thanks for following up on this
zzz1234567890 | 09/23/06
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When did that happen?
1macgeek | 09/23/06
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Much Ado About Nothing
D. T. Schmitz | 09/23/06
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learn to read
wacho | 09/26/06
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Still a Hoax
1macgeek | 09/23/06
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Same old claims, still no evidence
tic swayback | 09/23/06
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Egad, reading this talkback only proves...
Confused by religion | 09/23/06
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Cleopatra?
tic swayback | 09/23/06
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Yes, burden on the accuser...
Cayble | 09/23/06
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Backwards again
Robert Crocker | 09/24/06
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Let me know the name of your solicitor...
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Why only hold Apple to this standard?
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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Simple question
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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Baloney
jragosta | 09/26/06
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The reference to Cleopatra is about ....
ShadeTree | 09/25/06
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Thank you!
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Why don't you ask SecureWorks?
GW Mahoney | 09/23/06
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Double Standard
tic swayback | 09/23/06
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SecureWorks did comment to me
georgeou | 09/23/06
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What did they say?
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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I'll tell you what they said!!
NoPumpGas | 09/24/06
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Spinning in a dubious way?
jragosta | 09/26/06
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I know what SecureWorks says, I want to hear it from Apple
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Why is it going to take a week?
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Broadcom
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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No
georgeou | 09/24/06
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we're in agreement about FreeBSD
bkwatch | 09/24/06
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What does "next week" mean?
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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it was "a few days" now "next week"
Monkey_MCSE | 09/25/06
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Not really
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Already done
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Question to Ask at News Conference
AlbatrossPrime | 09/23/06
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I'll correct you now
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Huh?
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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You're missing the basics
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Looking for a river in Egypt are you?
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Let us see where things started and where they have gone.
Cayble | 09/24/06
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That was...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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To zkiwi
Qbt | 09/24/06
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Thanks Cayble! Very accurate timline of events!! NT
bka1959 | 09/25/06
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Probably waiting..
jragosta | 09/26/06
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so you're saying there are 2 hacks?
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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I've only been saying that for nearly 2 months
georgeou | 09/23/06
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OK, so there are 2 exploits....
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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Responses
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Uhh..beg your pardon? In english please?
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Ok then
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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And, yet...
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Perhaps the most jackass comment in written history.
Cayble | 07/20/07
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Uhh..beg your pardon? In english please?
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Verbal Correction, Yes; Proof, no......................
AlbatrossPrime | 09/23/06
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That's precisely what I intend to do
georgeou | 09/24/06
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Looking forward to it
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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One other reason
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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"protect the identity of Apple"
Robert Crocker | 09/24/06
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Why only a private demo?
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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Krebs is the only one public
georgeou | 09/25/06
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What Does That Prove?
1macgeek | 09/25/06
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How frustrated are you?
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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No misundertanding
Robert Crocker | 09/24/06
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Evidence?
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Ludicrous!
scottythebody | 09/27/06
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Its time for Apple to get real transparent
Cayble | 09/23/06
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Hasn't Apple been clear on the subject?
tic swayback | 09/23/06
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Apple has not been clear, that artilce is far from clear
Cayble | 09/23/06
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Again, you're blaming the victim
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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Boy, who needs Apple to prove it? Just say it even.
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Ack
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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Well, I guess we will just have to wait and see wont we?
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Well...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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Maybe Apple has better lawyers and spokespeople
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Apple has no need to prove anything
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Unlike
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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Wrong.
jragosta | 09/26/06
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BSD Flaw: If true, then Maynor/Ellch didn't discover anything
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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? Wrong....not quite yet...
Cayble | 09/23/06
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umm...I don't know what to say
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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SecureWorks and Maynor have a lot more than 2
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Just like there are...
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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well, how many...
bkwatch | 09/24/06
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Bad grammar? Is that the best you have?
Cayble | 09/23/06
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In case you hadn't noticed
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Good lord. You are way out there.
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Ok
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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You clearly are a lawyer/paralegal
jehrler | 09/24/06
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Wrong analysis. Here is where you blew it.
Cayble | 07/20/07
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Get your facts right
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Say, weren't you going to tell all?
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Read the last paragraph
georgeou | 09/23/06
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I did
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Since I've seen the evidence
georgeou | 09/23/06
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Oh...
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Why haven't they released it?
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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umm, Sam dies that
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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Maynor/Ellch fanboy?
dgtruckses | 09/24/06
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The real question is, "do Maynor and Ellch have credibility
KiwiMonster | 09/24/06
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There is a thing called digital time stamping
georgeou | 09/24/06
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Not hard to fake
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Windows fanboys just can't let this go!
Jeffsters | 09/23/06
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It's called...
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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Apple DOES give credit
zott | 09/23/06
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They don't give credit on this one
georgeou | 09/23/06
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OK, so if you're right...
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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It was the irrational response to Krebs that started the fire
georgeou | 09/23/06
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And so far
zkiwi | 09/24/06
|
   
