You're asking for it...
broper | 10/22/06
|

I did mention CNET and ZDNet blogs
georgeou | 10/22/06
|

Well, there are many reasons for bias...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Cumulative Effects
Harry Bardal | 10/22/06
|

So how about 2 year old unpatched Mozilla flaws?
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
Are they really unpatched George?
Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
|
  
Yes, they are, but not "why" you think...
NetArch. | 10/23/06
|

Oh really?
April May | 10/23/06
|
 
Yet another Microsoft cheerleader.
nomorems | 10/23/06
|
George needs to read more...
bportlock | 10/22/06
|

Sorry, but both applied to firefox 1.x series
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
Both Apply to Mozilla Gecko 1.7 not the current Version 1.8
Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
|
  
At least Secunia....
bportlock | 10/22/06
|
   
He didn't read SA12403 either as it only effects Macs
Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
|
    
What I don't understand....
bportlock | 10/23/06
|
     
All data must confirm pre-conceived conclusions
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
  
SA12580 NOT patched
Gungnir | 10/23/06
|
 
Sorry George, one of those old flaws was another vendor.
osreinstall | 10/23/06
|
I am sorry but
D. T. Schmitz | 10/22/06
|
All I can say is, "wow"
tic swayback | 10/22/06
|

Funny reaction
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
Nice excuse George, but I'm not buying it
DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
|
  
Yep, that's true
April May | 10/23/06
|
 
Reading comprehension 101
jragosta | 10/22/06
|
 
Do you know how to read?
tic swayback | 10/22/06
|
  
Some other ZDNet bloggers...
Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
|
   
Bias is fine
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
   
ANTON!
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
    
For some reason...
Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
|
     
No, Not really
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
 
Ignore the zealots George
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
  
Better yet...
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
   
Even better yet....
wcb42ad | 10/23/06
|
    
Great quote
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
"make them look foolish"
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
     
George's point is valid in some ways
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
    
I'm still looking for the problem with IE6
April May | 10/23/06
|
 
Journalistic integrity
mhenriday | 10/23/06
|
 
He Forgot To Mention
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|

What?
ju1ce | 10/23/06
|

Oh, if only...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
POT KETTLE BLACK, George
barstewards | 10/22/06
|

Let's try and address the actual points
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
Maybe when you HAVE actual points
jragosta | 10/22/06
|
  
And how...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
 
What?
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
 
What mindless attack?
barstewards | 10/23/06
|
  
Where are the facts!
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
 
George
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
  
Huh?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
Is IE7 New?
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
Everyone else grasps it, can't you?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
In this case
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
You would have IE bloated then?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
  
Care to cite the "significant flaws"?
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
The OE flaw
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
What part of the word "minor" do you not understand?
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
New code should not include bad old code
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
Again, it does not include OE code
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
Because...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
 
Let the consumer decide...
techotter@... | 10/31/06
|

Exactly what I was thinking! NT
IronCladChicken | 10/24/06
|
Flaws in _____
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/22/06
|

You should not confuse OE with Outlook
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
George, if it's an OE function
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/22/06
|
  
It's code in OE and it's easily verifiable after the patch
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
   
George, these people are unbelievable!!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
    
It's almost like a disease of the mind
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
Pointing out your bias
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
    
Please learn to read
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
Strawman
tic swayback | 10/24/06
|

Yagotta B...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Bias well justified
DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
|

Bias in the press is NEVER JUSTIFIED.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/22/06
|
 
Then why
jragosta | 10/22/06
|
  
They both love M$
DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
|
   
Hehe, funny you should say that!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
    
Mac zealots this week/day, Linux zealots the next...
nomorems | 10/23/06
|
    
Lack of reading comprehension
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
  
At no time have I
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/23/06
|
   
99% of the time?
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
 
Children and morons...
Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
|
  
ROTFLMAO
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
  
ohh...another MS only guy defending his brother...
nomorems | 10/23/06
|
   
bleech!! if you want to...
Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
|
 
