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You're asking for it...
This post will pull the nuts out of the trees, so get ready.

It's a little ironic that you don't point out any examples in your own organization -- the recent spate of Cnet articles that have spun negatively on news about Microsoft (my favorite, the video review of IE7 that said that tabs were the "biggest" feature in IE7) show that, somehow, it's good business to be biased (or, at least, poorly edited).

I don't get why Microsoft PR doesn't respond more aggressively to these stories. Maybe they should pull a Google and freeze the media out for a year. That seemed to work wonders for them -- with one company anyway...
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You're asking for it...  broper | 10/22/06
I did mention CNET and ZDNet blogs  georgeou | 10/22/06
Well, there are many reasons for bias...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Cumulative Effects  Harry Bardal | 10/22/06
So how about 2 year old unpatched Mozilla flaws?  georgeou | 10/22/06
Are they really unpatched George?  Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
Yes, they are, but not "why" you think...  NetArch. | 10/23/06
Oh really?  April May | 10/23/06
Yet another Microsoft cheerleader.  nomorems | 10/23/06
George needs to read more...  bportlock | 10/22/06
Sorry, but both applied to firefox 1.x series  georgeou | 10/22/06
Both Apply to Mozilla Gecko 1.7 not the current Version 1.8  Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
At least Secunia....  bportlock | 10/22/06
He didn't read SA12403 either as it only effects Macs  Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
What I don't understand....  bportlock | 10/23/06
All data must confirm pre-conceived conclusions  tic swayback | 10/23/06
SA12580 NOT patched  Gungnir | 10/23/06
Sorry George, one of those old flaws was another vendor.  osreinstall | 10/23/06
I am sorry but  D. T. Schmitz | 10/22/06
All I can say is, "wow"  tic swayback | 10/22/06
Funny reaction  georgeou | 10/22/06
Nice excuse George, but I'm not buying it  DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
Yep, that's true  April May | 10/23/06
Reading comprehension 101  jragosta | 10/22/06
Do you know how to read?  tic swayback | 10/22/06
Some other ZDNet bloggers...  Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
Bias is fine  tic swayback | 10/23/06
ANTON!  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
For some reason...  Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
No, Not really  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
Ignore the zealots George  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Better yet...  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Even better yet....  wcb42ad | 10/23/06
Great quote  NonZealot | 10/23/06
"make them look foolish"  Ole Man | 10/23/06
George's point is valid in some ways  tic swayback | 10/23/06
I'm still looking for the problem with IE6  April May | 10/23/06
Journalistic integrity  mhenriday | 10/23/06
He Forgot To Mention  Ole Man | 10/23/06
What?  ju1ce | 10/23/06
Oh, if only...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
POT KETTLE BLACK, George  barstewards | 10/22/06
Let's try and address the actual points  georgeou | 10/22/06
Maybe when you HAVE actual points  jragosta | 10/22/06
And how...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
What?  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
What mindless attack?  barstewards | 10/23/06
Where are the facts!  mustang_z | 10/27/06
George  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Huh?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Is IE7 New?  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Everyone else grasps it, can't you?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
In this case  zkiwi | 10/23/06
You would have IE bloated then?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Care to cite the "significant flaws"?  georgeou | 10/23/06
The OE flaw  zkiwi | 10/23/06
What part of the word "minor" do you not understand?  georgeou | 10/23/06
New code should not include bad old code  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Again, it does not include OE code  georgeou | 10/23/06
Because...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Let the consumer decide...  techotter@... | 10/31/06
Exactly what I was thinking! happy NT  IronCladChicken | 10/24/06
Flaws in _____  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/22/06
You should not confuse OE with Outlook  georgeou | 10/22/06
