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Yes, we're all shocked
The great reveal, promised to us for months now has, once again, been postponed. I'm so surprised.

George, why are you so adamant about blaming all of this on Apple? Apple has publicly answered all of your questions. The only ones I see dodging and obfuscating is SecureWorks.

---As David Burke points out, Apple continued to request more information from someone they're implying is an idiot and even started an internal audit on account of what they're calling irrelevant information.---

Sigh. Guess you didn't read the Talkbacks where this was torn to shreds. Let's say you own a software company and someone comes to you with an absurd claim about the security of your software. While you know it's absurd, wouldn't you go ahead an ask them for proof anyway, just in case? Wouldn't that be the prudent thing to do?

Enough already. Feel free to write another 10 columns of baseless accusations with no proof on this subject, as it seems to be your niche at ZDNet.
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Yes, we're all shocked  tic swayback | 09/29/06
Read the part about CERT  georgeou | 09/29/06
CERT and Michael Lynn are not the same  bkwatch | 09/29/06
I read it. So what.  tic swayback | 09/29/06
So what?  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Here's a gem from CERT I won't mind seeing again...  GW Mahoney | 09/30/06
That won't work  jragosta | 09/30/06
So?  jragosta | 09/30/06
exactly  Arm A. Geddon | 09/29/06
George it is your credibility at Stake  bkwatch | 09/29/06
Why don't you stop breaking copyright law  georgeou | 09/29/06
sorry, not me  bkwatch | 09/29/06
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=maynor&search=Search  DavidBurke | 09/29/06
Thank you -- removed  bkwatch | 09/29/06
So, go and sue him then  zkiwi | 09/29/06
removed  bkwatch | 09/29/06
Oh, ah well...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
sure,  JetJaguar | 09/29/06
Well, it would have meant  zkiwi | 09/29/06
look at it from George's view  bkwatch | 09/30/06
Trolls?  jragosta | 09/30/06
You got that right  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
Just aping the master  tic swayback | 09/30/06
That's the spirit!  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
Sigh. Why so one-sided?  tic swayback | 10/01/06
Does it help to have the links?  GW Mahoney | 09/30/06
Better question  jragosta | 09/30/06
Who gave you permission?  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 10/01/06
Ou, where is YOUR evidence?  dgtruckses | 09/29/06
it's really no use asking George because he either...  Arm A. Geddon | 09/29/06
your last couple of blogs sure sound like a smear campaign...  Arm A. Geddon | 09/29/06
George_Ou had his time for vindication .  Intellihence | 09/29/06
...and now he has his time for vacation.  dgtruckses | 09/29/06
Have a good time in San Diego  JetJaguar | 09/29/06
Using Burke Logic...  10k2006 | 09/29/06
Waiting for George's apology  tic swayback | 09/29/06
when the matter's resolved,  JetJaguar | 09/29/06
At this stage, there is already plenty to apologize for...  10k2006 | 09/29/06
Never, then  jragosta | 09/30/06
Great point  jragosta | 09/30/06
Ba..  D. T. Schmitz | 09/29/06
Why would Apple...  arkitty | 09/29/06
SecureWorks is the one preventing Maynor from speaking  bkwatch | 09/29/06
That's damage control  rmac897 | 09/30/06
The VIPER is coming!!!  Robert Crocker | 09/29/06
Maybe....  jragosta | 09/30/06
Don't be too quick to gloat...  Gankaku | 09/29/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Good lord. Wake up. Please, are you that far out?  DavidBurke | 09/30/06
rhe actual statement is  piet jansen | 09/30/06
Incorrect translation. Stick to what you know about.  DavidBurke | 09/30/06
but it seemed funny when i thought of it  IkBen | 09/30/06
Uninterested in microscopic examination of the statements  timyu | 10/01/06
what I think happend (pure speculation)  piet jansen | 09/30/06
that would make sense  rmac897 | 09/30/06
I am blinded by jealousy of Mac users?  DavidBurke | 09/30/06
A Rant to David Burke.  SheldonW | 10/01/06
Attack of the Strawmen  GW Mahoney | 09/30/06
Nice post  dgtruckses | 09/30/06
Apple developers  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
It's called PR for a reason.  SheldonW | 09/30/06
Thanks for usually seeing some point  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
While you are correct...  Rick_K | 09/30/06
Lots of words  zkiwi | 09/30/06
It's not vindication  tic swayback | 09/30/06
We can only hope...  Rick_K | 09/30/06
Come on, Tic  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
Impugning Apple's character  tic swayback | 09/30/06
Do you have a point?  jragosta | 09/30/06
Better be careful what you are implying.  DavidBurke | 09/30/06
For a 'legal professional'......  jragosta | 10/01/06
This is getting silly.  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Nice try  jragosta | 10/01/06
Such As?  1macgeek | 10/01/06
Let me clarify;  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Clearly you are NOT a legal professional  V-Train | 10/01/06
Wrong mvora  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Blah blah blah  V-Train | 10/01/06
just babbling,  JetJaguar | 10/01/06
Libel? For what?  georgeou | 09/30/06