Irrational????
jehrler | 09/24/06
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Gee Mac users can't read as well?
TonyMcS | 09/24/06
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Just as much as...
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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And yet...
zkiwi | 09/23/06
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Another poorly argued, distorted blog entry
timyu | 09/23/06
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You haven't even read the basics yet
georgeou | 09/23/06
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You didn't even read my post yet.
timyu | 09/23/06
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Sure they did
zott | 09/24/06
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Maybe some day, you'll provide some evidence
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Ou == Krebs == Populist Scumbag
Chris_B | 09/23/06
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I hate to disagree...
bkwatch | 09/23/06
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Do this from the start and no mess
dgtruckses | 09/24/06
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yes... where's the beef??
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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We will see.
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Well...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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hey 'buddy'... you completely missed the point...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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Chomp! Chomp! Chomp!
Cayble | 09/24/06
|
   
???
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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Erm...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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You are kidding me right?
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Well...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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"where's the beef?" is an expression...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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More info on "Where's the beef"
Cayble | 09/24/06
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ok... so now that we are on the same page (this is an expression too)...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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Honestly doc_ your out of line.
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Out of line?
zkiwi | 09/24/06
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for real.. is this george or what...???
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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Don't feign knowledge
timyu | 09/25/06
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Want proof? Here.
Cayble | 09/25/06
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that's proof? where's the timestamp? *wink*
timyu | 09/25/06
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Very admirable....
jragosta | 09/26/06
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Beef
SquishyParts | 09/24/06
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Ethical question
tic swayback | 09/24/06
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Hmm?
TonyMcS | 09/24/06
|
   
Wrong?
zkiwi | 09/24/06
|
   
I wish I could know that I was wrong here
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Good question tic, honestly.
Cayble | 09/24/06
|
   
The focus has changed
zkiwi | 09/24/06
|
   
Who says they are going to do the demo at Toorcon
bkwatch | 09/24/06
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For your info?
Cayble | 09/24/06
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demo or no demo? easy question, why hide?
bkwatch | 09/24/06
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bkwatch..you keep asking so I decided to answer...
Cayble | 09/24/06
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Maynor/Ellch are NOT Whistleblowers
bkwatch | 09/25/06
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George has indeed been hung out to dry
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Apple Ethics
arkitty | 09/25/06
|
   
You are making assumptions
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Black is White
TonyMcS | 09/24/06
|

nice logic...???
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
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Its my understanding proof was provided.
Cayble | 09/24/06
|
  
This proof...
zkiwi | 09/24/06
|
   
?
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
    
Well...
zkiwi | 09/25/06
|
  
no proof...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
|
   
Wake up Jackass and smell the coffee
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
    
you'd have a point if...
doctorSpoc | 09/25/06
|
    
Well...
zkiwi | 09/25/06
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Wow
TonyMcS | 09/24/06
|
  
my diagnosis is george ou syndrome...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
|

look at one of your nonsensical statements...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
|
 
