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Thanks George
Now who am I going to believe? Spin doctors and suits or Johnny Cache? Hmm, well Johnny doesn't look that professional without a suit and tie and in fact he looks a bit radical - an angry young man in fact.

Hmm

Two demo third party card flaw
Rumour of Apple flaws
Apple admits to flaws and fixes them
Apple and SecureWorks prevent original two telling all.

Hmm

No, it must be that a large multinational company is completely right, the two who demoed are wrong and unprofessional and George Ou is Satan's spawn - the illegitimate son of the Anti-Christ Bill Gates. Oh and PR people for large organisations are totally ethical and honest.

Glad I cleared that up, I was getting worried wink
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Thanks George  TonyMcS | 10/02/06
I wanted to post a lot more, but was asked not to  georgeou | 10/02/06
Yeah, thanks George!  gskiii | 10/02/06
Given the choice between QT and WM  georgeou | 10/02/06
My apology on ESL...  gskiii | 10/02/06
The boy just got his Masters degree  georgeou | 10/02/06
Yet another silly assertion  jragosta | 10/03/06
Quicktime issues  derx | 10/02/06
Ah, my mistake, I meant to say half a dozen  georgeou | 10/02/06
Post it as .swf  Len Rooney | 10/02/06
Flash 8 doesn't work with Linux  georgeou | 10/02/06
Just viewed the video...  gskiii | 10/02/06
Flip4Mac  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Nice try  jragosta | 10/03/06
Most people can't support it  georgeou | 10/03/06
Oh, I forgot  jragosta | 10/04/06
Use a better analogy  NonZealot | 10/02/06
Everyone uses itunes? I do not think so.  Cayble | 10/02/06
Oh, boy  jragosta | 10/02/06
I have proof that Maynor and Ellch are frauds  dgtruckses | 10/02/06
Glad you said that.  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
Hard to believe...  timyu | 10/02/06
Its not. Its Silly childish stuff  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
Exactly.  jragosta | 10/03/06
Isn't parody protected by law?  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Yes tic it is.  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
one exploit or two?  bkwatch | 10/02/06
One or Two indeed...  SheldonW | 10/03/06
yes, thanks. But George thinks there two for the Mac  bkwatch | 10/03/06
Then post what you can...  JoshNorton | 10/03/06
Yes, thanks George  NonZealot | 10/02/06
Not worth defending...  timyu | 10/02/06
Really?  jragosta | 10/03/06
Wrong...  jragosta | 10/03/06
apple blurb  richvball44 | 10/07/06
Angry kid  dragosani | 10/02/06
No of course  TonyMcS | 10/02/06
It doesn't matter?  georgeou | 10/02/06
Yet you smear...  Rick_K | 10/02/06
Show me where I said "Apple lied"  georgeou | 10/02/06
You're raving mad....  jragosta | 10/02/06
We'll drag this up one more time  Rick_K | 10/02/06
You do not know how to read.  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
Sick of this  jragosta | 10/03/06
Really now?  Rick_K | 10/03/06
Why not parse George's comments?  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Hardly worth while to parse George?s comments when?  DavidBurke | 10/04/06
Absolutely  varun_prasad@... | 10/04/06
??  richvball44 | 10/07/06
Ah, the old double standard  tic swayback | 10/03/06
You are the Troll  dragosani | 10/04/06
Proof is in what he said.  Rick_K | 10/02/06
Do you have hearing problems?  georgeou | 10/02/06
almost right  richvball44 | 10/07/06
You act like a child.  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
Read the blog  jragosta | 10/03/06
Pot Kettle Black?  Rick_K | 10/03/06
missing something  richvball44 | 10/07/06
NBM=Nothing But Microsoft  V-Train | 10/07/06
d'oh!  richvball44 | 10/07/06
A joke  samcurry | 10/02/06
Wrong, I wrote it! ( nudge nudge wink wink )  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
That about sums it up  georgeou | 10/03/06
Both might be wrong  varun_prasad@... | 10/04/06
unless, of course,  JetJaguar | 10/02/06
Only one thing  jragosta | 10/03/06
hehe you are too funny  samcurry | 10/03/06
Lack of professionalism  dgtruckses | 10/02/06
Same guy that said it was a magic show referring to the thrid party hack  georgeou | 10/02/06
He's still saying it's a magic show  dgtruckses | 10/02/06
Alternate theory  marlinj@... | 10/02/06
No, that's not what happened  georgeou | 10/02/06
George, you don't know what happened  dgtruckses | 10/03/06
rubbernecking  timyu | 10/02/06
So basically,  JetJaguar | 10/02/06
except for...  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
Well now we have it.  DavidBurke | 10/02/06
You're delusional  jragosta | 10/03/06
I'm delusional...but you agree with me?  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
Maybe ....  jragosta | 10/03/06
You're funny  Robert Crocker | 10/03/06
Not exactly what I said, but close enough.  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
for a logic specialist you sure suck at logic...  doctorSpoc | 10/04/06
And you were questioning the reading ability of others?  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Thanks for saying what I just said!  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