So?
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
 
Oh you big silly...
Michael Kelly | 10/23/06
|
 
You're right.!
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Message has been deleted.
sigmaman1 | 10/22/06
|

George does that...
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
LMAO
richvball44 | 10/22/06
|
Heaven forbid a member of the "press"
Robert Crocker | 10/22/06
|

ROTFLMAO
jragosta | 10/22/06
|
 
More sad than funny
tic swayback | 10/22/06
|
  
Maybe
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
   
Ignorance is not the problem...
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
    
I agree
jragosta | 10/23/06
|

Press? - maybe if you think Andy Rooney is the press.
Jim888 | 10/23/06
|
 
Busted!
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
 
Well stated...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Very Ugly
xstep | 10/22/06
|
Microsoft apologetics
rbethell | 10/22/06
|

Too kind
jragosta | 10/22/06
|

And what specific points did I make would you find objectionable?
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
 
To begin with one of your Firefox flaws is flaw in Apple's Java
Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
|
  
Hey, we're going by Secunia right?
georgeou | 10/22/06
|
   
Well...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
Those are unpatched issues
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
 
Pot, Kettle, Black
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
Oh! The Indignation!
nizuse | 10/22/06
|

you, sir, are an ignorant
pcustodio | 10/23/06
|
 
Geez
ebrke | 10/23/06
|
 
Ignorance Can Be Corrected
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
 
You too!?
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Belaboring the obvious.
Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
|

Right!
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
 
If a reporter wants to write: ...
Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
|
hope you have your flame suit on
donnguyen1 | 10/22/06
|
Media Bias
samcurry | 10/23/06
|
Why can't the Media be bias?
nucrash | 10/23/06
|

Hey! I thought our US Media is.....
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
 
Sarcasm Noted...
nucrash | 10/23/06
|
  
Some recently have
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
   
Good point.
John Zern | 10/23/06
|
    
Accuracy is key
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
  
I am sure that I could
drew1313 | 10/23/06
|
 
It never was
osreinstall | 10/23/06
|
  
Ah, good old Citizen Kane
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
(Most) Firefox users are flawed
pcustodio | 10/23/06
|

I smell resentment
petercw | 10/23/06
|
 
I smell resentment
samcurry | 10/23/06
|
  
paying the price
petercw | 10/23/06
|
  
They did: its called
drew1313 | 10/23/06
|

Sound's Like
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|

perhaps you should change your title
bluestreak_z | 10/23/06
|
Microsoft sets higher standards
duclod | 10/23/06
|

What was it Spiderman said....
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
 
Wasn't Spiderman that said it originally
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
 
You're close
John Zern | 10/23/06
|
  
Technically...
rapson | 10/23/06
|
   
my son
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
    
It doesn't take...
rapson | 10/23/06
|
     
Not this parent
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
    
Shelendra, please take this with the humor intended...
Linux User 147560 | 10/23/06
|
     
cute
Shelendrea | 10/24/06
|

That's for the reader to decide, not the media
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
 
Truth?
duclod | 10/23/06
|
  
Calling a minor problem serious is not the truth
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Minor Problem?
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
    
Only problem is that we're not talking about a snake here
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
2 years?
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
 
That's for the reader to decide, not the media
Rick_K | 10/23/06
|
  
Because it really was orchestrated
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Message has been deleted.
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
Thanks George
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
I do not moderate these forums
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Thank you for having message deleted
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
I DO NOT MODERATE THESE FORUMS
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Strange - why deleted?
nizuse | 10/23/06
|
    
I DO NOT MODERATE THESE FORUMS
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Other than your say so...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
Hey no one is forcing you to believe it
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
That's hardly the impression you give
zkiwi | 10/24/06
|
     
You 'whitnessed' it?
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
if you used the spellcheck extension for firefox you could actually spell
nunyodambizness01@... | 10/29/06
|
    
In fact,
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
    
How do you know?
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
   
You're worthless
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
    
Get it to your head that I do not moderate these forums
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
My message was clean
zkiwi | 10/24/06
|
     