George, if it's an OE function  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/22/06
It's code in OE and it's easily verifiable after the patch  georgeou | 10/22/06
George, these people are unbelievable!!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
It's almost like a disease of the mind  georgeou | 10/23/06
Pointing out your bias  jragosta | 10/24/06
Please learn to read  jragosta | 10/24/06
Strawman  tic swayback | 10/24/06
Yagotta B...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Bias well justified  DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
Bias in the press is NEVER JUSTIFIED.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/22/06
Then why  jragosta | 10/22/06
They both love M$  DarthRidiculous | 10/22/06
Hehe, funny you should say that!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Mac zealots this week/day, Linux zealots the next...  nomorems | 10/23/06
Lack of reading comprehension  jragosta | 10/23/06
At no time have I  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/23/06
99% of the time?  jragosta | 10/24/06
Children and morons...  Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
ROTFLMAO  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
ohh...another MS only guy defending his brother...  nomorems | 10/23/06
bleech!! if you want to...  Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
So?  Ole Man | 10/23/06
Oh you big silly...  Michael Kelly | 10/23/06
You're right.!  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Message has been deleted.  sigmaman1 | 10/22/06
George does that...  jragosta | 10/23/06
LMAO  richvball44 | 10/22/06
Heaven forbid a member of the "press"  Robert Crocker | 10/22/06
ROTFLMAO  jragosta | 10/22/06
More sad than funny  tic swayback | 10/22/06
Maybe  jragosta | 10/23/06
Ignorance is not the problem...  tic swayback | 10/23/06
I agree  jragosta | 10/23/06
Press? - maybe if you think Andy Rooney is the press.  Jim888 | 10/23/06
Busted!  Ole Man | 10/23/06
Well stated...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Very Ugly  xstep | 10/22/06
Microsoft apologetics  rbethell | 10/22/06
Too kind  jragosta | 10/22/06
And what specific points did I make would you find objectionable?  georgeou | 10/22/06
To begin with one of your Firefox flaws is flaw in Apple's Java  Edward Meyers | 10/22/06
Hey, we're going by Secunia right?  georgeou | 10/22/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Those are unpatched issues  georgeou | 10/23/06
Pot, Kettle, Black  jragosta | 10/23/06
Oh! The Indignation!  nizuse | 10/22/06
you, sir, are an ignorant  pcustodio | 10/23/06
Geez  ebrke | 10/23/06
Ignorance Can Be Corrected  Ole Man | 10/23/06
You too!?  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Belaboring the obvious.  Anton Philidor | 10/22/06
Right!  Ole Man | 10/23/06
If a reporter wants to write: ...  Anton Philidor | 10/23/06
hope you have your flame suit on  donnguyen1 | 10/22/06
Media Bias  samcurry | 10/23/06
Why can't the Media be bias?  nucrash | 10/23/06
Hey! I thought our US Media is.....  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Sarcasm Noted...  nucrash | 10/23/06
Some recently have  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Good point.  John Zern | 10/23/06
Accuracy is key  tic swayback | 10/23/06
I am sure that I could  drew1313 | 10/23/06
It never was  osreinstall | 10/23/06
Ah, good old Citizen Kane  tic swayback | 10/23/06
(Most) Firefox users are flawed  pcustodio | 10/23/06
I smell resentment  petercw | 10/23/06
I smell resentment  samcurry | 10/23/06
paying the price  petercw | 10/23/06
They did: its called  drew1313 | 10/23/06
Sound's Like  Ole Man | 10/23/06
perhaps you should change your title  bluestreak_z | 10/23/06
Microsoft sets higher standards  duclod | 10/23/06
What was it Spiderman said....  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Wasn't Spiderman that said it originally  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
You're close  John Zern | 10/23/06
Technically...  rapson | 10/23/06
my son  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
It doesn't take...  rapson | 10/23/06
Not this parent  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
Shelendra, please take this with the humor intended...  Linux User 147560 | 10/23/06
cute  Shelendrea | 10/24/06
That's for the reader to decide, not the media  georgeou | 10/23/06
Truth?  duclod | 10/23/06
Calling a minor problem serious is not the truth  georgeou | 10/23/06
Minor Problem?  Ole Man | 10/23/06
Only problem is that we're not talking about a snake here  georgeou | 10/23/06
2 years?  jragosta | 10/23/06
That's for the reader to decide, not the media  Rick_K | 10/23/06