You don't know what the truth is  V-Train | 10/01/06
The truth?  jragosta | 10/01/06
For calling Lynn Fox a liar, repeatedly  tic swayback | 10/01/06
please provide quote  georgeou | 10/01/06
Do ZDNet's archives go back that far?  tic swayback | 10/01/06
From this point on Tic  georgeou | 10/01/06
Lame George  Robert Crocker | 10/02/06
Nice double standard  tic swayback | 10/02/06
Trolls?  jragosta | 10/02/06
From this point on Ou  timyu | 10/02/06
Be Careful  D. T. Schmitz | 10/01/06
Not all bad. We got some good information today.  GW Mahoney | 09/30/06
But...  zkiwi | 09/30/06
maybe they did approach others  piet jansen | 09/30/06
Aren't they?  Rick_K | 09/30/06
Ok then...  zkiwi | 09/30/06
"Ou"rchestrated assault  dgtruckses | 09/30/06
re: "Ou"rchestrated assault  barstewards | 09/30/06
george just did tell us  bkwatch | 10/01/06
Ellch's remarks at Toorcon  GW Mahoney | 09/30/06
Who's Ellch's master?  dgtruckses | 09/30/06
Ellchs looking for work  DavidBurke | 09/30/06
He already rocked the boat  dgtruckses | 09/30/06
David, really?  SheldonW | 09/30/06
I'm Sorry. He says hes looking for work. Not my opinion. Just the facts.  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Read my post again.  SheldonW | 10/01/06
Ellch deserves some credit  GW Mahoney | 10/01/06
You are overstating my position  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Liar?  jragosta | 10/01/06
Nothing there  jragosta | 10/01/06
Remarks  jragosta | 10/01/06
But seriously, folks  JetJaguar | 09/30/06
A very important question  rmac897 | 10/01/06
I accept your theory.  SheldonW | 10/01/06
I didn't say they faked it  JetJaguar | 10/01/06
JetJaguar exposed  GW Mahoney | 10/01/06
JetJaguar is happily married  JetJaguar | 10/01/06
JetJaguar - check this out  dgtruckses | 10/01/06
I apologize.  SheldonW | 10/01/06
By your own definition of envy;  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Don't stereotype us!  tic swayback | 10/01/06
Ha! Good one tic!  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Credit where credit is due?  Gankaku | 10/01/06
You got your facts wrong  georgeou | 10/01/06
What's stopping Ellch?  dgtruckses | 10/01/06
His friendship  georgeou | 10/01/06
repercussions? what repercussions?  bkwatch | 10/01/06
BS Distributor  1macgeek | 10/02/06
Look forward to proof  Gankaku | 10/01/06
Few responses  georgeou | 10/01/06
Logic  jragosta | 10/01/06
Stop the obfuscation  ARW3A | 10/01/06
Calling Lynn Fox a liar again?  tic swayback | 10/01/06
You are a liar, George  V-Train | 10/01/06
Problems with basic reasoning I see  georgeou | 10/01/06
Pot, Kettle, Black?  Robert Crocker | 10/02/06
So....  jragosta | 10/02/06
The Difference?  1macgeek | 10/03/06
so Ellch is out of the loop  bkwatch | 10/04/06
So,...  jragosta | 10/04/06
Still looking for that summary, George...  gskiii | 10/02/06
I changed my mind, you're not going to get it today  georgeou | 10/02/06
Yet another lousy excuse  jragosta | 10/02/06
Crud!  tic swayback | 10/02/06
Yeah, Right  1macgeek | 10/03/06
Put up or SHUT UP  V-Train | 10/03/06
sued by whom?  bkwatch | 10/04/06
Apple Press Release  ARW3A | 10/01/06
Press release issued by SecureWorks, true.  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Why not parse that press release  tic swayback | 10/02/06
Apple and SecureWorks both say...  DavidBurke | 10/06/06
What about YOU, George?  1macgeek | 10/01/06
???  richvball44 | 10/01/06
A couple days  jragosta | 10/01/06
The show must go on...  SheldonW | 10/01/06
Apple virus is very old story now  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Confused, again?  jragosta | 10/01/06
http://www.itweek.co.uk/vnunet/news/2150477/apple-osx-gets-first-virus  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
You lose  jragosta | 10/02/06
http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Not a virus  jragosta | 10/02/06
Deny Deny Deny.  DavidBurke | 10/01/06
Details, details  GW Mahoney | 10/02/06
wouldn't pursue this one, burke  timyu | 10/02/06
You are a misinformed liar of the worst kind  DavidBurke | 10/06/06
Were to talking to yourself?  V-Train | 10/06/06
Typo - meant "Were you talking to yourself"  V-Train | 10/06/06
MIsinformed liar...  jragosta | 10/07/06
OK, one last time jragosta. With feeling.  DavidBurke | 10/23/06
Overwhelming legal argument  jragosta | 10/06/06
Sorry  jragosta | 10/06/06
checkmate!  thelemite | 10/06/06
not a virus  rwahrens1952 | 10/01/06
More Apple lies.  SheldonW | 10/01/06
Another clueless MacBasher  jragosta | 10/02/06
I think  Rick_K | 10/02/06
Sorry  jragosta | 10/02/06
In that aspect  Rick_K | 10/04/06
Ellch and Ou are unprofessional  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 10/01/06
That was a misquote  georgeou | 10/01/06
??  richvball44 | 10/01/06
He said in a few days.  Rick_K | 10/01/06
How lame.  Rick_K | 10/01/06
I'm saying he missed a word  georgeou | 10/01/06
Were you there personally?  Rick_K | 10/02/06
Right.  jragosta | 10/01/06
A misquote?  ARW3A | 10/01/06
Added the word "character" back to the quote...  SheldonW | 10/01/06
Doesn't matter really...  GW Mahoney | 10/02/06
PLEASE learn to read  jragosta | 10/02/06
Was it really vindictiveness?  tic swayback | 10/02/06
This story is officially over?!  GW Mahoney | 10/02/06

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