Same with mine
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
    
Your thinking...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
 
Absolutely!
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
Karma
tekspek1 | 10/23/06
|

who said that?
petercw | 10/23/06
|
 
Apologies
tekspek1 | 10/23/06
|
So what...
Patrick Jones | 10/23/06
|

new way to truth
petercw | 10/23/06
|

Isn't that how Windows was written/coded...
MacCanuck | 10/23/06
|
 
Maybe it was!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
  
No, it's more like...
MacCanuck | 10/23/06
|
   
No, but look at the iPod
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
    
Too simplistic a world view
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
     
Tells you something
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Still says nothing about quality
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
     
Finally a good post from you tic!!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
tic and jragosta: my point perfectly proven
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Oddly enough
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
zkiwi, you ARE odd!!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
It's difficult to get a message across to you
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
Consumers are dumb
voska | 10/24/06
|
    
Nice try but...
MacCanuck | 10/23/06
|
     
What OS do you use?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Oops, sorry about the formatting
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
TrueZealot...
MacCanuck | 10/24/06
|
    
I don't own one..
drew1313 | 10/23/06
|
    
Logic 101
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
     
Logic 201
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
'NonZealot'
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
    
Windows is a different story
voska | 10/24/06
|
And you say THEY show bias?
Shelendrea | 10/23/06
|
Just more MS bashing
alan@... | 10/23/06
|

Exactly right but don't forget the ones who switched
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
 
Too true
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
  
Going off on OSX??
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
My bad
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
   
Care to explain...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
Port it?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Sounds like you're whining
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
Of course he's whining
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
     
Again zkiwi, unable to argue??
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Why bag on Apple...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
Okay zkiwi, I'll bag on Dell too!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
No
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
   
Sure, OS X...
mustang_z | 10/27/06
|
    
Well, gee
jragosta | 10/27/06
|
 
Why? Because many are still affected
MacCanuck | 10/23/06
|
  
******* in a knot!!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
Glad you understand
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
    
I do tic, I do
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Lock outs
tic swayback | 10/23/06
|
     
Look outs!
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
spend 30 seconds and secure Windows against the "bad guys"
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
  
Bravo!
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
 
quit whining about products you will never... use!
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
  
My first temptation...
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
Thank You!
Ole Man | 10/24/06
|
 
Obviously living in under a rock aren't you?
voska | 10/24/06
|

Um, actually
ebrke | 10/23/06
|

BRAVO!
xxn1927 | 10/23/06
|

MS is good
gigogogogown | 10/28/06
|
Editorial comment? News? or both?
wmlundine | 10/23/06
|
MS deserves it
defenderofasgard | 10/23/06
|
This, from the most biased Blogger on the site!
linux for me | 10/23/06
|

Maybe so but...
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
 
NonZealot
samcurry | 10/23/06
|
  
Good question
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
   
Good question
samcurry | 10/23/06
|
   
Just curious
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
    
Huh?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Simple
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
     
jragosta: Why do you hate Apple so much?
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
You're still not understanding what a monopoly is?
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
zkiwi: monopoly is...
NonZealot | 10/23/06
|
     
Really?
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
'NonZealot' is delusional
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
jragosta: I apologize for the misunderstanding
NonZealot | 10/24/06
|
     
Just like George
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
I never asked you to be accountable
NonZealot | 10/24/06
|
George, you wouldn't know how to report...
BeGoneFool | 10/23/06
|
What Secunia has to say on the matter
mhenriday | 10/23/06
|

Because you didn't break it down
georgeou | 10/23/06
|

Firefox 2 flaw? I've got one for ya.
toadlife | 10/24/06
|
 
OUCH! You should have warned me!
georgeou | 10/24/06
|
  
Ok, that locked up and crashed IE7 as well
georgeou | 10/24/06
|
   
Of course it did...
bportlock | 10/24/06
|
    
Windows thing? Sorry, you are wrong
NonZealot | 10/24/06
|
    
Oh really?
toadlife | 10/24/06
|
    
On that page
toadlife | 10/24/06
|
   
(nt)I tried it on IE6 and it locked up for a minute or two but didn't crash
toadlife | 10/24/06
|
   