Because it really was orchestrated  georgeou | 10/23/06
Message has been deleted.  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Thanks George  zkiwi | 10/23/06
I do not moderate these forums  georgeou | 10/23/06
Thank you for having message deleted  zkiwi | 10/23/06
I DO NOT MODERATE THESE FORUMS  georgeou | 10/23/06
Strange - why deleted?  nizuse | 10/23/06
I DO NOT MODERATE THESE FORUMS  georgeou | 10/23/06
Other than your say so...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Hey no one is forcing you to believe it  georgeou | 10/23/06
That's hardly the impression you give  zkiwi | 10/24/06
You 'whitnessed' it?  jragosta | 10/24/06
if you used the spellcheck extension for firefox you could actually spell  nunyodambizness01@... | 10/29/06
In fact,  jragosta | 10/24/06
How do you know?  mustang_z | 10/27/06
You're worthless  jragosta | 10/23/06
Get it to your head that I do not moderate these forums  georgeou | 10/23/06
My message was clean  zkiwi | 10/24/06
Same with mine  jragosta | 10/24/06
Your thinking...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Absolutely!  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Karma  tekspek1 | 10/23/06
who said that?  petercw | 10/23/06
Apologies  tekspek1 | 10/23/06
So what...  Patrick Jones | 10/23/06
new way to truth  petercw | 10/23/06
Isn't that how Windows was written/coded...  MacCanuck | 10/23/06
Maybe it was!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
No, it's more like...  MacCanuck | 10/23/06
No, but look at the iPod  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Too simplistic a world view  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Tells you something  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Still says nothing about quality  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Finally a good post from you tic!!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
tic and jragosta: my point perfectly proven  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Oddly enough  zkiwi | 10/23/06
zkiwi, you ARE odd!!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
It's difficult to get a message across to you  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Consumers are dumb  voska | 10/24/06
Nice try but...  MacCanuck | 10/23/06
What OS do you use?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Oops, sorry about the formatting  NonZealot | 10/23/06
TrueZealot...  MacCanuck | 10/24/06
I don't own one..  drew1313 | 10/23/06
Logic 101  jragosta | 10/23/06
Logic 201  NonZealot | 10/23/06
'NonZealot'  jragosta | 10/23/06
Windows is a different story  voska | 10/24/06
And you say THEY show bias?  Shelendrea | 10/23/06
Just more MS bashing  alan@... | 10/23/06
Exactly right but don't forget the ones who switched  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Too true  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Going off on OSX??  NonZealot | 10/23/06
My bad  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Care to explain...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Port it?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Sounds like you're whining  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Of course he's whining  jragosta | 10/23/06
Again zkiwi, unable to argue??  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Why bag on Apple...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Okay zkiwi, I'll bag on Dell too!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
No  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Sure, OS X...  mustang_z | 10/27/06
Well, gee  jragosta | 10/27/06
Why? Because many are still affected  MacCanuck | 10/23/06
******* in a knot!!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Glad you understand  tic swayback | 10/23/06
I do tic, I do  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Lock outs  tic swayback | 10/23/06
Look outs!  NonZealot | 10/23/06
spend 30 seconds and secure Windows against the "bad guys"  Ole Man | 10/23/06
Bravo!  Ole Man | 10/23/06
quit whining about products you will never... use!  Ole Man | 10/23/06
My first temptation...  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Thank You!  Ole Man | 10/24/06
Obviously living in under a rock aren't you?  voska | 10/24/06
Um, actually  ebrke | 10/23/06
BRAVO!  xxn1927 | 10/23/06
MS is good  gigogogogown | 10/28/06
Editorial comment? News? or both?  wmlundine | 10/23/06
MS deserves it  defenderofasgard | 10/23/06
This, from the most biased Blogger on the site!  linux for me | 10/23/06
Maybe so but...  NonZealot | 10/23/06
