game. Given the option, I would say that Game companies have been guilty of screwing over the customer for years, but none so openly as Electronic Arts.
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Simply not true  Edward Meyers | 02/22/07
I think he's right  Mythox | 02/23/07
Except that's not what he wrote  Edward Meyers | 02/24/07
Games, DRM, and Electronic Arts  nucrash | 02/22/07
I would agree  eb276 | 02/22/07
But with music and movies you have a choice with DRM  georgeou | 02/22/07
Where can I purchase movies without DRM?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You are barking up the wrong tree  georgeou | 02/22/07
How can I rip them?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You can't rip them  Mythox | 02/23/07
FYI, I've transfered Windows Media DRM many times  georgeou | 02/22/07
That's why MS is trying to market Windows Home Server  nucrash | 02/23/07
Backed up  Ian Mc | 02/22/07
What do you tell these tales? I just ripped a DVD yesterday on Vista  georgeou | 02/22/07
And you've just admitted committing a criminal act.  Letophoro | 02/22/07
Backing up content is "fair use"  georgeou | 02/22/07
Bypassing CSS to do so is a criminal act. (nt)  Letophoro | 02/22/07
You are somewhat correct, but...  Tony Agudo | 02/22/07
What software does George rip DVDs with?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Re: You are somewhat correct, but...  none none | 02/22/07
If this is true, why is DVD Jon still a free man?  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: If this is true, why is DVD Jon still a free man?  Letophoro | 02/22/07
DVD Jon was forced in to court  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: DVD Jon was forced in to court  Letophoro | 02/22/07
I guess everyone using Linux is breaking the law too then  georgeou | 02/22/07
Possibly. But then the same arguments apply to every OS.  Letophoro | 02/22/07
You guess wrong  tic swayback | 02/22/07
It's illegal?  dragosani | 02/22/07
Under which provision of Section 107 of Titke 17 U.S.C.?  B.O.F.H. | 02/22/07
The RIAA disagrees with George  tic swayback | 02/22/07
RIAA can bite me  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: RIAA can bite me  Letophoro | 02/22/07
They might just bite you  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Well, Linux is in violation too I guess  georgeou | 02/22/07
Is this a response out of desperation?  B.O.F.H. | 02/22/07
Nope, it's what happens when people ask rhetorical questions  georgeou | 02/22/07
I think you're confusing multiple issues here  tic swayback | 02/22/07
So you admit it's legal to backup  georgeou | 02/22/07
When did I make that claim?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You are not exercising any of the ?Fair Use? provisions under Copywrite Law  B.O.F.H. | 02/22/07
Re: So you admit it's legal to backup  none none | 02/22/07
It's OK as long as you can do it without breaking CSS  sdgeek | 07/19/07
The DMCA did not modify section 107  Edward Meyers | 02/22/07
Re: What do you tell these tales? I just ripped a DVD yesterday on Vista  none none | 02/22/07
Since when are DVDs "hi def"?  georgeou | 02/22/07
DRM isn't necessary  D. T. Schmitz | 02/22/07
DRM will soon be irrelevant  Don Collins | 02/22/07
DRM is irrelivent, the RIAA just dosnt know it yet  Cayble | 02/24/07
DRM and Vista  Letophoro | 02/22/07
Those were minor driver differences and it wasn't across the board  georgeou | 02/22/07
And France is full of French people.  Letophoro | 02/22/07
"they'll shift to DX10 which is Vista only."  Ole Man | 09/27/08
Keep smiling  frgough | 02/22/07
Digital RESTRICTIONS Management.  Khaotic_One | 02/22/07
Missing the point  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Market Forces  Harry Bardal | 02/22/07
Only way they can kill off ripped DVD and MP3 is with a root kit  georgeou | 02/22/07
Wow George are you off your meds today?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You really need to go there? What meds do you take?  georgeou | 02/22/07
Wow, you really have no response to my point  tic swayback | 02/22/07
The point is you really don't have a point  georgeou | 02/22/07
My point, once again  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Actually Tic has a point  nizuse | 02/22/07
Re: My point, once again  none none | 02/22/07
Re: You really need to go there? What meds do you take?  none none | 02/22/07
Fanboys  Harry Bardal | 02/22/07
Well done!  dragosani | 02/22/07
Link please!!  NonZealot | 02/22/07
iPod vs Vista Cage Match  Harry Bardal | 02/22/07