It crashed my SeaMonkey
osreinstall | 10/24/06
|
 
That's not right
Etch44 | 10/25/06
|
are most *nix fanboys having the IQ of a pigeon, seems that way
zzz1234567890 | 10/23/06
|

Better Than Braindead
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|

Sorry but it has to be repeated until you understand it
barstewards | 10/23/06
|
 
Be Careful What You Say
Ole Man | 10/23/06
|
"Unpatched" Firefox Flaws
SecurityGeek_z | 10/23/06
|

Again, it's not flawed code in IE
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
 
Never used that assertion
SecurityGeek_z | 10/23/06
|
  
That's the lie I'm talking about
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
Minor issue?
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
    
It's not an IE6 or IE7 flaw, it's a minor Outlook Express flaw
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
And yet...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
     
You contradicted yourself in a single sentence
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
     
Literacy skills George
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
   
Choose your words carefully...
SecurityGeek_z | 10/27/06
|
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...
glocks out | 10/23/06
|
Just get these two things and stop working so hard.
systemx | 10/23/06
|

So you think insulting Windows users will get them to come to your cause?
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
 
Well...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
  
If you view calling Apple out on bad things they do as an insult to you,
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
   
And yet...
zkiwi | 10/23/06
|
   
If only...
jragosta | 10/23/06
|
  
Ouch!
nizuse | 10/23/06
|
   
the problem is...
doh123 | 10/24/06
|
oh waaaaaah
spatula6 | 10/23/06
|
Browser Bashing usless
xstep | 10/23/06
|

I've had page rendering problems with Opera
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
Highest Recommendation
loudstupidjerk@... | 10/23/06
|

I have an Edsel I'd like to sell you.... (nt)
Castanet | 10/23/06
|
I'm Just Saying
DannyO_0x98 | 10/23/06
|

Uh, did you not get an Apple Airport update?
georgeou | 10/23/06
|
 
Apple has given full credit to those responsible
tic swayback | 10/24/06
|
 
No credit to give
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
.... so...to summarise....
Castanet | 10/23/06
|

Good summary, but one point
georgeou | 10/23/06
|

Additional responses
georgeou | 10/24/06
|

Missing something
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
Go Georgie! Go Georgie!
DOReynolds | 10/24/06
|
Here we go again...
Branflake | 10/24/06
|
King of the Hill
Sleuth | 10/24/06
|

Mistplaced thanks
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
 
No it isn't
osreinstall | 10/24/06
|
  
Might want to get your facts right
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
   
Baloney
osreinstall | 10/24/06
|
    
ROTFLMAO
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
You are mistaken as usual
osreinstall | 10/24/06
|
     
Let's see
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
     
You are incapable of seeing.
osreinstall | 10/24/06
|
     
Sorry
jragosta | 10/25/06
|
     
You should be.
osreinstall | 10/25/06
|
George....let me take a stab at this.
Laff | 10/24/06
|
zkiwi:
rapson | 10/24/06
|

Oops...
rapson | 10/24/06
|

Why?
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
 
Do you read the same talkbacks?
NonZealot | 10/24/06
|
  
Sure
jragosta | 10/24/06
|
   
I accept your challenge
NonZealot | 10/24/06
|
 
Everyone does...
rapson | 10/24/06
|
Your 2 mozilla examples are very bad...
doh123 | 10/24/06
|
Chicken Little...?
papatator | 10/24/06
|
This blog
ninemillion | 10/25/06
|
Vote On Which Browser You Will Use!
John Westra | 10/27/06
|

Which browser??
ninemillion | 10/27/06
|
Neeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddssss!!!!!!!!!!!
snilkobk | 10/27/06
|
IE7
d.arbib@... | 10/27/06
|
IE7 crashes with Flash9 installed
dt63944 | 10/28/06
|