NonZealot  samcurry | 10/23/06
Good question  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Good question  samcurry | 10/23/06
Just curious  jragosta | 10/23/06
Huh?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Simple  jragosta | 10/23/06
jragosta: Why do you hate Apple so much?  NonZealot | 10/23/06
You're still not understanding what a monopoly is?  zkiwi | 10/23/06
zkiwi: monopoly is...  NonZealot | 10/23/06
Really?  zkiwi | 10/23/06
'NonZealot' is delusional  jragosta | 10/24/06
jragosta: I apologize for the misunderstanding  NonZealot | 10/24/06
Just like George  jragosta | 10/24/06
I never asked you to be accountable  NonZealot | 10/24/06
George, you wouldn't know how to report...  BeGoneFool | 10/23/06
What Secunia has to say on the matter  mhenriday | 10/23/06
Because you didn't break it down  georgeou | 10/23/06
Firefox 2 flaw? I've got one for ya.  toadlife | 10/24/06
OUCH! You should have warned me!  georgeou | 10/24/06
Ok, that locked up and crashed IE7 as well  georgeou | 10/24/06
Of course it did...  bportlock | 10/24/06
Windows thing? Sorry, you are wrong  NonZealot | 10/24/06
Oh really?  toadlife | 10/24/06
On that page  toadlife | 10/24/06
(nt)I tried it on IE6 and it locked up for a minute or two but didn't crash  toadlife | 10/24/06
It crashed my SeaMonkey  osreinstall | 10/24/06
That's not right  Etch44 | 10/25/06
are most *nix fanboys having the IQ of a pigeon, seems that way  zzz1234567890 | 10/23/06
Better Than Braindead  Ole Man | 10/23/06
Sorry but it has to be repeated until you understand it  barstewards | 10/23/06
Be Careful What You Say  Ole Man | 10/23/06
"Unpatched" Firefox Flaws  SecurityGeek_z | 10/23/06
Again, it's not flawed code in IE  georgeou | 10/23/06
Never used that assertion  SecurityGeek_z | 10/23/06
That's the lie I'm talking about  georgeou | 10/23/06
Minor issue?  zkiwi | 10/23/06
It's not an IE6 or IE7 flaw, it's a minor Outlook Express flaw  georgeou | 10/23/06
And yet...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
You contradicted yourself in a single sentence  georgeou | 10/23/06
Literacy skills George  zkiwi | 10/23/06
Choose your words carefully...  SecurityGeek_z | 10/27/06
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...  glocks out | 10/23/06
Just get these two things and stop working so hard.  systemx | 10/23/06
So you think insulting Windows users will get them to come to your cause?  georgeou | 10/23/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
If you view calling Apple out on bad things they do as an insult to you,  georgeou | 10/23/06
And yet...  zkiwi | 10/23/06
If only...  jragosta | 10/23/06
Ouch!  nizuse | 10/23/06
the problem is...  doh123 | 10/24/06
oh waaaaaah  spatula6 | 10/23/06
Browser Bashing usless  xstep | 10/23/06
I've had page rendering problems with Opera  georgeou | 10/23/06
Highest Recommendation  loudstupidjerk@... | 10/23/06
I have an Edsel I'd like to sell you.... (nt)  Castanet | 10/23/06
I'm Just Saying  DannyO_0x98 | 10/23/06
Uh, did you not get an Apple Airport update?  georgeou | 10/23/06
Apple has given full credit to those responsible  tic swayback | 10/24/06
No credit to give  jragosta | 10/24/06
.... so...to summarise....  Castanet | 10/23/06
Good summary, but one point  georgeou | 10/23/06
Additional responses  georgeou | 10/24/06
Missing something  jragosta | 10/24/06
Go Georgie! Go Georgie!  DOReynolds | 10/24/06
Here we go again...  Branflake | 10/24/06
King of the Hill  Sleuth | 10/24/06
Mistplaced thanks  jragosta | 10/24/06
No it isn't  osreinstall | 10/24/06
Might want to get your facts right  jragosta | 10/24/06
Baloney  osreinstall | 10/24/06
ROTFLMAO  jragosta | 10/24/06
You are mistaken as usual  osreinstall | 10/24/06
Let's see  jragosta | 10/24/06
You are incapable of seeing.  osreinstall | 10/24/06
Sorry  jragosta | 10/25/06
You should be.  osreinstall | 10/25/06
George....let me take a stab at this.  Laff | 10/24/06
zkiwi:  rapson | 10/24/06
Oops...  rapson | 10/24/06
Why?  jragosta | 10/24/06
Do you read the same talkbacks?  NonZealot | 10/24/06
Sure  jragosta | 10/24/06
I accept your challenge  NonZealot | 10/24/06
Everyone does...  rapson | 10/24/06
Your 2 mozilla examples are very bad...  doh123 | 10/24/06
Chicken Little...?  papatator | 10/24/06
This blog  ninemillion | 10/25/06
Vote On Which Browser You Will Use!  John Westra | 10/27/06
Which browser??  ninemillion | 10/27/06
Neeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddssss!!!!!!!!!!!  snilkobk | 10/27/06
IE7  d.arbib@... | 10/27/06
IE7 crashes with Flash9 installed  dt63944 | 10/28/06

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