Lets look at 5 or 6 or your silly statments....
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
  
ok you made me look... couldn't find even one eh? nt.
doctorSpoc | 09/25/06
|
  
Because your fanboism is embarrasing and undefensible, 'natch.
comp_indiana | 09/25/06
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Sure
Cayble | 09/25/06
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Incorrect
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Witholding judgement?
arkitty | 09/25/06
|
  
Different judgements
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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My opinion
arkitty | 09/25/06
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Apple's actions are irrelevant
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Accepted practice
arkitty | 09/25/06
|
     
Wrong tic. We know for an absolute fact about Apple already.
Cayble | 09/25/06
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arkitty--
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Cayble--again, you're assuming
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Well tic...the boat has sank ( IMHO)
Cayble | 09/25/06
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Another option
tic swayback | 09/25/06
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Talk about spin...
comp_indiana | 09/25/06
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Same old strawman
tic swayback | 09/25/06
|
Seems Apple gave full credit
Richard Flude | 09/24/06
|

Apple gave full credit to themselves when they only deserve partial
georgeou | 09/24/06
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Surely SecureWorks could answer your questions for you
Richard Flude | 09/24/06
|
  
Apple has alot better to do!!!!
Cayble | 09/25/06
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I don't need to ask SW because I already know
georgeou | 09/25/06
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Why ask questions that have been answered?
Duncon_Idaho | 09/25/06
|
  
Actually, that's precisely how they answered in the past
georgeou | 09/25/06
|
   
But you would
Rick_K | 09/26/06
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With your current crediablity
mrlinux | 09/25/06
|
found this interesting post over on Kreb's blog..
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
|

just in case your wondering...
doctorSpoc | 09/24/06
|

Uh you do know Centrino PROSet is not used in a Mac right?
georgeou | 09/25/06
|
 
george... you really need to read posts...
doctorSpoc | 09/25/06
|
 
here is why Elch is talking about Centrinos...
doctorSpoc | 09/25/06
|
  
Why not go right to the source?
arkitty | 09/25/06
|

Ineptitude demonstrated
arkitty | 09/25/06
|
 
are you guys completely and utterly daft???
doctorSpoc | 09/25/06
|
  
You truly are an idiot
arkitty | 09/25/06
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Please, dear God, let there be ONE problem with Macs!!!
comp_indiana | 09/24/06
|

Try and read the history first
TonyMcS | 09/24/06
|
 
You may be able to read but understandig is different
KiwiMonster | 09/24/06
|
  
"LOST? apparently not just a TV show.
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
   
Amusing
timyu | 09/25/06
|
   
Sigh
tic swayback | 09/25/06
|
    
Must be those...
Rick_K | 09/26/06
|
  
Total disrgard?
arkitty | 09/25/06
|
 
Your ignorance is telling...
comp_indiana | 09/25/06
|

Uhhh...beg yer pardun?
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
 
maybe you should first?
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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This is why I don't own a apple!
rupaa62 | 09/25/06
|

It would be interesting to see
zkiwi | 09/25/06
|

Impressive
Jim Hussey | 09/25/06
|

I don't follow you
jragosta | 09/26/06
|

If you say so
Chiatzu | 09/27/06
|
what if
piet jansen | 09/25/06
|
Interesting
Shelendrea | 09/25/06
|

Sort of
tic swayback | 09/25/06
|
 
Riddle me this then.....
Shelendrea | 09/25/06
|
  
That's one of the big questions
tic swayback | 09/25/06
|
   
You hit the nail on the head, tic
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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Problems Problems!
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
 
This is the post I was referring to.
timyu | 09/25/06
|
  
Thank you. Some answers
Cayble | 09/25/06
|
   
Motivations
tic swayback | 09/25/06
|
   
Response:
timyu | 09/25/06
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Give it up, George.
James T. Kirk | 09/25/06
|

Sure he could
jragosta | 09/26/06
|
Hacks researchers
comp_indiana | 09/25/06
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What really bugs me about this
Rick_K | 09/25/06
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For the record, George...
Moltz | 09/26/06
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You should know better....
jragosta | 09/26/06
|

The only person that label applies to is the blogger that wrote it
georgeou | 10/01/06
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