The zealots forget about Apple's TPM DRM chip!  NonZealot | 02/22/07
Re: The zealots forget about Apple's TPM DRM chip!  none none | 02/22/07
Freedoms  Harry Bardal | 02/22/07
Care you backup your outragious claim?  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: Care you backup your outragious claim?  none none | 02/22/07
If he's making outrageous claims on Vista, he sure as hell should at least  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: Does DRM really limit Vista?  none none | 02/22/07
Again, you're not telling the truth here  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: Again, you're not telling the truth here  none none | 02/22/07
Vista costs the same as XP  georgeou | 02/22/07
Re: Vista costs the same as XP  none none | 02/22/07
Also, it's backing up a DVD is covered under fair use even under DCMA  georgeou | 02/22/07
Not exactly  Edward Meyers | 02/22/07
DRM is service affecting for NON DRM content  TripleII | 02/22/07
You're speculating  georgeou | 02/22/07
Keyword: "now"  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You keep smoking that pipe  georgeou | 02/22/07
Who is smoking a pipe?  dragosani | 02/22/07
No, he stated some wild speculation  georgeou | 02/22/07
Easy Answer  dragosani | 02/22/07
It Should Be As Clear As A Vista  Ole Man | 03/06/07
Ignore history at your own peril  tic swayback | 02/22/07
You talk of history but you cite nothing  georgeou | 02/22/07
Did you actually read my post?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Well then you just proved we should boycott Apple  georgeou | 02/22/07
Yes we should--but then again, that's still irrelevant here  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Ah that's a nice dodge  georgeou | 02/22/07
Principles  Harry Bardal | 02/23/07
Once again, please read what I've written  tic swayback | 02/23/07
Speculating?! Good One.  TripleII | 02/22/07
Okay, I took the challenge  NonZealot | 02/22/07
The Point  TripleII | 02/22/07
You know this for a fact?  NonZealot | 02/22/07
You kill me, LOL  TripleII | 02/22/07
Speculating Part II  TripleII | 02/22/07
Non HDCP-DVI monitors and/or HD Televisions  TripleII | 02/22/07
I agree 100%  NonZealot | 02/22/07
I wonder ....  IAHawkeye | 02/23/07
Peter Gutzman analysis  John L. Ries | 02/22/07
Damning? He had to resort to human body parts and the inquirer  georgeou | 02/22/07
And?  dragosani | 02/22/07
How many times?  NonZealot | 02/22/07
That's the part with the vugar references  georgeou | 02/22/07
What is the problem?  TonyMcS | 02/22/07
I think you are confused  tic swayback | 02/22/07
But we DO have fair use under Vista  georgeou | 02/22/07
Where are these mandates?  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Look up "managed copy" under HD DVD  georgeou | 02/22/07
Thanks  tic swayback | 02/22/07
Only hypocritical liars  Ole Man | 03/06/07
The Freedom to Tinker  D. T. Schmitz | 02/22/07
Thank you Dietrich!  Tony Agudo | 02/22/07
Your hero Gutzman had never even touched Windows Vista  georgeou | 02/22/07
As I said about Guttman,...  Tony Agudo | 02/23/07
I've never touched a live rattlesnake, either  Ole Man | 03/06/07
DRM Affects gameplay if...  edu_tech | 02/22/07
Here are my test results  georgeou | 02/23/07
Thanks  edu_tech | 02/23/07
No problem, was easy to verify  georgeou | 02/23/07
My god I agree with George...  IAHawkeye | 02/23/07
As I said above....  tic swayback | 02/23/07
True that.  IAHawkeye | 02/23/07
Vista DRM not yet implemented  Jakewaldo | 02/26/07
Keep Drinking the Kool-Aid  thedude@... | 02/26/07
Keep believing all that MS propaganda.  kraterz | 02/26/07
There is no polling while not playing protected media.  Mythox | 02/27/07
"straight from the horse's mouth (MS' website)"  Ole Man | 03/06/07
totally agreed, kraterz  davelane | 02/27/07
You're missing the point...  sweklaweklfwe@... | 02/26/07
I think he got a point instead.  Mythox | 02/27/07
"DRM stuff is never invoked until you play protected content"  Ole Man | 03/06/07
Vista DOES add some DRM to MCE TV Recording  jstraumann@... | 02/28/07
What a bunch of FUD. Take a journalism class.  textureglitch@... | 03/03/07
What a bunch of FUD. Take a journalism class.  textureglitch@... | 03/03/07
Yes. DRM limits Vista  bricar2 | 03/20/07
George, Are YOU another IGGY person?  Old Timer 8080 | 07/18/07
It's even worse: buy a no-name PCI card, can't play DRM any more  sdgeek | 07/19/07
This writeup doesn't talk about gutman's analysis  plasmacutter | 07/17/08

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