No anger here  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Let me scream it at the top of my lungs!!!!  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
Changing your tune  jragosta | 10/03/06
Show me. You are way way out of your league  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
How about this:  jragosta | 10/04/06
Changing your tune then?  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Wrong wrong wrong wrong  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
Wow, you should work for Apple!  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Some explanation obout that tic...  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
That's my queston then..  tic swayback | 10/03/06
No tic, I do not see it as the same thing  DavidBurke | 10/03/06
Today's position  jragosta | 10/04/06
But George has done just that  tic swayback | 10/04/06
"implying"  JetJaguar | 10/03/06
I'm just using David Burke Logic  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Not quite  jragosta | 10/04/06
just curious  richvball44 | 10/07/06
Legal profession  jragosta | 10/07/06
No_Axe==DavidBurke???  barstewards | 10/03/06
Cayble = David Burke  dgtruckses | 10/03/06
Sadly,  jragosta | 10/03/06
That's what happens when...  gskiii | 10/03/06
Agreed, but some corrections  varun_prasad@... | 10/03/06
What he said  dgtruckses | 10/03/06
Hard to believe the fanboism of Mac fans on this site  toadlife | 10/02/06
That's it. There's your proof.  GW Mahoney | 10/02/06
umm...  JetJaguar | 10/02/06
"Full of it"  toadlife | 10/02/06
Not quite.  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
Obvious?  jragosta | 10/03/06
Thanks  tic swayback | 10/03/06
No problem!  toadlife | 10/03/06
Fit in with George  jragosta | 10/03/06
not really  richvball44 | 10/07/06
True, but  jragosta | 10/07/06
Stay tuned  arkitty | 10/02/06
Give the blogger a great big cigar.  Cayble | 10/03/06
It fits the "facts"  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
More likely  jragosta | 10/03/06
makes some sense. why did Apple screw up?  bkwatch | 10/03/06
Developer disconnect  arkitty | 10/03/06
great point; isn't Apple code open source  bkwatch | 10/03/06
Many elements are  arkitty | 10/03/06
Doesn't fit the facts  jragosta | 10/04/06
Um wrong  arkitty | 10/04/06
Oh it's even stranger than that  georgeou | 10/04/06
Easy to believe if you have common sense  V-Train | 10/04/06
More like you want to believe  georgeou | 10/04/06
Pathetic analogy  V-Train | 10/04/06
Exactly...  SheldonW | 10/04/06
On Ou's IE analogy...  SheldonW | 10/04/06
uh can't think of a subject heading, however  richvball44 | 10/07/06
Evidence?  jragosta | 10/05/06
Simple answer  Rick_K | 10/05/06
Evidence??  arkitty | 10/05/06
Except for one thing  jragosta | 10/06/06
Wrong again  arkitty | 10/06/06
So?  jragosta | 10/07/06
You're delusional  arkitty | 10/07/06
And why exactly is the burden on Apple?  V-Train | 10/08/06
Bias hah!  arkitty | 10/08/06
A whole lot of worthless blather, and you still didn't answer my question  V-Train | 10/08/06
Good lord can you read at all?  arkitty | 10/08/06
The only problem...  jragosta | 10/08/06
Nice try changing the subject  arkitty | 10/08/06
Not changing the subject  jragosta | 10/09/06
You still refuse to read and comprehend  arkitty | 10/09/06
Technical Details  SheldonW | 10/09/06
SheldonW joins the growing list of morons  arkitty | 10/10/06
Name Calling...  SheldonW | 10/10/06
Don't waste your time, Sheldon  V-Train | 10/10/06
Face value?  arkitty | 10/10/06
Slander, anyone?  JetJaguar | 10/02/06
Ellch's response was revealing  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
why wasn't Ellch in the first video  bkwatch | 10/03/06
My theory, for the record.  SheldonW | 10/03/06
I'm going to bookmark this  georgeou | 10/03/06
Bookmark it for accuracy?  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
Bravo!  rwahrens1952 | 10/03/06
Is Ellch backtracking?  GW Mahoney | 10/03/06
poor poor david  samcurry | 10/03/06
Text of the speech  tic swayback | 10/03/06
Yep  jragosta | 10/03/06
the Wrath of Apple  JetJaguar | 10/03/06
Big difference  tic swayback | 10/03/06
So?  jragosta | 10/03/06
Grain of Salt required at Security Conferences  SheldonW | 10/03/06
That has nothing to do with this  georgeou | 10/03/06
Looks like the point of the post shot right over your head  barstewards | 10/03/06
Your point is....  jragosta | 10/03/06
No,  gskiii | 10/03/06
Just the reporters  bkwatch | 10/03/06
Parsong Ellch  varun_prasad@... | 10/03/06
I meant parsing...  varun_prasad@... | 10/03/06
hmmmm i smell something brewing with krebbs  samcurry | 10/03/06
Hmmm  varun_prasad@... | 10/03/06
If Microsoft treated people this way  Mark Miller | 10/03/06
Okay, what have you heard?  gskiii | 10/04/06
oops!  gskiii | 10/04/06
Watch the video  Mark Miller | 10/07/06
Wireless hoax - probably; Disclosure hoax - yes!  dgtruckses | 10/05/06

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